Got some generic nurofen + today and the price wasnt to much different then before but this chemist has always been very good with prices. Funny I had no anxiety problems today as I was buying legitimately for a nasty migraine but when I'm buying for recreational fun I go into full panic mode lol.
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NEWS: Nurofen + etc to be made Prescription only!!!
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Sustanon
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They have become my favorite, they come in 15s and 30s. Just as good as chemist owns but tastes way better. I just wish i had tried em before. Thank u codeine restriction for showing me new things lol
How do well do they extract compared to the N+? Shit thing with CO is you can taste the codeine on the tablet and they are hard to swallow as they are fairly large.
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Bluelighter
N+ is shit. P+ (if thats what u have) filters very well. Just as well as CO. I think its the paracetamol that tastes bad thats why CO tastes very bad. If i would of knew i would of always stuck with P+. Good luck with it dude. Report back on how it worked out for u.
Ps: Not sure why ud want to eat CO or any other pills when ur extractin?
fivelinefury
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Yup. I'm prescribed diazepam everyday and needed some panadeine extra today for my headaches/neck tension I pretty much always suffer from so I prolly aimed a little to high today/tonight
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
drug_mentor
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I have to agree that from what I have read about subs it would be foolish for one to get on them in an attempt to kick codeine. Why get on a harder opiate to kick a weaker one? Especially since codeine is legal and cheap anyway.
Crankinit, from a HR perspective I would say start off an opiate naive person on 200mg or less. That said, the few people I have turned on to it only really enjoyed it at doses 350mg or above, I have been doing a LOT of reading on codeine lately and theres some forums where people crap on its dangerous to combine like 120mg codeine with 5-10mg valium and the like. My experience has never been that anyone would get any appreciable effects at such low doses. I tried CWE a few times like 5 years ago, always at doses below 200mg and it didn't take me many attempts at those doses to decide it wasn't for me. It was years later I decided to try higher doses and thats when I fell in love with it.
Codeine is really hard to determine what to start people on, because there is the odd person that can't handle the nausea from low doses, but I always feel as though if I don't get a decent dose in someone on their first or second try their probably going to write it off as shit. You know your friend better than us, if they have used a reasonable amount of drugs in the past, particularly if they have opioid experience, and aren't the type to be overly sensitive I would aim for 300-350. If there isn't much to go by then keeping it at 200 or under is the smartest thing from a HR perspective.
I would like to comment on mr ibis saying diphenhydramine was a good potentiator for opiates. I am not sure if this is allowed but I am not naming specific sources or prices so I will try my luck, if anyone is interested in diphenhydramine you can buy it behind the counter under the brand name 'snuzaid', It is an OTC sleep aid similar to restavit, the pack is almost identical but it says snuzaid insted of restavit and all the parts of the restavit box that are green are blue on the snuzaid box. I am pretty sure theres 10 in a box but it might be 20, they contain 50mg diphenhydramine.
I happened upon these when one of my regular pharmacies had run out of restavit. When I first read of using antihistamines to potentiate opiates diphenhydramine seemed to be the most commonly mentioned by Americans but I had trouble finding it.
Anyway, I am sure the masses of people aren't wrong that overall diphenhydramine is a great potentiator for opiates, but the only opiate I have used it with is codeine and it kills the high. I read it inhibited CYP2D6, much like promethazine. I favour restavit because I can dose it before my codeine and never have to deal with the full extent of the itch, stuff like promethazine annoys me because I have to deal with the initial itch.
Anyway, I have never had a problem with promethazine killing my high if I wait about half an hour after drinking my codeine to take it. Anyway the one and only time I used diphenhydramine to potentiate codeine I used it in the same manner I have promethazine in the past, waited 30 minutes or so after dosing my codeine to take the antihistamine. My codeine was just starting to come on when I took it and within 15-20 minutes my high was totally dead, like not only did it not continue to come up but the mild initial feeling I had was gone too. It is a fucking antihistamine and the only effect of the codeine I could still notice was the itches! It was extremely frustrating. I have kept the diphen to try with other opiates, I have used heroin and morphine lately but since I have been combining them with codeine I haven't tried it yet.
Anyway, this ended up a bit of a rant. But yeah, I don't personally reccomend anyone tries diphenhydramine with codeine. If you are determined to try it wait as long as you can after drinking your CWE solution.
