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Dilaudid-(hydromorphone)

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What is the best way to get off them? I tryed sleeping pills for 5 day's but i get the whole body tingles, for most of the day. It seems the only thing that will stop the tingles is Rum. But i can't go from yellows to caption dark every night. O............and i take about 20mg a day
 
Oh fuck sorry. I just glanced at your post and thought get off was like get off! man. Then I saw the other reply and realized I replied to you wanting to quit with how to get more addicted. Damn I'm a cunt.

Yeah. he is right, taper off, 2-4mg every day or two maybe a bit wider if you've been on em a while. tapers are the tried and true method. Last bit sucks some bit that's life. I know you were saying you can't get em but benzos cool it out esp at the end if it's rocky. but don't take a lot, just enough to even yourself out some.

Most of the biggest problems dropping opiates are in the head. don't let it drag on you, don't let it make you feel beaten, take a little flu it ain't no thing. Have a good attitude like that and it helps a ton imo. but you have to taper em, don't just drop it all it makes you feel like they have you.

Also not everyone feels this way, but for me some stims during light wds (mostly to battle the depression, wanna backslide thing) works like a charm. if i'm not actually sick i pretty much forget them at least as long as i'm amped. That may not really be that suggested of a harm prevention method, but shit i have kicked so many times, probably more days than you've used :D If you know you can beat them (and taper) it's pretty easy, at least for me. a little pain ain't no thing right?
 
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I would taper but a little slower than 2-4mg a day...I would decrease by like 2mg no earlier than every other day.
 
Yep, you're going to have to taper. W/d'ing from dilaudid is a bitch. It hits you QUICK and HARD. Just do the best you can and hang in there. Take ibuprofen and immodium in the meantime. Drink lots of water, take showers for sweats.

-good luck :S
 
you could also maybe get some kratom or poppy pods....I seee your in canada,you could go buy codeine with APAP and caffeine over the counter.they it wont get ya high but it will help you sleep and what not...nothin worse then long sleepless nights while tryin to kick.

Just do a CWE on those codeine pills,then run through a brita filter to remove the caffeine...I dont know if it removes some codeine,so I always do an extraction on 1600 mg's of codeine and take it all,in case some is lost in the process.

you could also try to find tylenol 3's and use those since there is no caffeine.maybe even percocets and taper with those.do you IV the dilaudid?if so you're in for a rough ride man,and I would advise switching to a lighter opiate and/or oral administration of the drugs.

Is methadone and bupe totally out of the question for you?
 
^ imo, there's really no point or use in switching one opiate for another for the tapering process- essentially it's all the same.
 
hellocatastrophe said:
^ imo, there's really no point or use in switching one opiate for another for the tapering process- essentially it's all the same.
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This is not the case at all. It's not even remotely possible to taper with street dope, that would be plain crazy, not impossible, but crazy. No dope from different batches is gonna be the same.
So, it is very important and way more controlled to switch to a fixed dose, preferably oral, or a patch, to taper, rather than get a weak batch one day and cringe.

The more dependent you are, the smaller (and smaller) chance you have of quitting cold turkey.

Tapering is the only way to go.

The key is to get a replacement drug of a longer duration to keep withdrawals at bay. Then going lower (and lower) till you have fully stepped down.

This is much the same with nicotine, the mind and body will go bonkers without a steady flow of your DOC.
 
What I also had in mind is that taking these opiates would be considerably less potent then Hydromorphone,making the end withdrawal not as bad.it might also help the temptation to abuse them since they aren't as desirable or fun to abuse.
 
OntarioGuy said:
What I also had in mind is that taking these opiates would be considerably less potent then Hydromorphone,making the end withdrawal not as bad.it might also help the temptation to abuse them since they aren't as desirable or fun to abuse.
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Another boo-boo in your process...

You will have the temptation to abuse any opiate in sight, so help you god.
All you will want to do is end the agony as short and as fast as possible.

Methadone and Buprenorphine are abusable as well, don't let your conscious fool you.
 
