• BASIC DRUG
    DISCUSSION
    Welcome to Bluelight!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Benzo Chart Opioids Chart
    Drug Terms Need Help??
    Drugs 101 Brain & Addiction
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums
  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

drugs vs alcohol

D

daftpunk1991

Bluelighter
Joined
May 17, 2010
Messages
65
hi

just want to know ..

what messes ur brain more

i seen on t.v last night that drinkin when under the influence it slows down every single cell down in your brian ... and releses pent up feelings and surpressed anger ...that people act out on

thakfully when im drunk i dont think im superman after a few beers or turn into an ass but it dus slow you down and make you sleepy and stupid some times ...the complete oppisite to when im on drugs

the drugs that im on about would be mephedrone,coke and mdma ect ...
all i read thay do is just relese set your serritonan and levels high ... just makes all the endorphans flow ....



just woundering whats better or worse long term .....

thanks
 
I'd say out of the above mentioned drugs MDMA long term would be the worse. It's pretty neurotoxic if you overdo it long term. Not too much is known about the toxicity of mephredone since it's new. Alcohol, I believe, is the only known drug to affect every organ in the human body, is neurotoxic, damages your liver and kidneys, among other things. Still probably safer to drink occasionally than roll occasionally but if you turn into an alcoholic your health will greatly suffer.

I'd guess coke would actually be the safest out of what you listed. It's pretty rough on your heart though.
 
yeah thaks ...

one more question .....

when i take mepehdrone ... in large ammounts ... i react different to my friends ...

i do take more than thay do in one go but thats because my tolerence is higher than them ...
whe i first started i wudn be able to sit still ... dancing around havin fun talkin everything ..

but now all i do is sit down with my eyes rolling into my haed not talking and just feel layze ..
now dont get me wrong it still feels unreal ... but why am i the onlyone who dose this ... it didnt happen at the start
 
The human body considers alcohol a poison. Alcohol is known to cause liver, stomach, brain and intestinal damage.

I don't think MDMA in itself is neurotoxic. I believe neurotoxicity occurs when you are on it and you are hot and sweaty by way of a byproduct.

Probably the safest drugs are the ones that cause temporary changes in how a given receptor does its job in the body (e.g. receptor upregulation or downregulation).

Opiates and Benzos come to mind as some of the safest recreational drugs WHEN taking into consideration any type of organ damage. Years of study have shown that opiates and benzos do not cause any organ damage (with the exception of pethidine which has a neurotoxic metabolite).
 
daftpunk1991 said:
yeah thaks ...

one more question .....

when i take mepehdrone ... in large ammounts ... i react different to my friends ...

i do take more than thay do in one go but thats because my tolerence is higher than them ...
whe i first started i wudn be able to sit still ... dancing around havin fun talkin everything ..

but now all i do is sit down with my eyes rolling into my haed not talking and just feel layze ..
now dont get me wrong it still feels unreal ... but why am i the onlyone who dose this ... it didnt happen at the start
Click to expand...

yeah i had that, it was on a different batch of meph though. i was an eye rolling, gurning mess, and could of happily sat there and gone to sleep. the meph i used to get would of sent me babbling and speeding around like a crackhead
 
ColtDan said:
yeah i had that, it was on a different batch of meph though. i was an eye rolling, gurning mess, and could of happily sat there and gone to sleep. the meph i used to get would of sent me babbling and speeding around like a crackhead
Click to expand...

yup its weird .. im not happy untill i get my self into a state that i cant move ... is this ok or will i do damage or is it totally bad ??
 
Alcohol is as much as drug as any other drug. Hell, the various kinds of damage it can cause could maybe even rival that of the drugs that are considered "hard drugs". It just doesn't have quite all the social/lifestyle problems of the "hard drugs" because it's legal and socially accepted.

