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that's just how benzos are for me, which is probably why i want to keep taking more to try and make it enjoyable.
 
~5mg 2C-B insufflated. Had to sniff up whatever was left on the scale. =D
Bout to smoke a strawberry flavored joint as well.
 
Noddin hard....

Shot 2 Oxy 80's this morning which blew my socks off even with tolerence
Shot 3 bags of some fine heroin throughout the rest of the day and now its time to enter that peaceful sleep that only opiates give
 
Thizzerfershizzer said:
~5mg 2C-B insufflated. Had to sniff up whatever was left on the scale. =D
Bout to smoke a strawberry flavored joint as well.
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2c-b is the most painful thing ive ever snorted.

snorted 25mg and it burned sooooo bad, but i was coming up instantly almost so it was very confusing, puking rainbows type of stuff.

eventually i projectile-vomited it all up and it was the most acidic vomit ever it was nasty.

good trip afterwards though ;)

**havent smoked since like 3pm, whats wrong with me?!
 
Ya, ive taken a full dose nasally before and it was definitely the most mainful thing ive ever snorted. But I couldnt let what I had go to waste and it wasnt going to be active at all orally, so i snarted it :P

Even that burned!!!

Got a wee bit of the body high for a few minutes and then it all faded away. Nice while it lasted though.


Will be taking either 30mg 2C-B this weekend, or 40mg 2C-C. Havent decided yet :P
 
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how's clonidine by itself? do they give it to people to relieve w/d symptoms because it's effective without being fun?
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be very, very careful with clonodine. i attempted to use it once to taper off of opiate addiction as rx'd by my psychiatrist at the time (it was the only thing he was willing to rx for me, he really wanted me to do an in-patient thing, but i left his office with a script for fourteen 0.1mg clonidine hcl). i believe it is a partial mu-agonist, but i'm not 100% certain on that (i know that he said it was a partial something agonist, but it may have been beta). it does alleviate the w/d symptoms somewhat, but it has the potential for a whole host of horrid side effects. lucky me, i was susceptible to most of them.

alot of the side effects, unfortunately are very similar to w/d-- severe fluctuations of perceived body temperature, muscle soreness, headache, restless legs, sweats, nausea (luckily i didn't experience this any vomitting, but i got all of the rest), insomnia, vivid dreams/nightmares.

it is essentially a blood pressure pill, so my blood pressure would plummet and (the first few doses) i would fall asleep for exactly two hours. some of the worst night mares of my life were the first two nights i took clonidine hcl. other than those two (sweaty, nightmare filled) hours of sleep per dose (for the first four doses; the subsequent three did nothing but prolong my agony ) i got no other sleep for 5+ days.

for me, it caused a widely fluctuating heart race/rhythm which was honestly quite terrifying at points. it caused EXTREME mental confusion, linguistic difficulty (bordering on the inability to communicate coherently at times), and greatly exacerbated my pre-existing sleep paralysis (lots of fun after said nightmares). it caused electric-like shock pulses to convulse through my body at random intervals.

i repeatedly described my mental state as one of 'trying to think/function with thick hot fog permeating my brain' (well, i tried to describe it as such-- i got the 'thick hot fog in brain' part out but forming complete sentences was nigh on impossible).

i was supposed to do a 6 day tapering detox on it, but after day two i decided that i'd rather be in withdrawal then have the clonididne feeling, so i tapered myself down on day three and stopped taking it. i felt the mental confusion and ill-effects for well over 72 hours after my last pill. Obviously some of the physical ill-affects are attributable to w/d, but the mental aspect can only be ascribed to the clonidine hcl.

i've truly detoxed myself a number of times from many different (IV) opiates. i've detoxed myself by weaning down for weeks first getting off the needle then going to a less powerful narcotic then tapering the dose; by weening down for several days then suffering a bit; by going cold turkey with and without benzos to alleviate some suffering. This is not to mention spending 24-48 in w/d because the town was dry countless times.

i was on no other medication when i took the clonidine.

i said it repeatedly at the time: i would have MUCH rather went through cold turkey w/d (i was banging 80-160 mg of oxycodone and/or morphine daily at that time, with the occasional hydro/oxymorphone thrown in when available). MUCH MUCH MUCH rather. no question. clonidine is one of--if not the nastiest-- feeling substance i've ever put in my body. i was truly afraid that i would never get back to normal mentally.


the potential, more common side effects of the clonidine are quite similar to that of opiate withdrawal anyway, then i got to experience a host of more severe, less common side effects on top of those. it was hell. it was the worst week of my life, no question. mental and physical agony on top of wondering if my brain was ever going to be right again.

fwiw, my girlfriend's sister detoxed on a cocktail of drugs, including clonidine hcl, about six weeks ago. she did not report any of the extremely discomfiting side effects that i felt, but she still had a rough time of it. while it is likely that i had an extremely bad reaction to it, i still would not recommend it to anyone. if one's experience with clonidine hcl is anywhere near similar to mine, one will readily agree that cold turkey withdrawal is preferable.

at least the worst of the opiate w/d is over by day 5... it was a solid 4 days after my last dose of clonidine hcl before i began to get my brain back, two weeks of hell when it was all said and done. never again. i'll detox cold turkey before i'll even consider that shit again.


edit: but to answer the actual question in the topic, i'm comfortably numb from 150mg of IV oxycodone. not quit nodding, but sleep will be no problem and lying down will feel like melting into my mattress for the 64 seconds i'm awake prior to dreamland...
 
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DoorsofPerception said:
Noddin hard....

Shot 2 Oxy 80's this morning which blew my socks off even with tolerence
Shot 3 bags of some fine heroin throughout the rest of the day and now its time to enter that peaceful sleep that only opiates give
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I love this post. I can almost feel how good you must have felt after all that. Happy nodding.<3
 
High as shit off of 30mg MS-IR. It was my first time coming into morphine!! I combined it with 10mg hydrocodone because I could only get 30mg of the good stuff.

Mmmmmmmmmmm...time to smoke bowls and nod...
 
I'd make you love 'em =D

@thread: smoking the itty bitty bit of JWH-073 I found stashed away.
2C-C tomorrow! Cant wait! :)
 
300mg Tramadol and weed, but apparently not good enough stuff to keep me from throwing up. I just hope I'm done with that now.
 
I a the biggest blotter I had. It was about twice the size of all the other ones. I also ate the second half of a blotter I cut in half last week. I'm trying DXM with it, I probably wont take more than 200mgs. I've got a 40oz for the come down. I downed some Pepto-Bismal for my tummy.
 
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