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Something that might be better than sex while rolling

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Everything you say Mazdan is very harsh and wrong and many ways. Let the guy roll while skydiving, hell, driving is fun as hell while rolling...
 
I'm a noobie roller and I've even talked to people about this... doesn't this sound really fucking stupid?

You can't picture how troublesome it will be when he starts rolling face and he cant see anything infront or around him and he cant comprehend how to do anything mechanical anymore.. (i.e. opening up doors (I've seen it happen))

Driving while rolling is definitely very fun randomguy but I knew 2 weeks ago I should not have been driving when my eyes were wiggling so hard I could no longer see the roads because the lines were just mixing and matching,

Anyways I would take half or only one good tab and attempt this.. ever.. maybe

This definitely strikes me as a dumb but awesome idea which surprises me considering I ALWAYS take risks

I'm definitely with Mazdan on this one.

Anyway why don't you shoot for rolling earlier then smoking some weed and skydiving?
 
I think the dose is crucial here. Yes, if you're "rolling face", you're going to become a liability to everyone around you, which would just compound the inherent risks of skydiving. On the other hand, if you're on a low dosage I don't think it's nearly as incapacitating as other drugs. Taking MDMA is always a risk; it's up to you to decide what's acceptable and what's not.

I do find it a little funny that one would want to combine two already pretty intense activities. I'm not sure I'd get much out of it myself aside from having my mind blown into little tiny pieces. 8)
 
Most ppl are overacting and I dont tihnk they realize your not the one who has to do all the work. Old women and i mean old have done tandem jumps like that, if u were gonna jump out by urself yeah dumb idea, but what your planning really isnt going to be dangerous. Obviously take just enough to get a nice high dont be rolling your face off
 
For anyone saying they rolled 'too hard' when doing something else while rolling, is this not what he wants?

I say if you are experienced, go for it. But have a partner who carries out the whole process, no matter how experienced you are, your on a drug and your affected. Also ensure the person carrying out the process knows you are on the drug, is aware of the effects (experience would help) and knows what to do in the event of a bad incident. Basically all you should do is 'enjoy the ride'.
 
One thing we realized, you can't always tell when you're sober what things are going to be great while you're rolling.

Before we rolled at Disneyland we went around and mapped out which rides and activities we thought would be amazing, but while rolling some of those things ended up being very grating and annoying...

edit: hmm, I think I'll start a thread about this! : )
 
I think Manzdan should go on a tandem jump and notice how little he actually has to do. For comparison it's basically like going on a roller coaster ride...you strap up and enjoy the ride. I mean for the tandem masters to get certified they go through a training course with certified trainers that purposefully do everything they can wrong in the jump and unless the master in training can handle it and continues the jump safely they don't get certified. I know people that have done tandem jumps while drunk and in my opinion rolling is a much more controlled state of mind than being drunk. I see no danger in it personally. I think for the people that see it as dangerous, they just don't have enough knowledge or experience on the subject of skydiving.

Just my .02
 
RandomGuy123 said:
Everything you say Mazdan is very harsh and wrong and many ways. Let the guy roll while skydiving, hell, driving is fun as hell while rolling...
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Is that what you plan to tell the judge when he puts you away for manslaughter after you kill someone while driving and doing drugs?

I just hope your nowhere near any of my friends or relatives when you act so selfishly.

If harshness helps to get through then so be it. Sadly in some cases nothing gets through and innocent people pay for there stupidity.
 
^ Driving while under the influence is a shitty thing to do..

Tandem jump sky dives.. COMPLETELY different.. Not an irresponsible thing to do atall imo. Go for it.
 
rickolasnice said:
^ Driving while under the influence is a shitty thing to do..

Tandem jump sky dives.. COMPLETELY different.. Not an irresponsible thing to do atall imo. Go for it.
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You know what...........maybe your right, but only on the proviso that the jumper in charge is aware and is therefore prepared to take that into account.
 
rickolasnice said:
^ Driving while under the influence is a shitty thing to do..

