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whats the point of extracting mescaline?

Have you ever tried eating cactus? Not exactly fun. An extraction makes it at least somewhat bearable.
 
Extractions allow you to see the full power of mescaline. There's no way you could eat enough raw cactus to get 400+mg of mescaline in your system unless you have an iron stomach and no taste buds.
 
yeah, cactus is fucking disgusting, and the "tea" isn't any better. Imagine trying to ingest a pint of warm slightly acidic snot...

Some people (not me) believe mescaline is produced to ward off potential predators. If the taste doesn't stop anything from taking more than one bite, i doubt a psychedelic chemical that takes quite a while to manifest having any effect on predation. Also, given the lengthy comeup time, it would be an ineffective negative reinforcement as the latency between undesired behavior and desired effect are felt... [/slight digression]

EDIT: Why isn't there a puking smilie? I think that would be useful for BL ;)
 
The amount of alkaloids in cactus can vary greatly. When you extract the alkaloids out, which is a very easy process, you can then accurately weigh out a dosage and know how much you are taking.

Also, cactus tastes like shit. Good luck keeping down enough raw cactus or slime tea to have a strong trip.
 
I think this is why "mescaline" has acquired the reputation of being a weak, gently drug among many users who have in fact only consumed cactus (or rudimentary water extracts like tea).

At higher doses, it can knock you on your ass and blast your ego to pieces. Good luck getting there by munching San Pedro.
 
To recap:

A. Cactus tastes like shit
B. When you have refined mescaline you know exactly how much you're taking
C. When you only have to take a capsule it alot easier to double your dose by taking another capsule instead of eating twice as much cactus.
 
Ditto all the previous posts - come back and ask that question again after you try eating / drinking the cactus raw!

Beyond that, even if you grind it up and put it in capsules, you're still going to puke or shit your brains out.

And even beyond that point, sometimes it's nice to be able to go somewhere with one or two small capsules in your pocket and have a great night vs. lugging around 60+ capsules full of cactus powder or some jar full of slime.
 
it all depends on one's guts . i used to pick the tufts out and choke down a whole paper bag full and not blow my lunch . the heaves leave after one's head begins to turn .
like all the mind altering stuff out there it is essentially just a toxin .
 
San Pedro maybe but Peruvian torch has like 300mg per 38 grams.

Also, isn't it hard to weigh out the pure mescaline, because it's not 100% pure.

You can have 40% mescaline or 95% mescaline. So even though you weigh out 400mg it could be 200mg. And sorta vice versa if you're expecting the opposite.

Also I don't have a miligram scale
 
San Pedro maybe but Peruvian torch has like 300mg per 38 grams.

Also, isn't it hard to weigh out the pure mescaline, because it's not 100% pure.

You can have 40% mescaline or 95% mescaline. So even though you weigh out 400mg it could be 200mg. And sorta vice versa if you're expecting the opposite.

Also I don't have a miligram scale
1. What makes you think 38 gs has exactly 300mgs? I've had 50 gs of both cacti give me anywhere from 400 mgs-1,500 mgs.
2. The extract depending on the method used may have picked up other alkaloids(which I personally enjoy) but it still isn't going to bog down and make it 40% pure.
3. No its not hard to weigh. All you need is a .001 scale.
 
Ditto all the previous posts - come back and ask that question again after you try eating / drinking the cactus raw!

Beyond that, even if you grind it up and put it in capsules, you're still going to puke or shit your brains out.
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I've never had any problems with nausea or vomiting consuming cacti. It tastes horrible but usually I have a big pot made and drink it all night. Its kind of like drinking whiskey in the sense that the first couple sips are almost unbearable. But 5 hours into it I'm taking massive gulps without even cringing :)

I cant expect everyone to experience this as it really is vile
 
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At higher doses, it can knock you on your ass and blast your ego to pieces. Good luck getting there by munching San Pedro.


Agreed, when I get around to this sacred phen I want to become familiar with it in a very full and enveloped way. Why would I not extract mescaline??
 
Because it can blow up in your face! (well... maybe not with the D-limonene tek)

With a simple alcohol extract, you will get a very small amount of cactus to swallow. 100 grams of cactus would not be a problem. At all.
 
For me; to ease consumption and lower body load.

The tea is possibly the most nasty thing I have ever tasted and drinking it is a real chore. Then I get nauseous and bring it all back up; weak trip follows.

I just do a simple alcohol extraction and parachute the tar. No taste, drastically reduced nausea (still there but manageable, like other psychedelics). I haven't done a full Acid/Base to get crystals... yet. :)
 
I think this is why "mescaline" has acquired the reputation of being a weak, gently drug among many users who have in fact only consumed cactus (or rudimentary water extracts like tea).

At higher doses, it can knock you on your ass and blast your ego to pieces. Good luck getting there by munching San Pedro.

Absolutely true! ^-^
Done it every way; 400mg weighed powder right out of the lab is shatteringly fun puts you on the edge of >where's my ego dude indeed.=D
Cheers
 
San Pedro maybe but Peruvian torch has like 300mg per 38 grams.

Also, isn't it hard to weigh out the pure mescaline, because it's not 100% pure.

You can have 40% mescaline or 95% mescaline. So even though you weigh out 400mg it could be 200mg. And sorta vice versa if you're expecting the opposite.

Also I don't have a miligram scale

Thats why you make a shit load first. Test it out with the first trail round then adjust your dose for the real trip a week or 2 later.
Patience is key here.

Scales are cheaper the coffins! don't ya think)
 
like I've said 500 times already, all you have to do is prepare the tea correctly, fast for a few hours before the trip, and drink a cup of ginger tea before you ingest and you can have a mind-shattering trip with no nausea, all on 12 inches of San Pedro.

it seems most people are just sandy vaginas when it comes to drinking a shot of bitter cactus juice.
 
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