Crankinit, from a HR perspective I would say start off an opiate naive person on 200mg or less. That said, the few people I have turned on to it only really enjoyed it at doses 350mg or above, I have been doing a LOT of reading on codeine lately and theres some forums where people crap on its dangerous to combine like 120mg codeine with 5-10mg valium and the like. My experience has never been that anyone would get any appreciable effects at such low doses. I tried CWE a few times like 5 years ago, always at doses below 200mg and it didn't take me many attempts at those doses to decide it wasn't for me. It was years later I decided to try higher doses and thats when I fell in love with it.
Codeine is really hard to determine what to start people on, because there is the odd person that can't handle the nausea from low doses, but I always feel as though if I don't get a decent dose in someone on their first or second try their probably going to write it off as shit. You know your friend better than us, if they have used a reasonable amount of drugs in the past, particularly if they have opioid experience, and aren't the type to be overly sensitive I would aim for 300-350. If there isn't much to go by then keeping it at 200 or under is the smartest thing from a HR perspective.
I would like to comment on mr ibis saying diphenhydramine was a good potentiator for opiates. I am not sure if this is allowed but I am not naming specific sources or prices so I will try my luck, if anyone is interested in diphenhydramine you can buy it behind the counter under the brand name 'snuzaid', It is an OTC sleep aid similar to restavit, the pack is almost identical but it says snuzaid insted of restavit and all the parts of the restavit box that are green are blue on the snuzaid box. I am pretty sure theres 10 in a box but it might be 20, they contain 50mg diphenhydramine.
I happened upon these when one of my regular pharmacies had run out of restavit. When I first read of using antihistamines to potentiate opiates diphenhydramine seemed to be the most commonly mentioned by Americans but I had trouble finding it.
Anyway, I am sure the masses of people aren't wrong that overall diphenhydramine is a great potentiator for opiates, but the only opiate I have used it with is codeine and it kills the high. I read it inhibited CYP2D6, much like promethazine. I favour restavit because I can dose it before my codeine and never have to deal with the full extent of the itch, stuff like promethazine annoys me because I have to deal with the initial itch.
Anyway, I have never had a problem with promethazine killing my high if I wait about half an hour after drinking my codeine to take it. Anyway the one and only time I used diphenhydramine to potentiate codeine I used it in the same manner I have promethazine in the past, waited 30 minutes or so after dosing my codeine to take the antihistamine. My codeine was just starting to come on when I took it and within 15-20 minutes my high was totally dead, like not only did it not continue to come up but the mild initial feeling I had was gone too. It is a fucking antihistamine and the only effect of the codeine I could still notice was the itches! It was extremely frustrating. I have kept the diphen to try with other opiates, I have used heroin and morphine lately but since I have been combining them with codeine I haven't tried it yet.
Anyway, this ended up a bit of a rant. But yeah, I don't personally reccomend anyone tries diphenhydramine with codeine. If you are determined to try it wait as long as you can after drinking your CWE solution.
belarki
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^ regarding diphenhydramine, it's also in an OTC product called unisom (gel caps).... I tend to save them for insomnia though. I find it more effective than doxylamine to get me to sleep but you get tolerant to it quickly too. They work out at about twice the price of restavit per dose though. Also an antihistamine like doxylamine and promethazine.
Sameria
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I've taken Promethatzine on 2 occasions to potentiate Codeine.
The first time I had 25mg Promethazine half an hour before dosing 210mg Codeine. The second time I dosed 25mg Promethazine an hour after 210mg Codeine.
Both times I had a severally dulled high. Almost nothing to mention of. The Promethazine sedation completely took over the Codeine for me. Don't think I'll be "potentiating" with Promethazine again :/
The first time I had 25mg Promethazine half an hour before dosing 210mg Codeine. The second time I dosed 25mg Promethazine an hour after 210mg Codeine.
Both times I had a severally dulled high. Almost nothing to mention of. The Promethazine sedation completely took over the Codeine for me. Don't think I'll be "potentiating" with Promethazine again :/
footscrazy
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Panafen Plus seems to be selling out in a few chemists...I suppose all the CWE'ers have realised it's the best choice these days 
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25mg is probably way too high a dose. I've only ever used 5mg and I find that completely kills the nausea with only a very slight sedation.
drug_mentor
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Crankinit promethazine has NEVER killed the high for me personally, but I have never taken it before drinking my CWE, only 3-45 minutes afterwards. In theory diphenhydramine should not kill the high when taken in a similar manner but it did for me. I am pretty certain promethazine inhibits CYP2D6 so if you are taking it before codeine you probably are wasting some even if it doesn't totally kill it for you.
