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Tripping - How often is too often?

Jesusgreen

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Alright, I know some people who trip very often, and like it that way, regardless of tolerance, I also know people who trip every 1-2 weeks to avoid tolerance but trip as often as possible, and then there's the people who save tripping for special occasions and say that you shouldn't trip too often or you'll lose the magic and gain less from it.

What do YOU personally think is too often? I don't think there is such a thing with psychedelics, if you have the free time to trip, and can afford to trip, then I say you should trip as often as you like, provided you are doing it for the right reasons and not just "for the lulz" - as there are other drugs more appropriate for pure recreation. However I also think it depends a lot on the person, some peoples minds simply don't agree with tripping very often and so it would be a very bad idea to do so.

I'm partly asking this because I initially started using drugs due to my desire to try Psilocybe Mushrooms, this was about 2 years ago. I never got to try Mushrooms or any psychedelics up until the 17th of this month, when my 100mg of 4-AcO-DMT arrived in the post. I dosed 10-15mg that day (Trip report: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=504584), then 4 days later I dosed 15-20mg out in nature, and last thursday I dosed 30-35mg (Wasn't increasing doses to tolerance, didn't notice any tolerance, just was slowly upping the intensity) - now I'm of the strong belief that if something is not addictive and not dangerous then the right time to do it is when you have the time, and you feel like doing it. I feel like today or tomorrow would be a good time to dose the rest, but a few people have told me that I shouldn't be tripping so often. 4-AcO-DMT doesn't leave me feeling "fried" the next day or anything, I've not noticed any lack of insight or intensity due to the short span between my dosing, the only thing I notice is that I am able to appreciate the beauty of the world around me much more so than before I tried it now.

So what do you see as tripping too often? Please include reasons.

Looking forward to some interesting responses :)
 
I'm in the boat of tripping every other week due to tolerance, and only if I have the acid available. I do try to find the right place and time though, set and setting. I won't just wake up and drop acid because my tolerance is gone lol.
 
I don't appreciate a trip as much if i do it every or every other weekend, you loose the magic part of it.
And for me that is what I want, that sensational feeling that is so wonderful. I did 4-ho-met pretty often for a while but it's not at all the same thing as taking with greater times apart. The trip gets much more special when you have more time apart.

So i think it have to do with what you want your trips to be, just a high for fun. Then you can do it more or less how often you like except for the tolerance.

But i also have to say that if you trip on different drugs each time you can do it more often.
 
There is no magic number... it's different for everybody, at different times...

Sometimes tripping several days in a row may be appropriate, sometimes waiting a year is appropriate...

It's all about intention... and having a sensitive internal barometer that will indicate whether it's your ego that is seeking satisfaction / entertainment, or rather your higher-self components that are seeking integration, healing, and unity. :)
 
Propyl Power said:
It's all about intention... and having a sensitive internal barometer that will indicate whether it's your ego that is seeking satisfaction / entertainment, or rather your higher-self components that are seeking integration, healing, and unity. :)
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Very well phrased, QFT.
 
I was bi-weekly+ for a little over 2 yrs. Mainly lsd and fungi with a few unkowns thrown in, but I really started to get burned out towards the end - hell, I joined the army to get away from it.

I do not regret any bit of this and my mindset, personality, thoughts on life, etc are all still in line with what I learned during this time.

Now I take lsd 2-3 times a yr and it's usually by myself, on the beach or in the woods, and perfect every time. I call it a soul cleansing and Im usually left in a euphoric positive mindset for a few months after each adventure
 
I havent tripped in like 2 years and the last thing i did was MDMA but ive been drinking alot lol witch im quitting and i think im going to start doing MDMA a little more like every month or so i feel like alcohol is so bad for my body and i used to do e everyday and never had any bad side effects
 
Propyl Power said:
There is no magic number... it's different for everybody, at different times...

Sometimes tripping several days in a row may be appropriate, sometimes waiting a year is appropriate...

It's all about intention... and having a sensitive internal barometer that will indicate whether it's your ego that is seeking satisfaction / entertainment, or rather your higher-self components that are seeking integration, healing, and unity. :)
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Really like this post. You summed up how I feel pretty much, though in the end the day stopped feeling "right" for the trip, so I'm planning on tripping when it feels "right" again, as I believe doing it just when I desire would be as you said, satisfaction for the ego, and little else.
 
It appears to me you're not pursuing a specific goal in your trips or you would have known exactly how often :) Actually I'm all for using psychedelics for the sake of it anyway, there's something inherently curative with them or so I feel. As for the optimum frequency... You might want to space out your trips about enough so as to not let the tolerance build too noticeable. I can't seem to derive any pleasure (or use for that matter) if I partake more than once in a few days. I don't think anybody could predict how long that is in your case...
 
fcuk9000 said:
I havent tripped in like 2 years and the last thing i did was MDMA but ive been drinking alot lol witch im quitting and i think im going to start doing MDMA a little more like every month or so i feel like alcohol is so bad for my body and i used to do e everyday and never had any bad side effects
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I don't think doing e often is any better for you than alcohol.
 
For pretty much all of 2009 I was tripping once a week every week. And sometimes I got up to 3-4 times a week. Now that I havent tripped in 6 months I believe even once a week is too often for me personally. When I am able to explore psychedelics again I think I'll trip bi-weekly to prevent any cloudiness that I experience when I trip too often.
 
When I trip too often I get very burnt out and I get HPPD and dissassociative disorder. My dopamine system is also thrown out of whack by certain psychedelics. I trip when I feel like a trip would be benificel without endangering my mental health, which comes to about once per month. It used to be more often, recently it's been less often. I think it really depends on the person, but you don't want to burn out, or at least, I don't. I hated being burnt out, I literally spent 4 months doing almost nothing once. Like I would wake up, sit there staring and maybe listening to music, maybe go outside for a while, and then go to bed. I've also had dissassociative disorder and HPPD, the former I find to be really, really horrible to have. The latter I don't mind as much, but it's a bitch when you have to accomplish things that are harder to do due to the HPPD. I find that HPPD goes away pretty quickly but that dissassociative disorder can last for months. Acid makes me especially prone to dissassociative disorder for some reason.

I'd say, trip as much as you can without endangering your mental health (HPPD, dissassociative disorder, mental cloudiness, emotional instability, psychosis, constant confusion and burning out being my primary concerns), which varies for different people.
 
my history:

smoked salvia 2 times in the year of 2005
ate mushrooms once in 2006
smoked salvia once in 2006
tried 2c-i, DOC in 2007
4-AcO-MiPT in 2008
mushrooms twice in 2009
mescaline twice in 2009
mushrooms and mescaline once in 2010.


I guess that sounds like a lot, but that's an average of ~2.348594 psychedelic trips a year.

Overall, it depends on you and your goals, or lack thereof.
 
But that often ( the one which isn't often enough) can become too often, it's an illogical minefield & a psychedelic conundrum dressed up as a real question in a virtual reality.

I still admire his self control
 
In my early 20's it used to be every weekend just about, but as I've gotten older, I've found that there is no regular patten of use - using a psychedelic is purely dependant upon where, when and with whom (I haven't tripped since Xmas, when I had a dose of 2C-TFM, but a couple of years ago at a festival, I spent the whole 5 days on AMT, topping it up whenever seemed right with DPT and/or ketamine)

People might think themselves immune, but the vast majority of people will start to develop symptoms of strange/delusional thinking
 
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