Also, 100mg of 6-APB just been bombed in a rizla. Am looking to compare with the similar dose from a week ago and have a similar amount saved for tomorrow to test alternate ROA. I actually like to have a wee bit of tolerance for ROA testing cos some of them can be a bit pokey. Interesting to see somebody has tried smoking it and found some effects - is on my list to try as I have also had some success smoking (well, vapourising) MDMA before. Success being relative to the reason it was taken that way - there are just a few times when that rather shitty ROA for MDMA has it's uses. But they are rare.
Best laid plans...
Hate underdosing so eventually caved in and tried out a coupla alternate ROA. I am a disgusting drugpig though so am not recommending anybody else do the same... chances are that some folks will though so...
Chased on tinfoil: Gives off vast amounts of smoke. Not harsh smoke at all and tastes very similar to vaped MDMA. Didn't weigh the dose but around 10-15mg taken in two or three big lungfuls. Definitely gave a noticeable boost even a good 4-5 hours after initial oral dose. Much shorter-acting, somewhat more intense in terms of visuals and stimulation, probably very wasteful and bad for your lungs. It works but, like with MDMA, will be of very limited use or interest to most, I suspect.
Then came the needles... One thing I really noticed was a major difficulty in finding any veins at all - kinda like you get several hours into an IV coke session when your blood is like treacle and your veins are all shell-shocked and gone into hiding. Get it with many stims but this seemed significantly more of an issue than almost any other substance I've shot. I do have shitty and half-dead veins at the best of times, mind.
Also noticed that it tended to want to coagulate instantly at the first hint of blood and block the pin even if you can find a damn vein. I struggled on cos I can't bear to stop cos I have no choice rather than decide to. Seems like it's maybe not ideal for IV use at all - certainly won't be in pellet form - but gave it a few goes anyway :D
25mg first up at around 4-5 hours after oral dosing. Was shot very, very slowly with long pauses to check for any sign of dodginess afoot. Only managed to get 1/2-2/3 of it in before it coagulated on me and became an immense pain in the arse to deal with. Nothing especially scary-feeling compared to IV use of somewhat similar drugs (MDMA and 2C-x particularly) - within the "norms" for that kinda thing but did notice my heart/chest felt slightly uncomfortable, heavy and overstimulated immediately after the drug hits the system. Doesn't seem to last and settles down pretty quick for me though. Again, not totally out of the ordinary for IV use of similar(ish) drugs but definitely worth thinking about.
Since then I've shot all of the rest in staggered doses cos it was a massive pain in the arse to do and kept wanting to add a bit more to make up for all the misfires and non-starters. Once I get the bit between me teeth I can get a tad piggish so probably not the wisest of moves. Feels fine though - initial rush (hard to quantify due to so many staggered shots) was pretty strong but similarish to IV MDMA. Psychedelic effects - visuals anyway - seemed to be a fair bit stronger dosed that way too. Feels
reasonably "safe" (by the standards of such things anyway) if approached with caution. The vanishing vein problems and slightly iffy chest stuff was somewhat worrisome though. But I do loves me a bit of rampant drugpiggery sometimes 8)