Its nice to see you have some input in here footscrazy, as an avid CWE'er you should drop into the thread more often. I went to a few chemists today and several were sold out of panafen. I am starting to wonder if it is because of CWE or just the fact everyone is shitty at the packet restrictions and panafen works out more cost effectively than nurofen. One chemist told me today they just didn't stock generic brands and was somehow surprised when I told him I would be going elsewhere. What kind of shit pharmacy doesn't stock the generic of such a popular product?!
I am pretty tempted to make one tonight but I really shouldn't, tolerance is becoming an issue again due to boosting my codeine with other opiates like heroin and morphine. I really should try save the coin too, a codeine habit really is a lot more painful on the wallet these days....
Its nice to see you have some input in here footscrazy, as an avid CWE'er you should drop into the thread more often.
I went to a few chemists today and several were sold out of panafen. I am starting to wonder if it is because of CWE or just the fact everyone is shitty at the packet restrictions and panafen works out more cost effectively than nurofen. One chemist told me today they just didn't stock generic brands and was somehow surprised when I told him I would be going elsewhere. What kind of shit pharmacy doesn't stock the generic of such a popular product?!I am pretty tempted to make one tonight but I really shouldn't, tolerance is becoming an issue again due to boosting my codeine with other opiates like heroin and morphine. I really should try save the coin too, a codeine habit really is a lot more painful on the wallet these days....
drug_mentor
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Shit, I just read that last post. 5mg of promethazine?! How do you even measure that out? Somehow I don't think such a dose would be effective for me as when I have used it I take 25-50mg. I always use 50mg of doxy or 25 doxy plus a travalcam which contains hyoscine, atropine and dimenhydrinate 50mg, I can't remember exact doses of the atropine and hyoscine.
Not dick sizing, I have just never used less than 25mg of any of these antihistamines and usually its 50mg and even still I get pretty itchy. I have a hard time imagining anyone getting much relief from itches or nausea from 5mg, but I could be way off...
Not dick sizing, I have just never used less than 25mg of any of these antihistamines and usually its 50mg and even still I get pretty itchy. I have a hard time imagining anyone getting much relief from itches or nausea from 5mg, but I could be way off...
Sameria
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I was sick at the time so i had a fair tolerance to Promethazine. It developes so quickly.
I usually just but the larger phenergan tablets and splt them into quarters.
Crankinit
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Maybe I'm just ultra sensitive to it then? I was having horrible issues with nausea so I started taking 10mg promethazine before I dosed, worked like a charm but made the high a little dirty so I started cutting the pills in half, still works perfectly without as much additional sedation.
puckboy
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I went into a pharmacy today and managed to get a 48 pack of ibuprofen/codeine(12.8mg). I thought 24 or 30 was the maximum now they could sell? The girl asked me straight up, if I wanted the 24 or the 48 pack. The shelves behind the counter had plenty more of the 48s too, which has me confused considering other pharmacies I've been to since May 1st only offered the 24 packs. Doesn't seem to be much of a consistency between different pharmacies. This is WA btw.
drug_mentor
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^ That is weird, I only had one place sell me a higher than legal amount and it was literally May 1st. They sold me a box of 100 codalgin brand pills which are 8mg codeine phosphate and 500mg paracetamol each. It was the second last 100 pack they had. I went back about a week later and the very same 100 box was sitting there, I asked to purchase it and the pharmacist informed me I couldn't purchase codalgin without a prescription, even in 24 packs, but she would sell me panadeine which is identical but more expensive and takes longer to dissolve and filter. I am in Victoria. Also, I always get 30 packs of ibuprofen/codeine products but have never been offered or seen 40 packs of paracetamol/codeine products even though they are supposedly available and would probably be slightly more cost efficient and convenient.
I haven't ended up making one tonight, exercised self restraint for once. I do sort of wish I had made one but its for the best I didn't.
I haven't ended up making one tonight, exercised self restraint for once. I do sort of wish I had made one but its for the best I didn't.
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drug_mentor
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^ Thats what I am telling myself that and the fact I really can't afford the level of drugs that I am taking and if I don't step back now and do something about it it wont be long before I am in some serious financial strife. I know its just one night but one night increasingly has the tendency to become a few.
that and the fact I really can't afford the level of drugs that I am taking and if I don't step back now and do something about it it wont be long before I am in some serious financial strife. I know its just one night but one night increasingly has the tendency to become a few.
Seith
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I bought a heap of packs online and had everything planned out, told myself these should last 4 months. Think I went through the lot in a ~month.
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