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(M-Butylone/100 mg) New experience: A worthy new RC

Hi guys,

I've been following the forum for a while now, mainly interested in the 4-MMC threads, I suppose you could call me one of 'meph kids' as the only drugs iv dabbled with is cannabis, coke and the occasional 'E' until the meph craze started.

Any way like a lot of other people im still trying to find the legal alternative to the recently banned 4-MMC and from what iv researched M-Butylone has had the best reports, So I thought i'd share my experience with M-Butylone.

Height/Weight: 5ft 11" / 11st
Previous Experiences: Cannabis, XTC, Cocaine, Mephedrone
Dosage: Approx 750mg over 8 hours - Snorted
Setting: On my own, in my room on Facebook and listening to some music
Duration of effects: 6 hours in total
Main Effects: Slight light headedness, big heart rate increase.
Side effects: Slight nausea, unable to sleep because of rapid heart rate. There was deffinatly appetite suppression, I wasted a whole Sunday roast.
Addictive qualities/abuse potential: Even though the effects were not what I wanted, I still found myself redosing, this only resulted in me feeling worse than I actually did.
Overall Rating Of Experience: I really DID NOT enjoy this new RC, all it did for me was increase my heart rate, it made me feel really on edge, it can be in now way compared to Mephedrone (As Butylone was). I urge people not to redose when the effects you are after do not come, this makes your feelings of anxiety worse. I also noticed I started sweating alot under my arms and extremities such as my hands and feet switched between hot and sweaty to cold and clammy.

Hope that was ok for my first post, if you would like any more information on my experience please let me know.

**EDIT

I forgot to include that there was zero pupil dilation, plus nearly 24hours on, my heart rate is not 100% normal. I'm actually aware of it more than I'd like to be, this is one of the reasons for being kept awake, you seem to be listening to your heart and when you hear it beat irregularly it makes you a bit more worried.

I acquired 3g sample for free, I will not be purchasing M-Butylone ever.
 
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Agreed, what has happened to the legals scene in Bernard Mannings own words "It's a fucking disgrace".

I'm going to stick to my illegals from now on. I know what mdma smells and tastes like and i know if i go to a club i can at least get decent stuff and not the pips that were about for the last few years.

After what I've discovered about the RC scene in only the last few months, I wouldnt ever buy a powder from anyone I didnt trust implicitly & certainly not from ANYONE in a club, festi or gig, ever...

The single most powerful & unpleasant drugs experience I ever had was after being sedated with Ketamine for a week in ICU after a serious asthma attack. I contracted Streptococcul Pneumonia from an inadquately cleaned intubator & spent a week unconcious in ICU fighting the illness. Woke up tripping my nuts off &, whilst trying to escape the hospital Lol I fought 5 orderlys & a nurse without a single muscle in my body (my body had used my muscles to fight the pnuemonia). I hallucinated FULLY for three days without sleeping despite 60mg's Valium the first night. 2.5mgs will help me sleep these days. I continued to trip for weeks, & even after leaving hospital a few weeks later was still hallucinating at home! Took 3 months to get my head straight & about 6 months to regain my strength...

So, just to re-cap... I've taken alot of recreational shit in my time, have always been very careful, testing things & reading up fully before trying inactive amounts & gradually building up when using anything new. I've never come close to freaking out the way I did from a hospital administered hallucinogenic sedation!

Anyway, point being, dont matter how careful you are, drugs is dodgy! Lol
 
The first time I tried the M-Butylone thing I thought oh yeah, this is more like it!That was a gram over 24 hrs. Second time I tried it I ached for several days and had a tightness in my chest. That too was a gram over 24 hrs. To be fair, the effects were reminiscent of Butylone, but I found that fairly dysphoric and compulsive. This RC actually works, unlike some of them, it's just not a terribly pleasant effect. And I want to know what this toxin actually is.
 
After what I've discovered about the RC scene in only the last few months, I wouldnt ever buy a powder from anyone I didnt trust implicitly & certainly not from ANYONE in a club, festi or gig, ever...

The single most powerful & unpleasant drugs experience I ever had was after being sedated with Ketamine for a week in ICU after a serious asthma attack. I contracted Streptococcul Pneumonia from an inadquately cleaned intubator & spent a week unconcious in ICU fighting the illness. Woke up tripping my nuts off &, whilst trying to escape the hospital Lol I fought 5 orderlys & a nurse without a single muscle in my body (my body had used my muscles to fight the pnuemonia). I hallucinated FULLY for three days without sleeping despite 60mg's Valium the first night. 2.5mgs will help me sleep these days. I continued to trip for weeks, & even after leaving hospital a few weeks later was still hallucinating at home! Took 3 months to get my head straight & about 6 months to regain my strength...

So, just to re-cap... I've taken alot of recreational shit in my time, have always been very careful, testing things & reading up fully before trying inactive amounts & gradually building up when using anything new. I've never come close to freaking out the way I did from a hospital administered hallucinogenic sedation!

