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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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^Yeah, just don't specifically mention the source. It is certainly difficult to draw a line where harm reduction ends and sourcing starts, so just don't mention sources specifically or directly hint at the name of the source. Saying that a popular vendor has whatever cut in it is certainly helpful for harm reduction, though.
 
I gotta admit, i'm not the best as self control, especially with benzos. Cant hurt to buy 100mg & 50ml propylene glycol and stash it at a mates for when really needed though =D
 
dude stay away from this shit if you overdo it with benzos. its an ER trip in a bottle, once youve made a 1000mg doses of liquid just sitting there and it takes 30 mins to hit you. im fucking serious. its not about the eyeballing it. i did liquid measurments and still went retarded and almost lost my job and my girl because of it. the fuck. wish i could just make like tiny batches of it and save the powder.........anyway you have 39999999999 doses of anything sitting around it gets hectic if you are an addict like me.
 
looks like the legit supplier of phen only has 10 2g samples left. this is the end. no one is gonna use the other dude without getting so upset that they have baking soda. there is one left but expensive.......maybe he will be back on the map.
 
I don't find phenazepam to be stronger than diazepam.

1-2mg of phenaz I find is equal to 5mg of diaz.
 
^ so phenazepam is 2.5-5x as potent mg:mg as diazepam but its *not* stronger?

Potency per mg is how strength is determined.
 
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Came2theLeft I am by no means a chemist/pharmacist but during my personal experiments using phenazepam I've noticed 1-2mg of phenaz gives me the same anti-anxiety effects I'd get off 5mg diaz.


KEEP IN MIND I HAVE A FAIR TOLERANCE TO BENZOS SO NEWBS DO NOT GO ATTEMPTING THIS JUST BECAUSE I DID

START WITH A 0.5mg DOSE AND WORK YOUR WAY UP - PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THIS DRUG AND DO NOT EYEBALL DOSES

GET YOURSELF SOME PROPYLENE GLYCOL AND DISSOLVE FOR A RATIO OF 1MG/1ML OR 2MG/1ML - PLEASE - SAFETY FIRST



vedwit said:
I finaly got round to trying this. My benzo tolerance is high, I have taken clonazepam every day for around 3 years and use other benzos reguarly (daily).

1.5mg was not strong enough for me, the effects were nice enough and long lasting but next time I will try 4mg.

I think it is worth pointing out again that I have a high benzo tolerance, 1.5 of this felt as strong as 1.5 - 2mg of alprazolam or 20 - 25mg diazepam. It felt like a much longer lasting xanax to me really.
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I agree with on the longer-lasting xanax feeling, with added sedation.

No real euphoria really at all. Unless you dose 20mg of the shit (phenaz)

fluxy said:
I had an idea to work out a reasonably safe way to make accurate measurements of this compound.

1) meausure with 0.01 scales 100mg.

2) die with a very potent die, for example, a blue food colouring.

3) let it dry out thouroughly

4) Add 100grams of glucose or lactose, and stir and stir, possibly mechanically until the colour is uniform throughout, taking care to not allow any moisture to wet the product.

5) keep stirring until there are no lumps, and you are happy that there is even distribution of the substance. (the die should help indicate this, you might have to try different dies powerful enough to turn the rest of the glucose/ lactose powder at least a tinge of the original colour.


Dos this seem plausible? Have i missed anything obvious here?

The result would be a 1gram= 1mg powder. pretty easy to dose there i think.

Thanks for your time and comments
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NO - get some propylene glycol and dissolve 1mg/1ml or 2mg/1ml

rickolasnice said:
How would phenazepam be for anxiety? I'm guessin good :P

How long does it last?
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This drug works great for anti-anxiety. That's about it really. With added sedation.

It lasts a while. The initial effects are only a few hours but with a half-life of 60-200 hours you should be anxiety free for days post-dosing.

blazelate said:
Is there any sort of buzz with phenazepam? I've taken one mg last night and just have a little antianxiety but that all.
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No buzz. It's an anti-anxiety benzo. Try 10mg if you want a buzz but be prepared to be heavily sedated for hours.


KEEP IN MIND I HAVE A FAIR TOLERANCE TO BENZOS SO NEWBS DO NOT GO ATTEMPTING THIS JUST BECAUSE I DID

START WITH A 0.5mg DOSE AND WORK YOUR WAY UP - PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THIS DRUG AND DO NOT EYEBALL DOSES

GET YOURSELF SOME PROPYLENE GLYCOL AND DISSOLVE FOR A RATIO OF 1MG/1ML OR 2MG/1ML - PLEASE - SAFETY FIRST


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Came2theLeft I am by no means a chemist/pharmacist but during my personal experiments using phenazepam I've noticed 1-2mg of phenaz gives me the same anti-anxiety effects I'd get off 5mg diaz.
 
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yeah, i guess i was looking for that benzo buzz and kept redosing and went too far. i wasnt eyeballing. when i came back from the hospital i found the container i dumped and just added h20 shook and drank, it felt nice! so i dont know, my experiement went horribly wrong but i dont want a benzo addiction and lexapro works for my anxiety.

pot is kind of fun recreationally but tranqs still are my DOC. so its hard being totally sober and smoking pot from time to time but not enjoying it due to the paranoia of my eyes getting red. i put sooooo many eye drops in last night and it didnt do anything. i hate that. whatever. at least im not playing with C and D. *pats homey on back*

Still working on cutting out IVing my bupe though. once the pap goes through i should have no reason to. i justify it as economical right now but i know im just addicted to the needle and some false hope that ill feel something akin to a rush that im used to using that utensil. i would love to slam some coke right now and come down with bupe and benzos. fuck it though.
 