Tandem jump sky dives.. COMPLETELY different.. Not an irresponsible thing to do atall imo. Go for it.
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right, except

RGB said:
I think the dose is crucial here. Yes, if you're "rolling face", you're going to become a liability to everyone around you, which would just compound the inherent risks of skydiving. On the other hand, if you're on a low dosage I don't think it's nearly as incapacitating as other drugs. Taking MDMA is always a risk; it's up to you to decide what's acceptable and what's not.
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right. everyone seemed to assume he was going to be trippin balls... bad. but harm reduction would say like everything else, you could start very low and see how it went.

would a tandem jump high on pot be a danger for someone experienced with both? my inclination is to say it would be fine. skydiving is not brain surgery in the sense that the tolerances are not that high (you don't have to pull the chute cord at an exact precise second, but rather in a 10-20 second window, or maybe longer).

it's not the same as driving. much less complicated, and nobody in your way and nothing to "hit" exactly. honestly, is it that much harder than dancing or having sex, two things many people here do routinely on extremely high doses of E and other things?
 
xoqqiy axlotao3al said:
it's not the same as driving. much less complicated, and nobody in your way and nothing to "hit" exactly. honestly, is it that much harder than dancing or having sex, two things many people here do routinely on extremely high doses of E and other things?
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Neither of which is done well on extremely high doses of E, despite great enthusiasm. ;)

Seriously though, I think it's fine. It seems like he's an expert, and I'm sure he'll take the necessary precautions.
 
RGB said:
Neither of which is done well on extremely high doses of E, despite great enthusiasm. ;)

Seriously though, I think it's fine. It seems like he's an expert, and I'm sure he'll take the necessary precautions.
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When/if I decide to do it I'll report back and let you guys know how it went.
 
I think my head would explode (figuratively, of course) if I did this. But for an experienced skydiver for a tandem jump, what an idea. I'd imagine you would want the other guy to be a good friend, or at least a very understanding person.
 
Look, if it was simply a matter of you being instantly transported to 13500 feet and dropped, locked in perfect boxman form, that'd be one thing. There's a couple additional things to think about and it's easy to get complacent with a few jumps under your belt.

The biggest concern of mine is your ride to altitude. You have an obligation to let everyone else on that plane know what you're planning on doing. It isn't just you and your tandem instructor (I assume you're buddies with this person, because I don't know many TI's that would risk their ratings or lives for a random guy who wants to jump high) who are in danger. It's the whole plane. If you decide to do something stupid in the door and end up hitting the tail, you could kill everyone on board. If you're at a larger DZ and jumping out of a Twin Otter or King Air or even a larger Cessna, and you sit near people, they need to know you might be getting grabby with their PCs, closing pins, flaps, handles, etc because it feels good to touch. If I found out that you were on ecstasy and were sitting behind me and didn't inform me, I'd beat the snot out of you the next time I saw you.

Then there is body position in freefall. Granted with a drogue, you're less likely to influence the freefall, but I'm sure you've seen awful tandem student postures, and it does mess with the stability you and the TI have, which can induce malfunctions at pull time.

Man, just don't do it. Skydiving is fucking awesome as it is, don't put that additional risk in it by doing it under the influence.
 
The OP isn't naive to skydiving or rolling. As long as he isn't taking too much E, and is going tandem (do people even do tandem without a drogue?), and the tandem buddy/instructor is aware of what he is doing/using - I think this is possible to do safely.

It's good that people are thinking about the possible worst-case scenarios. I do think some people aren't taking into consideration the experience level here. Some people I think are posting based on plain fear of skydiving.

Sounds like a blast to me. I wish I had 150 jumps under my belt and some E...

(EDIT: Yes, tandem skydiving means someone is attached to you, and they can pull the chute.

And if you want to use the driving analogy - the OP isn't talking about driving on E, he is talking about being in the passenger seat.)
 
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