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Luude said:
Since when was i talking about a 'true' anything....what is true?

Are you telling me my vivid experiences on LSD for example are not part of a hallucination?

Who is to say a hallucination for me isn't a psychotic episode for you? Who makes that determination?

I DO hallucinate on Ketamine, certainly not by your definition. Your definition doesn't even make sense to me. You cannot define what a hallucination is for someone.

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From what I understand a 'true hallucination' is one you can't distinguish from reality. You still have normal hallucinations on LSD, I think it's just a confusing term.
 
Put it this way, the experiences i have on K are infinitely deeper than i do on any other drug.

Dont really know how else to explain it.
 
U dont hallucinate on acid. It just changes ur perceptions. Hallucinations are things u see that arnt there. Ive never really happened to see anything like that even on high doses.
 
Sustanon said:
U dont hallucinate on acid. It just changes ur perceptions. Hallucinations are things u see that arnt there. Ive never really happened to see anything like that even on high doses.
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I have seen stuff that is not there lots of times. Even saw virgin mary and jesus one trip

On mushies as well my whole vision has gone into another world.
 
Luude said:
Since when was i talking about a 'true' anything....what is true?

Are you telling me my vivid experiences on LSD for example are not part of a hallucination?

Who is to say a hallucination for me isn't a psychotic episode for you? Who makes that determination?

I DO hallucinate on Ketamine, certainly not by your definition. Your definition doesn't even make sense to me. You cannot define what a hallucination is for someone.

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No, your vivid experiences on LSD are not true hallucinations. Can you distinguish them from reality? Are you hearing voices in your head that you are sure are real and you would obey every word they say? Are you followed by people that others are trying to tell you aren't really there? No?

Then you haven't hallucinated and I'm fairly sure your hallucinations on LSD are nothing like a psychotic episode for me.

'My' definition isn't just something I pulled out of my ass, it's the medically accepted definition. Hallucination as a word has been used to describe the visual effects of drugs like LSD, ketamine, etc... but they aren't true hallucinations unless they are indistinguishable from reality to the user.
 
I literally just got hooked up with a nice ketamine dealer where I am so i'm super psyched. I thought it didn't exist in Australia until I met this guy, now i'm able to buy some nice amounts. Gonna do it for the first time this monday.
 
blode said:
I literally just got hooked up with a nice ketamine dealer where I am so i'm super psyched. I thought it didn't exist in Australia until I met this guy, now i'm able to buy some nice amounts. Gonna do it for the first time this monday.
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You lucky bastard!
 
I would say I wish I had a decent source for K, but honestly I am shit broke and if I wasn't any surplus would likely be spent on opiates.

I have to side with mr blonde in regards to the medically accepted definition of hallucination, however I don't think its really inappropriate to refer to the visual aspect of psychedelics as hallucinations. They aren't hallucinations in a true sense but at the same time, what is a better word to use? And is there any real point in using it? I mean people know what you mean when you are saying it, can get into semantics but at the end of the day I think we can all agree we know what people are saying.
 
blode said:
I literally just got hooked up with a nice ketamine dealer where I am so i'm super psyched. I thought it didn't exist in Australia until I met this guy, now i'm able to buy some nice amounts. Gonna do it for the first time this monday.
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nice one dude. lucky dog. i've only ever had it in pills (which i bought BECAUSE htey were k lol) and it was rad.

only times i've ever heard of k dealers was like....weed and E dealers who happened upon a bit of it. looks like u struck gold if you have a legit k dude who just does that!

i like people who do one thing, and do it real well. too many ppl i know half dabble in everything and just suck at it
 
A good multi stocker is ideal but hard to find, I agree on a whole that people who deal in one or two substances generally do a lot better than people who take on all sorts. That said I have had some damn reliable people over the years who had numerous drugs on them at any given time. It really is ideal when you can pick up your weeks worth of meth, E and weed etc. in the one transaction, makes being a heavy drug user much less of a fuck around.
 
drug_mentor said:
It really is ideal when you can pick up your weeks worth of meth, E and weed etc. in the one transaction
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if only they would deliver beer, maccas, pizza and movies. a veritable one stop shop for your drug/drug induced needs

boy that would be fucking great =D
 
bud.lightyear said:
if only they would deliver beer, maccas, pizza and movies. a veritable one stop shop for your drug/drug induced needs

boy that would be fucking great =D
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Hahahaa i think they deliver pizza and beer as well (larger super markets). Only if they had kfc home delivery :( That used to be so cool.
 
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There used to be heaps more k around, in fact it was the first drug I ever tried back in 2003. In those days pills were imports or locals, the locals being 'speedy k's', which we'd buy specifically for the k rather than the mdma. Racking up lines off the tables at Bubble, and the drive into the city taking 30 mins longer than usual so we could stop for lines every 10 mins or so, happy memories %)

Ketamine has also been my drug of choice for a come down/scattered Sunday, it just feels so refreshing, like the 'reset' button has been pressed on your brain. I've been lucky enough to get onto k recently so I've been enoying that, though the last couple of times I've overdone it, which is all to easy to do.
 
Ketamine has also been my drug of choice for a come down/scattered Sunday, it just feels so refreshing, like the 'reset' button has been pressed on your brain. I've been lucky enough to get onto k recently so I've been enoying that, though the last couple of times I've overdone it, which is all to easy to do.
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That's exactly how I'd describe it actually, almost wipes out the feeling of a nasty comedown.

A friend of mine who's had a rather nasty on/off meth addiction has commented that K completely kills his cravings, at least in a short term basis.

It's an interesting drug that I think would have a hell of a lot of useful application in psychotherapy and addiction treatment if the research was done.
 
Yeah I remember the first time I did K was a pill as well. In fact up until rather recently I had never used ketamine that wasn't pressed into a pill. It is a fucking sweet drug, its a shame its so hard to find a lot of the time. Opiates are probably the only drug I would say I prefer to K, maybe meth. It is definately up there with the best.
 
I'd go so far as to say that the only drugs I really care for are opiates, K, MDMA, meth, and those that closely mimic their effects. Everything else I could happily live without.
 
Replace MDMA with weed, booze and benzo's and i would be inclined to agree with you. I am likely to be trying G this weekend though and thinking its likely that will sit quite nicely with me.
 
I didn't like G, it felt like a more sedating version of alcohol to me, and opiates aside I'm not a huge fan of downers.
 
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