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Any other stoners addicted to exercise and healthy eating?

I'm kind of the same way. I would never ever work out while high just because, to me, it makes the work feel never-ending. But I always feel like after a night of toking, I need to spend the next day running at least four miles and I always try to munch on healthy stuff.
 
I am a daily smoker and have a very strict, however exceptional(IMO) diet. Vegetarian and about 60% of my calories come from organic tree nuts or tree nut butters(almonds, walnuts, pecans, peanuts, brazil nuts, etc.), the rest is fresh organic vegetables or fresh vegetable juice with minimal amounts of grains(only quinoa and buckwheat) and organic fresh or dried fruit as an occasional snack(blueberries and gojis only). Only liquid is clean water and white/green tea. I also take ~15 supplements upon rising and an additional ~4-5 shorly before bed. I guess you could say my diet is "semi-paleo"(barring the grains and tea of course), but I do indulge in some things I know I shouldn't every now and then. I'm only human after all =D

Unfortunately, I don't excersize nearly as much as I should. :(
I manage 15 minutes of meditation shortly after I wake up however I get little other excersize aside from the occasional bike ride and the normal physical work that my job requires.
 
15 supplements!?!??!?!?! you need to find a way to get your vitamins from a natural source bra
 
aparenz said:
15 supplements!?!??!?!?! you need to find a way to get your vitamins from a natural source bra
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Vitamins are only those nutrients that I would die without, they are certainly not all the compounds that are necessary/beneficial to human longevity. (And trust me, my vitamin/mineral levels are just fine. I'd be willing to bet my diet is much better than yours ;))

For example some compounds my diet does not include in optimum quantities(hence why I supplement) are -
Green Tea extract (EGCG and related polyphenols, catechins, etc.)
Grapeseed extract (Resveratrol, proanthocyanidins, etc.)
Melatonin (Powerful antioxidant and shown to protect the pineal gland, and a true "anti-againg" supplement if I've ever seen one)
Vitamin D3/K2 capsules.(One of the most important items in my stack)
Omega-3 fatty acids
...I could go on. And this is of course in addition to a quality multivitamin/multimineral :)
 
I'm not dissing on the fact that they are great for your diet, I'm just saying you could be an equally as healthy individual without them. Do you really feel that you are healthier than everyone that doesn't take those supplements?

Edit: Also by the way melatonin has not been researched enough to show extensive examples of "anti-aging effects". The only supplementation of melatonin which is backed by research is to help aid in sleep. There are claims of course that it may do this, but these claims don't mean anything until long-term research has been made.
 
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aparenz said:
I'm not dissing on the fact that they are great for your diet, I'm just saying you could be an equally as healthy individual without them.
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100% nonsense. There are numerous studies showing that supplementation with certain compounds decreases risks of various diseases and promotes a generally healthier life.

aparenz said:
Edit: Also by the way melatonin has not been researched enough to show extensive examples of "anti-aging effects". The only supplementation of melatonin which is backed by research is to help aid in sleep. There are claims of course that it may do this, but these claims don't mean anything until long-term research has been made.
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My research has led me to believe melatonin supplementation(I personally take 300µg every night) is beneficial to those individuals aged at least ~20-25+ years. Endogenous melatonin biosynthesis begins to decrease around this time I believe. Also 300µg/day is unlikely to cause downregulation/desensitize of endogenous MT2 receptors.

Below are a few links to support my claim -
http://www.antiaging-systems.com/extract/melatonin.htm
http://www.uni-koeln.de/symposium2002/reiter_light.pdf
Of course this is only a sample, there is ample evidence to support my claims.

Melatonin is an antioxidant, geroprotector and anticarcinogen, this we know with certainty.
 
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I'd rather not argue this as it will not end well for both of us, haha. I'd just like to say that it's extremely difficult to isolate the long term effects that vitamin supplementation will have on health. If you researched you would know that there is indeed studies out there that also say the opposite of much of what you say. There are studies taken on various individuals who supplement and those that don't and differences to be found in "healthiness" are negligible (if healthiness is even quantifiable).

Hey if something is working, it's working. If you feel that its actively helped your life long journey, then no one's stopping you from taking 15 supplemental nutrients per day. But if you asked the oldest man alive how he reached his age, I very much doubt his answer will be "15 vitamins a day and a healthy diet!". Everyone has their own answer to health and if one thinks there is one best for all they are blinding them self from reality.

Edit: Yes we know for certainty those listed effects concerning melatonin, but what we don't know is what really matters.

Here's an example study I found http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/04/16/antioxidants-study.html
http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab007176.html
 
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I'd just like to say that it's extremely difficult to isolate the long term effects that vitamin supplementation will have on health.
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Actually several such studies have been conducted. From what I've observed, it been mainly with fat soluble nutrients like vit A/D/E, etc.

But if you asked the oldest man alive how he reached his age, I very much doubt his answer will be "15 vitamins a day and a healthy diet!".
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*Sigh*
You still seem to be unable to distinguish between "vitamins", and other "nutrients". As I said, "vitamins" are those compounds necessary for an organism to maintain homeostasis and survive. I get the vast majority of my dietary vitamins and minerals from natural sources(ie food), however I do take a multi to 'fill in the gaps', so to speak. The other compounds in my "stack" are things like phytonutrients, which aren't 'necessary' per se, however they have shown to be extremely beneficial to human health.

Everyone has their own answer to health and if one thinks there is one best for all they are blinding them self from reality.
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I never said my supplement/diet regime is most ideal one there is. Plenty of factors are involved, such as genetic history, gender, etc. However I am saying that at the moment, this is the optimal diet/supplement plan for me. :)

I do agree though that we've cluttered this thread enough. I've said what I felt is necessary so I will kindly leave.
 
delta_9 said:
Actually several such studies have been conducted. From what I've observed, it been mainly with fat soluble nutrients like vit A/D/E, etc.

*Sigh*
You still seem to be unable to distinguish between "vitamins", and other "nutrients". As I said, "vitamins" are those compounds necessary for an organism to maintain homeostasis and survive. I get the vast majority of my dietary vitamins and minerals from natural sources(ie food), however I do take a multi to 'fill in the gaps', so to speak. The other compounds in my "stack" are things like phytonutrients, which aren't 'necessary' per se, however they have shown to be extremely beneficial to human health.


I never said my supplement/diet regime is most ideal one there is. Plenty of factors are involved, such as genetic history, gender, etc. However I am saying that at the moment, this is the optimal diet/supplement plan for me. :)

I do agree though that we've cluttered this thread enough. I've said what I felt is necessary so I will kindly leave.
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You might want to look into getting a whole food supplement such as phytoberry and veggie plus. One shake for a full days worth of nutrients of all types. Omegas, antioxidants, phytonutrients, etc from different types of plants and fruits.
 
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