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grumpycakes

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Here's a fun question for you guys:

My boyfriend is trying to look for ways to help boost his immunity before an event next weekend. Pretty much anytime he takes MDMA at one of these events, he ends up sick afterwards; sometimes just cold-like symptoms (sniffles, slight headache, etc.) but other times a little bit more severe (more fluish symptoms). And this isn't just the normal comedown stuff (depression, mopeyness, laziness, etc.), he really does just get physically sick.

He is almost at the point where he doesn't want to to take MDMA anymore not because he doesn't like the effects, but because he doesn't like getting sick every time.

*Are there any suggestions you guys have in order to avoid getting sick after taking MDMA?*

I'm loading him up on vitamin C (an effective immunity booster), but what else should he try? I don't want this to be the last time he rolls because he got sick again, but we'll see.

And who knows, maybe this is just his unfortunate method of coming down. I'm just grateful I get the usual stuff. Any and all help is appreciated!
 
Thats pretty weird. I can understand that your body can get a little run down from lack of sleep and that may make you slightly more susceptible to picking up a bug but I dont think it would happen every time.
Is he a generally weak and sickly person? If so then maybe drugs are not for him. Or alternately, maybe he talks himself into being sick.

Anyways the best way to fight disease is plenty of good food sleep and exercise.
 
Testing is definitely always a good idea, but MDMA (and anything that evokes a stress response by releasing norepinephrine) is going to suppress your immune system somewhat. Vitamin C is a great idea (probably somewhere in the range of 1g), which you might want to combine with vitamin E, and ideally selenium as well. Zinc is also a great supplement to help boost the immune system.

Finally, if he does get sick, Echinacea tea does wonders for recovery. A cup or two a day will have him feeling better in no time. :)
 
I think I understand what you are talking about.
I get that because my serotonin is out of whack, which leads me to overheat sometimes for a few seconds (which kind of mimics a fever for a short while).

I don't think I ever got a headache or sniffles during recovery ( of course some mornings after I felt like my brain had been ran over with a truck ), just normal feeling like shit


Of course when you roll usually you are at an event with lots of other people, and stuff like ecstasy makes you want to be in contact with more people and be way closer to people then normal, exposing you to more germs and stuff since you are in close contact with lots of strangers
 
Thanks for the suggestions, and yes, I agree it is weird. He normally isn't a sick person, but he does seem to have a weaker immune system then myself.

And its only with MDMA; he can partake in other drugs just fine.

However again I thank you for all of your suggestions and I will be sure to pass this information along. If anyone else can think of anything to help, that would be amazing. Thank you!
 
how about Air Borne isnt that supposed to prevent you from getting sick? Its probably worth a shot.
 
It can not be overstated that nutrition & diet along with healthy doses of sleep and exercise are the keys to not getting sick. Sure, you can attempt to boost your immune system with this supplement or that raw vitamin, but if you don't have a good foundation to begin with you don't stand a chance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system#Nutrition_and_diet
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080902075211.htm

Aside from that, I would encourage him to take a look at his behaviors when on the drug.

- Does he drink enough water?
- When he does, is he sharing a water bottle with others who potentially carry illnesses?
- Does he go a long time between meals?
- Does he smoke or combine MDMA with other drugs or alcohol?

Any one of these behaviors could contribute to his getting sick while his immune system is weakened by MDMA.
 
I have the same problem as your boyfriend, every time I roll I get sick. Granted, it probably doesn't help that most of the time I'm rolling I'm packed in a room with hundreds or thousands of other people, chainsmoking, share my water bottle with my friends and anyone who asks for a sip, eating poorly, and not sleeping much. Next time I'll be sure to load up on some vitamin C though and hopefully that helps out a bit.
 
johnnyfake said:
It can not be overstated that nutrition & diet along with healthy doses of sleep and exercise are the keys to not getting sick. Sure, you can attempt to boost your immune system with this supplement or that raw vitamin, but if you don't have a good foundation to begin with you don't stand a chance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system#Nutrition_and_diet
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080902075211.htm

Aside from that, I would encourage him to take a look at his behaviors when on the drug.

- Does he drink enough water?
- When he does, is he sharing a water bottle with others who potentially carry illnesses?
- Does he go a long time between meals?
- Does he smoke or combine MDMA with other drugs or alcohol?

Any one of these behaviors could contribute to his getting sick while his immune system is weakened by MDMA.
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Great post. Really well thought through and raised some ideas I certainly had never considered. Well done.
 
This has happened frequently to me and some of my friends in the past. We dubbed it the 'raver plague'. I think the environment is perfect for germs and the spread of infection. You are in a room with lots of other people, sweaty, and in close contact. Sometimes you share water, paraphernalia, cigarettes, etc.. Who knows how many people there are sick or just carriers.
 
Yeah It pretty much comes with the territory. I've been going to raves almost every week lately and been sick on and off throughput. Even with vitamins and stuff when you combine the lowered immune system with a sweaty venue where everyone is all over everyone else you have just about the perfect conditions for infections. Add to that AC and wet shirts or no shirts and the wild temperature swings and its bound to happen.

Going to one more tonight than taking a month long break to heal up properly.
 
This just happened to me last night. I took 1 white puma around 10:30 and a few hours later I popped a molly. Once everyone started to come down, I started getting extremely sick. :( Basically it's almost 6pm Hawaii time and I've been up since 10am saturday morning. My teeth are still grinding and I have been puking and feeling nauseated and weak all day. I rolled with two other people who were also on shrooms (bad experiences for me.) but I'm the only one who got sick. :( Everyone else got to sleep for a while and I searched near far and wide to find SOMETHING to help me out. Since I already have anxiety problems I took a handful of that 1mg each, some 5-HTP (it's supposed to help your digestive system as well as refill some seratonin in your brain cells :) My nausea has been coming and going but I've noticed when I walk around or stand up, I'm heading to the toilet to puke some more. :( ANY SUGGESTIONS? nothing is working :(
 
This happened to me after my first 3 rolls, one time i got a bad cold (altho i am a man, which means it was clearly in fact the plague :p) and the other 2 times i ended up with chest infections and need bastard big anti biotics to shake it both times, although since then i have been fine, and in fact have been to more packed venues since i stopped getting ill, im guessing it was a shock to the system the first few times, plus not especially preparing myself for it either.
 
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