Sorry, self-aware, I was just being a smartass.

I understand what you're saying, though. 1-2mg of phenazepam are equipotent in effect to ~5mg diazepam, right?
 
We're chilled Cane2theLeft :) I think I completely misunderstood you.

But now you got it bra' :D


What I should've posted above is:

1-2mg phenaz is equal in effects to 5mg diaz, not potency IMO.

We cool?
 
Self-Aware said:
No buzz. It's an anti-anxiety benzo. Try 10mg if you want a buzz but be prepared to be heavily sedated for hours.
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If you consider benzos to give a buzz, then certainly this can give one. It is definitely a powerful intoxicant that had potential to relax the user.

Your advice of 10mg worries me. This is way too much for most people, just like 5mg alprazolam (roughly an equipotent dose) would be. I recommend 1.5-2mg as a good starting point for (pure) phenazepam, to equal around 0.75 - 1mg alprazolam.
 
Wow I have not posted in a while, I think I developed a tolerence of somekind as some of my anxiety symptoms like avoiding leaving the house and not talking to random strangers came back (tho that's probably a good one, strangers think you're mad when you speak to them.

Been dosing everyday which I discovered is not necessary as I found the next 2 days I felt totally fine just like I'd dosed. But the habit is there and hard to break.

And sometimes bad/annoying things happen and I take a dose, not that it chears me up but that's an old poppy tea habit when that would work.

Not done anything silly, though it's not as stealth as I thought, I thought it was just at night when I was getting sleepy (it makes me very sleepy at night, a first for this night owl) but a friend said I slur my words and my body language is different. So many I should cut back to one every 2 days or something. I need this until September when I move (god I need it to help me move) and then do you think I could get a UK doctor to help me taper off because I'm going to uni (mature student ftw!) and there's no way I can study under this. A uni doctor might be more approachable.

I've taken quite a lot today, I don't know why I think I like the sleepy feeling. Benzos have never been recreational but I think I have a habit of "if there's a drug there, take it" I should get some weed for that or something!

Some of you have mentioned getting bad sleep off this, if I actually make it to bed and don't fall asleep on the sofa I wake up feeling like I've had the bed sleep in the world. But then I've always naturally had bad sleep, maybe it's fixing it!

Anyone experienced any problems in the bedroom? Like not being able to start what you finish? Or even growing a small crop this year? If I had someone to use it on they may see it as an advantage but I like a quick and go in the mornings and am having to give that up.
 
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^It sounds like your dose may be too high... All of what you are describing is side effects that can probably be avoided with smaller doses. You'll have to taper off of this sooner or later, so I recommend dropping your dose a good bit so that your withdrawal isn't so difficult. The higher the dose and the longer the addiction, the more difficult your withdrawal will be. Be careful with your dosing; rebound anxiety can get really debilitating for many people who use benzos, especially those who take them in large or prolonged doses.
 
giving other people samples

i had this friend, she is well into k and asked if i could get her some but i cant so i said if you just want something that isnt alcohol i'll bring you something else. i brought her some phenazepam. i had it diluted in pg and gave her a glass vial and a syringe to measure. i told her exactly how much a dose was. she took what would have been 1mg and felt nothing. then her mum came home and brought her some k which she had previously banned her from (her mum tolerates her use of k).

my friend got through near 1g of k that night, i was also doing some and we were watching tv. she said to me "are you sure this stuff is real its doing nothing" and i saw her increase her dose at least once but not by how much. i told her it takes a while to take effect, its not some big rush. i take it for anxiety but she said she was hoping it'd help her sleep, which she did in the ened. i needed to go home, i shook her a few times and called her name but she acted like one of those angry sleepers and just shouted at me so I supposed she was fine. i texted her on the way home saying i'd gone and hope everything was okay.

i called her early the next morning, the phone line sounded mangled but she was awake and i could hear words.

then the next thing i know a few nights later her mum is ringing me ripping me a new arsehole about giving this stuff to her her and do i even know what it is and what it does. apparently she took shitloads and was in a comatose state for a few days and could have been "raped and murdered" i asked how this could have happened if she'd been in the house the whole time. but i tried my best to explain to the mum that she takes k, she's been part of the drug scene since she was 13 and best of all i gave her all the advice she needed and she ignored it. but i was just told that there were people who wanted to tear me limb from limb right now and i better stay away from her.

i also got a short facebook message from her sister also telling me to stay away from her or there will be "trouble" and i better not ignore this message. i did ignore it. there's no point having a war on facebook with someone i've never met and is an alleged cokehead.

i dont think i did anything wrong but wanted to check here. i'm posting anon incase anyone they know could use my user name to track me down.

this post is best i think for the phenazepam thread in the other drugs forum:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=321757

unless theres a 'dont give drugs to friends not matter how experienced they are' thread somewhere.
 
I'll go back to smaller doses, I don't experience any withdrawal when I do.
 
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