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New RCs in the UK : Version 2 any vendor talk and this is getting closed

I'm picturing a Daily Mail journalist reading through this thread writing down furiously all these new drugs he has never heard of in order to get the scoop to his editor. lol
 
busby said:
I'm picturing a Daily Mail journalist reading through this thread writing down furiously all these new drugs he has never heard of in order to get the scoop to his editor. lol
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that would initiative. 8oWhy not instead relie on the kind "insiders" of this dark underworld who come clean and admit their sins. (advertising their latest batch of XYZ)
 
Shambles said:
^ =D



It is not yet available. Those sites are scams. Will be another week or two before the real stuff is available.
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I've was able to find bulk sellers about 2 weeks ago, they might not all be scamming.

I'm interested to hear what it's like, I imagine it's going to be quite popular yet haven't heard a single report on effects..
 
Does anyone have any idea of what kind of prices we'll be paying by the gram on 6 - APB and 5 - IAI when they finally launch?

(Please without quoting a certain vendor. Id just like a rough price from someone in the know or an estimate, i honestly have no idea and would like to find out! :D)
 
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Around £10 per 100mg pill or "pellet" for 6-APB, I believe. Depending on how many you buy, of course. Not sure about powder but don't think it's being sold by the gram - at least initially. No idea about 5-IAI yet.

x89: It's the complete absence of trip reports which is the most obvious sign that 5-IAI is not yet available - if it is, why has nobody tried it and reported on it yet?
 
I just got up early/didn't sleep.

Wandered into the local corner shop and couldn't help but do a double take:
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I'm sorry mate but no, this is a link to the Cambridge Evening News, it is by no rea
New ‘legal high’ to hit city streets
Raymond Brown
New legal highs called 6-APB and ‘woof woof’ could be about to hit Cambridge’s streets, the News can reveal.

City firm is already offering MDAI, also know as ‘woof woof’, on its website and the company claims 6-APB, is “coming soon”.

previously sold mephedrone, or ‘miaow miaow’, which is now a Class B drug, but withdrew the product after publicity in the News.

This week the Home Office warned about the dangers of so-called ‘legal highs’.
The Home Office said ‘legal highs’ are substances which produce the same or similar effects to drugs such as cocaine and Ecstasy, but are not controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act.

However, it is considered illegal under current legislation to sell, supply or advertise the products for “human consumption”, the Home Office said.

To get round this, sellers refer to them as research chemicals, plant food, bath crystals or pond cleaner.

Minister for crime prevention, James Brokenshire, said: “We are going to change our drug laws so we can respond quickly to emerging substances by introducing a temporary ban while we seek full scientific advice.”

The ************** website, which was taken down after the owners agreed to stop selling mephedrone, is back up and running.

It now states: “This is an online store that ********* ********* products for your bubble bath.

“Please note that the chemicals sold here are ****************!”

It goes on to say it offers a “24/7 FREE delivery ************** area”.

The company currently offers MDAI for £20 a gram and says it has had “very good feedback”.

It says that 6-APB will be available for sale soon.

Cllr Geoffrey Heathcock, Lib Dem spokesman for health on Cambridgeshire County Council, is furious at the latest move by the company.

He said: “I am absolutely disgusted that this company can be involved in making money from these drugs. I urge their board to look at the ethics of this.”

The company was unavailable for comment.
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Bollocks. Woof woof? Fucking mate up and 6-APB to boot.


I support the majority of what the more responsible vendors do, but advertising shit that isn't yet on the market yet, and clearly don't have it does give El Gov't an excuse to add it to the roster of "Trial drugs"

Nice how we don't even pass laws to ban substances now.
 
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Shambles said:
Around £10 per 100mg pill or "pellet" for 6-APB, I believe. Depending on how many you buy, of course. Not sure about powder but don't think it's being sold by the gram - at least initially. No idea about 5-IAI yet.

x89: It's the complete absence of trip reports which is the most obvious sign that 5-IAI is not yet available - if it is, why has nobody tried it and reported on it yet?
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6-APB should go for 19 quid for a gram, I spoke with two reliable vendors who I know aren't scammers and they both confirmed the price for the gram should be less than 20 quid. Neither of them talked about pills yet, they both said they'll stock powder.

Hope this is not vendors talk, I mean I'm not posting names just things I was told.
 
Just seen some asshole vendor (kind of previous mentioned) selling "magic/flake" - why not just fucking take it to the next step and tell people to create home made shit cocaine / white powders that you can sell to unknowledgeable drug users for poisoning purposes, CUNTS!
 
If 6-APB goes for a tenner a pill it simply won 't sell big volumes, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot. We all know that it will be banned sooner or later and the vendors need to make as much money as possible in a relatively short space of time.

I personally wouldn't buy it in pill form anyways. Most people would laugh if you told them you paid a tenner for a pill even if the experience was better than a tenners worth of pips.
 
I believe the high price (if indeed it is priced at that level when it finally lands) will only be for the early batches due to scarcity and then the price will drop once they have more stock. It'll be fairly rare at first and rare means expensive for anything. One 100mg pill would do most people for the whole night and with decent MDMA pills going for around a tenner each in many places I actually don't think it's such a bad deal. The price will inevitably drop soon enough though :)

If you think back a bit, meph was £20+ per gram at first, "Ecstasy" was £20 per pill at first, etc. Just the way things are with any new drug is all.
 
Take into account development costs, rarity value, the (limited) safety testing that was done, etc. Can't blame them for wanting to make a few quid on their investment but ultimately they will have to sell it for whatever people are prepared to pay for it or they get nowt. WIll balance itself out soon enough, for sure :)

And to use the meph example again, costs pennies per gram so even at the end when it was dirt cheap the profit margins were insane. Not like there is no precedent set for rampant profiteering :\
 
It's not illegal so there's no reason for such a high price and no reason to put it in pellets to drive the price up even more. All the guy has done is asked for a custom synthesis of some chemical he saw on wikipedia then is selling it, there's nothing else to it. Least mephedrone you actually got it in crystal/powder and the price was fairly reasonable. I don't think it even counts as rare i see quite a few labs starting to list it now, so hopefully someone who isn't a cunt starts selling it instead.

This is the definite example of a vendor that is bad for the RC scene in general yet you seem to be making justifications for buying this stuff, which i don't get considering the amount of moaning about vendors on here.
 
There was no existing synthesis for 6-APB before they started working on the development - it's brand new. The amount of bitching about a price that will inevitably drop pretty damn quick is a bit much - it's the only legal drug that's come along that can hold it's own against the illegals. I would far rather spend a few extra quid on something genuinely worth taking than the toxic crap shitty legals that we've been subjected to so far. Let 'em make a few quid off the back of novelty value in the short term or wait until the price drops same as with anything else.
 
discopupils said:
4-fa really potentiates the effects of methylone doesn't it? I was doing bombs of just 160-180mg methylone whilst on 4-fa and was still incomprehensibly fucked.
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Definately. Probably going to try this combo again soon but take the m1 within 1-2 hours of the 4-FA.

Shambles said:
4-FMA, perhaps? There are a few threads on it dotted about the place but have not come across the stuff myself yet.
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Yeah, thats the one. I can get hold of it soon but is it worth it? Anyone know how it compares to 4-FA?
 
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