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Benzo + Opiate Question

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Burg86

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Hey yall, I take 2mg of klonopin a day for anxiety and sometimes an extra .5mg at night if I need it, and I've been on it for 4 months now. With that said though, I was wondering if it's safe to take hydrocodone the next day, basically 20-24 hours later (like 5 to 10mg). If I do should I just not take the klonopin at all or just take less of it? I'm asking b/c I've heard about these people mixing the two and OD'ing and I guess it kinda freaks me out. I dont know if they were taking way too much, or if that combo at all is just a bad idea. If anyone knows anything about it then let me know.. thanks.
 
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I take it you have little to no opiate tolerance?

I don't think it should cause an concern. You've been accustomed to your benzo now for a few months, throwing 10mg hydro on top of it should just cause a better high. If anything, limit your benzo intake prior to dosing, and just take the hydro. Once you get a feel for how the high is going to be like, maybe take .5 of kpin. It will increase the high, so if you aren;t comfortable when the hydro takes a hold, don't benzo dose.
 
Okay cool thanks. I did used to have a very small tolerance to tabs actually, it's just been a long time since I've taken any and I didn't know how these 2 went together, other than a few bad stories I'd read / heard about before.
 
In my opinion its best to be more accustomed to the benzodiazepine than the opiate and it sounds as if you have if you've been taking them for four months. Taking a low dose like 5-10mg Hydrocodone with 1mg of Clonazepam sounds very safe in your situation and in most others as well. Just to be safe I wouldn't take anymore than 2mg.
 
Thanks for the feedback. I used to love taking a hydro here & there until I started on my kpin and now I've been too paranoid to take any because of the stories you hear about the combo being dangerous. It sounds like it should be okay though in small amounts I guess.
 
It is a bitch to quit, you're right. I started on 2.5, now I'm pretty much down to 2 and hope to get down to 1mg by the end of the month.
 
I guess just one more question outta me and I'll be done (and it might be a stupid one, sorry if it is). Is it still considered "mixing" if you take the opiate a full day after your benzo, or would you have to take them @ the same time or within a few hours of each other?
 
If you take hydro at 12p, and then take a benzo, at like 8pm, I wouldn't really call that mixing. Now, if you took hydro @ 12p and benzo at like 1p, then yes mixing.


The longer you wait between the hydro and kpin, the less interaction they will have.
 
I have to join in on the clonazepam is a bitch to quit bandwagon. I've been on it for a decade though I've tried short breaks by tapering with Xanax which is easier to get off for me. I've only tried two times to get off it but currently trying to get off right now very slowly. (6mg to 1.5mg daily within 6-8 months) Each dose decreased and I begin to feel some of the withdrawal syndrome symptoms for like a few weeks. It would be good for you to try and cut your dose. Don't get stuck like me.
 
I'm on 2mgs of Klonopin prescribed daily and even dropping .5mg is a bitch after the third day or so, still a million times easier to maintain than Xanax, that was hell.

Like everyone has already said you're safe to take the Vicodin but just remember that you don't want to get dependent on another drug, it's all fun at first but after awhile those benzos and opiates are like handcuffs. Space out your opiate doses as much as possible.
 
Psychedelic Jay said:
In the yime frame of you doing this, it is so safe, that this is funny to me.

Cheers.
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LOL.. I was worried about mixing after years of klonopin.... It's always better to be safe than sorry. When I had my galbladder issue I wouldn't take my xanax with the demerol for the pain and I wound up having a massive panic attack then when I finally took the xanax it was pure euphoria... lol I should have just taken my medication at regular doses but I was scared.
 
Psychedelic Jay said:
In the yime frame of you doing this, it is so safe, that this is funny to me.

Cheers.
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I find it sad. I wish that users would look into the drug chemistrys, and how they work, and what could cause this to be dangerous, before wondering if it was dangerous.

None the less, to the OP, I cant see why you wouldn't be fine. I've got a bit of a benzo tolerance, scripted 2.5mg a day KPin, but I still take like 10mg + with heroin, and I'm always fine.

When mixing opiates and benzo's, the best advice I can give people to not overdose, and from personal experience, and personal deaths, I'll stand to this:

Overdose on benzo's alone is pretty hard to accomplish, you'll probably pass out before getting there.

Overdosing on opiates can be easier, if you do a shitload, stronger bag, whatever. However with opiate withdrawal, if you are with someone who is naltrexone certified (as I am, and I carry it everywhere now, just incase) then you're pretty good, or if you remember that if you can outlast the effects (awake) they will wear off and you won't "od".

Here is when the real big problems come in:
1) You take a TON of benzo's. Causing you to enter a benzo blackout, or eat more benzo's and then blackout. Or maybe you did a little bit of dope, a little benzo, and then you ate a bunch of benzo's, you see where this is going. After taking a bunch of benzo's, or benzo's + alcohol, etc, people tend to do pretty stupid things, lose their inhibitions, and "blackout" doing things they don't remember, often stupid things. Which lead a friend of mine, after eating 10 x 2mg Xanax bars to decide to go get some dope. Which she did. She didn't test it, didn't measure out a normal amount, was so fucked she shot it all. Required 3 narcan injections, and a miracle that she's still alive. Also, passing out amist this, and vomiting, can also lead to death.

2) You fall asleep, either from the benzo's, or nod out. A problem from mixing the two, often with ONE or both in a high amount. This leads the person into thinking they should go lay down for a minute, and they die in their sleep. This is why if you can just outlast the effects of the opiates, you'll be find.

I hope this made sense to you. if you have any questions, please ask. I find that understanding reasons listed above would save a lot of lives, atleast in my personal circle, if they just understood the basic concepts, and what really "kills" a person.
 
Be careful with this mix. I took 2mg of xanax, I have no benzo tolerance. Later on I did 60mg of oxy and drabk one beer. I went home and fell asleep. A couple hours later I woke up with my heart racing and I was breathing real hard, like I had stopped breathing in my sleep. Be careful peepz
 
Thanks for more responses. It sounds to me like people who do OD or have bad reactions from mixing benzos/opiates are using too much of either one or both of the drugs, or maybe taking them at the same time. I could be off though because I've also heard before that using just a little of both can synergize and sneak up on you and be dangerous.

I just stay paranoid about it because, at least for now, I have to take my kpin for anxiety and restlesness, but I love taking a tab every now and then just b/c I like them. With me I take about 2.5mg of kpin a day, and if I'm gonna take any hydro (lortab) I would wait about about a day before I take any, and even then the most I would take is 10mg of the tabs. I hope that by waiting a day or so between the two makes it safe.
 
It's really just a matter of me struggling with the idea of taking the tabs because I have to take my kpin, and don't like the idea of that mix. I just wanna be sure if I do take them I'm spacing it out and going w/ right doses so I don't do something stupid.
 
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