^Well for me,if using codeine,I dont really take more then 800 milligrams or so as that seems to be my ceiling dose.(I know people say 400,but I swear I feel a big difference if I double that).So I dont even want to abuse it,it seems pointless.I know Im not gonna get high,or even that much relief....honestly I mostly use codeine to take the edge off enough to get out of bed and out of the house to find stronger IV'able opiates/opioids.
 
Follow a taper plan. The longer and slower the plan, the better chance of it being successful.
 
Teper taper taper then lot's of lopermide, gatorade, soup and other essentials. Dilaudid withdrawal hit's really fast especially if your IVing it and id get sick within 6-8 hours of my last shot. I mean you go from fine to sick as a dog in a hour once it starts to hit unlike morphine or oxycodone where i found the withdrawals not to hit nearly as fast.

On the good side the withdrawals go away pretty fast compared to morphine. As opposed to being sick as a dog from a week to up to 2 weeks you should be okay in about 5 days more or less.

Ah i used to love those fucking dilly 4's. I often wonder how many thousand of d 4's did i inject into my arms.
 
I agree with the slow taper plan - whomever suggested 2-4mg a day is nuts, you might as well go cold turkey.

If you've been on them a long time (like 6 months +) and you have access to the pills, I'd say go as slow as possible.

I once did a taper where I dropped 2mg a WEEK. Going that slow makes it easy physically, and psychologically it helped since I was sort of happy that my taper plan was so slow I knew I still had plenty of pills ahead of me while I was "quitting."

I almost finished my taper and quit - then I got into a car accident, which made my injury much worse, which required me to keep taking then pain pills.

A very bittersweet momemt!
 
Thank's guy's for all the info, but it's a little more Complicated then just tapering down over time.

First..........it's been 2 year's on this stuff and only takes about 3 hours for the SICK to really hit me hard (inless for sleep).

Second.............I don't IV them cause needles gave me the worst anxiety i ever had. I pass out every time I gave blood, So i just can't come around to the needle's. I do tho Snort the pill's, I have for almost a year and a half.


And Third and Finally........... .............. I have AS (Ankylosing spondylitis). Now some of you have never heard of it before, So take a minute and type it in to Wikipedia and see for yourself. It's just chronic pain and stiffness all the time. They found it 6 month's ago and when my doctor found out (he seen the Bamboo Spine on a back X-ray), he just wrote it down on the back of his business card and told me to Google it, then he sent me on my way with nothing. Before me, he never even heard of it before, I've been to see five other doctor's sence him and not one of them have giving me anything for my PAIN. So if i stopped taking them (D-4'S) I couldn't even get out of bed in the morning, or work, or nothing for that matter. So i really don't know what the Fuck to do at this point.


So.........................Thx for reading and take care eveyone!
 
Maybe you should get the opinion of a Doctor. Sounds like you are torn between decisions and won't really listen to anyone anyway. You seem pretty attached to the opiates w/o much intention of getting off, as you seemed to upon first post.

What do you REALLY want? I've got some pretty painful knee issues - arthritis,etc - and take oxy for 'pain management' and find that after about 6 months of that, the pain is worse. Why do I think this is? I think it's because OF the pain meds. When I'm in (the mildest of) w/d's the pain seems so much worse. What am I getting at? - what do YOU think ? ;)

Just try to really limit your D use. Maybe get a weaker opiate or try something completely new. Does physical therapy work at ALL for you? Or swimming?
 
Well in that case you should maybe get a prescription to help your pain and do your very fucking best not to abuse them. Dilaudid is way too short acting for chronic pain so longer acting pain meds such as MScontin, oxycontin or even methadone would be better. It would help the withdrawals as well as the pain.

Plus dilaudid is so compulsive it's nearly impossible not to abuse the stuff. Id go through a whole months script in a week or so. Taking them right along with the morphine or fentanyl i had. So yeah i found them to be a good bit more addictive then other opiates.
 
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