Anyway, point being, dont matter how careful you are, drugs is dodgy! Lol

well, pills get tested so knowing what is legitimate mdma and what isn't can be learnt very easily.

with powders the four main ones i would come across - meph, coke, ket & speed are all recognisable by taste or smell and appearance to me and i would only buy from people i trust and not the equivalent of an amsterdam street vendor.

imo much safer than some of these unknown chemicals there are now.

with mdma crystal there's no mistaking it for me. i've been offered stuff before that was piperazines very easy to distinguish between the taste and smell of the two chemicals so no worries there.

I guess if you're not experienced with those substances or are seven sheets to the wind on a night out you'd likely end up buying some crap and regretting it later.

i've had enough mix ups with bags of coke and ket too after getting drunk. :!
 
Honestly, if they cant or wont tell you what the compound is, dont give them the business... guess what, they dont even know themselves.
 
I'm not a vendor either, and I enjoyed this chemical. And I agree with ugh1979 - whenever you take a chemical you take a risk. If you buy MDMA round the back of a club at 2am, do you whizz it through your marquis reagents and spectrum analyser before you pop the fucker? Perhaps the dealer has phenazepam in his other back pocket and mixed up the bags? Rail a 200mg line and you're pushing up the daisies.

It's all about minimising risk, and the fact that this is being sold openly on the internet by -- in this case -- a vendor who is as reputable as can be expected and has history of not shafting their customers is one plus point. It's not in their interests to sell something with a risk of inducing immediate death. Of course, the long-term effects aren't known. But did that stop you taking mephedrone? Or eating GM butter?

Another way to reduce risk is to work up slowly, from 1mg (in case it WAS phenazepam!) to 10, to 50, and wait and monitor. You don't know what it is, so start slow and monitor your reaction.

Of course, there's a chance that you might die. But if you don't like that risk then don't take anything! And don't buy a motorbike. Or go parachuting. (Both of which, to be fair, SHIT on m-butylone!)

The "Darwinism at work" sound bite that people throw around winds me up a bit. It's our desperate, natural curiousity and measured risk-taking that have advanced knowledge and society. It's when it's combined with "stupidity", that it's hopefully to be excluded from the gene pool.
 
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I found this about as good as Mephedrone in terms of the high but longer lasting and with less urge to redose so overall better.


8/10 for me, not bad, it's one of the better legals I have done, I was boosting it with doses of GBL throughout though it should be pointed out, but still.
 
Seriously ?! I found it nothing like mephedrone in terms of effects etc....

Very little euphoria, very strange edge to it in fact , only thing useful about it was it kept me wide awake an I can drink coffee for that !

Seejay
I found this about as good as Mephedrone in terms of the high but longer lasting and with less urge to redose so overall better.


8/10 for me, not bad, it's one of the better legals I have done, I was boosting it with doses of GBL throughout though it should be pointed out, but still.
 
Seriously ?! I found it nothing like mephedrone in terms of effects etc....

Very little euphoria, very strange edge to it in fact , only thing useful about it was it kept me wide awake an I can drink coffee for that !

Seejay

Straight up, infact I'd go as far as to say I found it almost identical, except it lasted longer and wasn't quite so fiendish, good friend of mine also agreed with my view, so I'm surprised to read the negative views of this RC, I quite liked it and will defo do it again.
 
I agree I would say its 90% as good as Mephedrone and agree as well not quite as Fiendish, it seems that the vendor which is the only one I can find (UK) is no longer shipping?? Any ideas on possible legality issues or insider knowledge?
 
Personally I would say it was only 50% as good as meph and the side effects were much nastier IMO. Yet it was the best of the available RCs at the time, which I think says it all. During the high I thought I would definately take it again, but during the come down and even a few days later I vowed it wasnt worth it.
 
To be fair I have warned about my heavy useage of this, I did have a strange heart rhythm and pains for a couple of days
 
It's probly so different in fx from person to person cuz there is no such thing as m-butylone, it's a made up ficticious name for some mystery cathinone, so 1 person might get butylone the other might get Ecat, the other might get whatever... proly whatever was in surplus at that moment. On the plus side it can never b outlawed lol
 
It's probly so different in fx from person to person cuz there is no such thing as m-butylone, it's a made up ficticious name for some mystery cathinone, so 1 person might get butylone the other might get Ecat, the other might get whatever... proly whatever was in surplus at that moment. On the plus side it can never b outlawed lol

1-(benzo[d][1,3]dioxol-5-yl)-2-(dimethylamino)butan-1-one

Does this make any sense? Unfortunately I don't have the chemistry knowledge to tell if this is bogus, anybody?

Edit: Product completely worthless, stay away, bloody awful, I was drunk when I ordered it, never would under normal circumstances.

It's much worst than butylone, just edgy useless stimulation, feels quite taxing on the old ticker as well.
 
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how you would compare it with mephedrone?

it's definitely weaker than meph...but it's effects are pretty much the same... i guess m-Butylone is still great for partying...as i said before: pretty similar to 4-FMC but gentler to the body

any kind of hornyness?

litte hornyness...not as much as with mpdv or ethcathinone...but still present...i enjoyed a couple of solo's throughout the evening ;) i was able to perform and had absolutely no issues regarding the well-known stimulant bloodvessel constriction and its nasty effects on the *hardware* ;)
 
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