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NEWS: Nurofen + etc to be made Prescription only!!!

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^ Yeah dude, me and a friend attempted to stock up starting about 2 months before the ban. Honestly I went through all my stockpiles before the ban even took place and if my mate hadn't went through her share by then it would of been a few days after! I really think the few months I had to stock up ramped up my habit because of always having it laying around. Its weird because the more I use the stuff the more I get out of it, even though technically I am getting less from it it just feels like its hitting the spot, you know.
 
^ Yeah tell me about it mate. Really can't afford any more of an opiate habit than I have right now on top of my drinking, pot smoking and benzo abuse though so I am fairly confident that for the time being my use is going to be going backwards, not forwards.

I am expecting a little bit more morphine and tramadol to use in the near future but after that I think I will be keeping my opioid fun to just codeine for a little while and only once a week, twice tops. I need a tolerance reset and better numbers in the bank. The other week I used opiates (heroin and codeine) for 4 days in a row and upon cessation seemed to get an annoying episode of depression, couldn't tell if it was my usual shit a little worse than usual or mild opiate withdrawals, I did have sore legs whilst lying in bed for the first two days which is what made me suspect W/D even though it would otherwise seem unlikely.

I actually recently just managed to ween myself off physical dependance on alcohol (I have since fucked this up :() and my run on opiates was just after this. I do wonder if possibly the fact I had just kicked physical dependance on another drug made me more prone for dependance to set in for opiates, all I can do is speculate really, but in future I will avoid dosing 4 days in a row.
 
Seith said:
I bought a heap of packs online and had everything planned out, told myself these should last 4 months. Think I went through the lot in a ~month.
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I'm in exactly the same situation! I polished off the last of my stockpile last night... a truly disgusting amount of codeine in the last two months :( I don't have much self-control. Funny though that I wouldn't have had such a big cache and hence not taken it almost daily had it not been for the rescheduling. Oh well it's due time for some chemical abstinence for me to let my health (and bowels) recover %)

drug mentor said:
... I actually recently just managed to ween myself off physical dependance on alcohol (I have since fucked this up ) and my run on opiates was just after this. I do wonder if possibly the fact I had just kicked physical dependance on another drug made me more prone for dependance to set in for opiates, all I can do is speculate really, but in future I will avoid dosing 4 days in a row.
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Interesting that you should mention that; one of the reasons I was taking codeine on weeknights was to cut down on drinking. It worked for a while too.
 
boodha said:
people talking about going on subs for codeine, I think this would be a mistake, you would most likely get seriously high from subs and end up doing harder opiates, codeine to subs is a massive step up. it would be like jumping out of the pan into the fire! imho
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Can go on as low as 0.4mg doses, whilst it might be a stronger opiate it is the fact you are no longer chasing the rush and you can stabilise. That is the key, not just simply replacing the opiate.

Then once you no longer want to get high and don't have the physical withdrawal issues you can slowly jump off.
 
^yeah i never felt comfortable with the thought of people going on ORT for a codeine for the main reason kicking codeine is a lot easier and shorter process than coming off bupe.

but miniscule doses of .2-4.mg would be more than suffiicient, the patient may be even lucky and only have to dose evert couple of days. sure their tolerance may build slightly but this doesn't last long as tolerance factors in along with dropping doses.

i really don't have a bad word to say about bupe as a maintenance, detox or pain management drug, it rawks%)
 
yeah 2-3 weeks of detox with 0.2-0.4mg suboxone would be great way to kick it I imagine.

but a lot of people here will take months to get out of the 'i want to get high all the time' mindset so I think it should be extended for up to 6 months so they get used to the 'sober' life style before kicking it.

That is the best way to prevent relapse.
 
i agree with the desire to still want to get high for a period following maintenace, which is exactly why once i either find a methadone or bupe presriber for my PM i won't be going back to the more traditional "let's get high" opiates.

it all comes down to the users desire and want to quit. if they're not ready and relapse there's no shame because the relapse rate of opiate addicts is rather high. get back out there and give it another shot.
 
^ Good luck in your efforts to kick the "lets get high" opiates as you put it. ;)

I suppose I can see how bupe would be useful adjusting to a sober lifestyle, I do think though that someone could just as easily do a taper with the codeine and they probably wouldn't have the same chance of increasing their tolerance/dependance before attempting to quit. I admit this isn't something I am heaps clued up on, but to me it seems codeine is a much less physically addictive drug than bupe.
 
ahh, there will be planned holidays, don't worry;) but back on topic anyway;)

i read that someone has bought a 48pack the other day, strangely enough i picked one up today as well:\ bitch was real narky at the start, even after i told her i wanted a 24pack, that the 48's require a prescription and i let her know i was aware. then she hands me a 48 pack?!? she was a new chick there too so i don't think she was too clued into my usual scripts of valium and morphine i pick up from there...
 
^ Score huh. Wish one of these stinking pharmacies would hand me out a 48 pack. I have switched up the places I am going to, and am copping a lot less attitude from my new haunts which is good atleast. :D
 
^ I gotta second this, I don't have anything personal against you slipknot but post whores just clutter the forum up with needless trash. I don't expect every single post I read is going to be a full on big spiel full of solid HR info but I do question the need for multiple posts in a very short space of time that say nothing more than "LOL". What do you feel you are contributing or achieving, if anything?
 
Lefty you got a 48 pack? Awesome, I wish somewhere here in Brisbane would hand them out, maybe I should try and get served by trainees when I go for a run. :)
 
^ Fuck that, its expensive enough dosing 60 every time buying 30 packs. Scam artists these bloody pharmacists are! Bet you after a year if they tally up codeine sales and compare them to before the new regulations the amount of pills sold will be nearly equal but the profits they made much higher.
 
I'm guessing the chemist that sold me that 48 pack had a heap of excess 48 pack sized boxes and was being a bit sneaky trying to get rid of them. That or the person serving me didn't know about the rescheduling, but still there shouldn't be prescription medication directly behind the counter on the shelves before the ones further back with the scripted meds. The 48 pack they sold me was that particular chemist's brand of ibu/codeine and they didn't have the little bit of sticky-tape closing the flap on the side of the box that is usually there.

Went to two different places today and could only get 15s or 30s, so I'm not sure whats up with that other chemist, I sure won't be complaining though :) Maybe pharamacies can still legally get rid of stock that they bought prior to the changes. /shrug
 
I wouldn't rule out that the person who served you just wasn't aware of the changes, I had a pharmacist the other day who told me to go and get them off the shelves when the boxes were lined up right behind her
 
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Lol, never had that happen. You're probably right though, she was young and probably an assistant so may not have been up to speed on the changes. Just strange seeing a row of 48 packs amongst all the codeine based stuff a month after it was meant to have been taken down.
 
Crankinit said:
I wouldn't rule out that the person who served you just wasn't aware of the changes, I had a pharmacist the other day who told me to go and get them off the shelves when the boxes were lined up right behind her
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Ive had a "newbie" person working in the chemist trying to tell me that panafen +, nurofen plus and etc etc are all prescription only. I had to argue with her for a good 2 mins before she directed me to the person behind the counter. Was a joke thinking to myself.
 
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