ColtDan said:
yeah i had that, it was on a different batch of meph though. i was an eye rolling, gurning mess, and could of happily sat there and gone to sleep. the meph i used to get would of sent me babbling and speeding around like a crackhead
Click to expand...
Mephedrone is mephedrone. The effects are either becoming different due to tolerance, people starting to cut meph, or a bit of both.
 
alri .. well thanks for all the feed back ...

i tryed to change the name of the thread but couldnt ...
 
daftpunk1991 said:
yup its weird .. im not happy untill i get my self into a state that i cant move ... is this ok or will i do damage or is it totally bad ??
Click to expand...

its bad... meph has some bad side effects... booze is obviously also bad, but the side effects that come with meph make it a whole lot worse in my opinion. ive had some incredibly bad come downs and quite bad side effects
 
ColtDan said:
its bad... meph has some bad side effects... booze is obviously also bad, but the side effects that come with meph make it a whole lot worse in my opinion. ive had some incredibly bad come downs and quite bad side effects
Click to expand...

i have been off it now 2 weeks ... but i just dont feel right in my head kinda down in my self did this happen to you
 
ro4eva said:
The human body considers alcohol a poison. Alcohol is known to cause liver, stomach, brain and intestinal damage.

I don't think MDMA in itself is neurotoxic. I believe neurotoxicity occurs when you are on it and you are hot and sweaty by way of a byproduct.

Probably the safest drugs are the ones that cause temporary changes in how a given receptor does its job in the body (e.g. receptor upregulation or downregulation).

Opiates and Benzos come to mind as some of the safest recreational drugs WHEN taking into consideration any type of organ damage. Years of study have shown that opiates and benzos do not cause any organ damage (with the exception of pethidine which has a neurotoxic metabolite).
Click to expand...

IMO, I think this is the best summary of what I was going to say. I think alcohol is very bad for you. It does so much damage not including damage done just by being drunk and doing something stupid.

I personally stick with weed, opiates and benzos.
 
daftpunk1991 said:
i have been off it now 2 weeks ... but i just dont feel right in my head kinda down in my self did this happen to you
Click to expand...

yes, and it happens more and more... i kick myself for doing meph... makes me very depressed sometimes for days afterwards
 
if you choose to hurt your body make it enjoyable, leave out the booze.You'll feel better the next day anyway.

added bonus you wont have to worry about the what the fuck did I just do feeling when you wake up....I Always hated the Soooooo much.
 
I ended up in rehab because of booze but not drugs so i would say alcohol is worse for me
 
Fuck Alcohol, it took me a lot of years but I really only enjoy opiates, benzos and small amounts of pharmaceutical amphetamines. All the other drugs fuck with me too much. I like to be able to think and function even when I'm high. I used to drink too much and it was really destructive. A drink or two here and there are fine but I don't even enjoy moderate amounts of alcohol anymore.

I think Alcohol is one of the most physically damaging drugs out there.
 
I group alcohol as a drug like any other, with a slight footnote saying "legal". Overall, I find it to be an awful drug to intoxicate oneself on - it can be pretty addictive, it's unhealthy as shit, it gives you a horrible hangover, and the feeling of being drunk is not very pleasurable for me anymore - not since I was a teenager. I find small amounts of alcohol (2-4 beers usually) to be nice and relaxing, especially in combination with cannabis and to slightly potentiate benzos and such, but that's the extent of my drinking nowadays.

It's a drug, and among one of the worst on my list in terms of how much I like the effects and how bad it is for ya.
 
Yes these posts seem to have it right. Out of what you listed, from worst to best is:

MDMA
alcohol
mephedrone
cocaine

It's proven that too much or too often MDMA will shred through axon terminals and damage the serotonin system. This will effect emotional stability. Alcohol may be just as bad or worse with high doses. It's basically a poison. It corrodes the lining of every organ it passes through. Just the fact that it burns you throat should tell you it is corrosive. Mephedrone hasn't been studied enough yet, but I have faith it has similar health problems as other synthetic stimulants. Cocaine would be the lest damaging on the brain and body (don't think it's neurotoxic), but it can be rough on your heart with high doses.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top