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Doc will script me anything - recommendations?

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After a year and a half on dilaudid, it's basically lost it's charm. My doc is very open minded and is essentially open to letting me try anything if it even remotely can be argued that it might help with my back pain (muscle relaxants, etc).

Obviously I want something that also has good recreational potential. Note I now have a very high opiate tolerance, so I'm not sure more opiates is the answer.

But I'm not really familiar with anything else so I thought I'd ask - if your doc was willing to give you any script, what would you ask for?

Maybe something that works well in conjunction with opiates?

I have no idea!
 
I was about to recommend Hydro's but then I read that you've already used it. I'd go for Oxycontin.
 
Yeah, I seriously have no idea what to ask my doc to try. This is exactly why I'm here, to seek advice, opinion and learn. Am I supposed to pretend I don't also have a recreational interest?

At least i can do it from an educated standpoint. If I am breaking any rules with this request please explain it to me.
 
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He's not breaking any rules, he's just asking what we think the best pharm is to be prescribed.
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That is against the rules. No doctor scam questions and no "What should I take?" questions are two rules that it breaks just off the top of my head. Then there would be the self-serving thing. Possibly more. Read the BLUA and work it out yourself.
 
Theres only so many opiate pharms to try for pain. Hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine, methadone, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, fentanyl. Ive been on every pharm opiate in the last three years except levorphanol. If your favorite is diluadid and its not getting the job done for you anymore at seemingly whatever high the dose then my guess is your tolerance has just gotten way too high and your body has gotten much too used to high doses of opiates.
 
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This is against the rules and if you actually need opiates for your pain abusing them or any other meds for your pain will likely come back to bite you in the ass.

But hey some Zuclopenthixol might be worth a try =D
 
John_Burrows said:
After a year and a half on dilaudid, it's basically lost it's charm. My doc is very open minded and is essentially open to letting me try anything if it even remotely can be argued that it might help with my back pain (muscle relaxants, etc).

Obviously I want something that also has good recreational potential. Note I now have a very high opiate tolerance, so I'm not sure more opiates is the answer.

But I'm not really familiar with anything else so I thought I'd ask - if your doc was willing to give you any script, what would you ask for?

Maybe something that works well in conjunction with opiates?

I have no idea!
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Muscle relaxers are prescribed for back pain to relieve spasms and tightness, you could ask for something like flexeril or baclofen which may help as a potentiator. I use baclofen, I prefer it because it can be railed. You could try gabapentin for nerve pain if you have any of that. I havent found much that really potentiates enough to make a difference, likely because of my tolerance already being on a very very high dose.

Honestly and unfortunately though if you have a very high tolerance to opiates usually more and more of them is the only answer unless maybe you change to one that is stronger and more potent. If you have a serious pain problem and have to use multiple times every day theres not much you can do but accept things the way they are. If you can deal with the pain without the opiates then your best hope would be to lower your tolerance again. The problem with that is it is very very hard to lower your intake when your tolerance and usage is sky high.
 
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Try Opana. Its about twice as strong as Oxycontin and should help manage your pain.

Sure, this might be against the rules, but he needs meds for pain. I'm going to respond. If he had created a thread titled 'what helps back pain?" would you close that too? Just trying to help a member in need.
 
skoat said:
Try Opana. Its about twice as strong as Oxycontin and should help manage your pain.

Sure, this might be against the rules, but he needs meds for pain. I'm going to respond. If he had created a thread titled 'what helps back pain?" would you close that too? Just trying to help a member in need.
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Oxymorphone is a major metablite of oxycodone


So why even bother with oxycodone?
 
skoat said:
Try Opana. Its about twice as strong as Oxycontin and should help manage your pain.

Sure, this might be against the rules, but he needs meds for pain. I'm going to respond. If he had created a thread titled 'what helps back pain?" would you close that too? Just trying to help a member in need.
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Opana is twice the strength of oxycodone when taken orally, but much much more so than that when its railed. At least 4 times and more like 6 to 8 times.
 
Nexius said:
Oxymorphone is a major metablite of oxycodone


So why even bother with oxycodone?
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It is interesting. I used oxycodone for about 10 months before switching to oxymorphone which Ive been on for well over a year now.I think recreationally both highs feel basically the same but I have seen people say they think they feel different. Usually its oxycodone was more active while oxymorphone was more sedating, but I really think a lot of that has to do with the enormous difference in strength. They feel the same to me except oxymorphone is like oxycodone on steroids, its just mg per mg much more potent, and its great for pain relief.
 
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thx for clarifying Nikolai. I'm prescribed Soma 350mg 2x daily and its great for back pain. I'd certainly mention Soma to your Doctor if I were you.
 
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=494270

Going from what you say in the above post, which is similiar to this one, I really think your tolerance is too far gone and if youre in it for the high then your best bet is to lower your tolerance. Go a long period on just what you need to avoid WD. Im the same as you basically, I cant get the highs I did 2 years ago, but Ive sort of learned to accept it.

I got to a point around 18 months ago where I was taking at least 80mg's+ of oxymorphone with each use multiple times per day. I could not get high no matter what I did. What made matters worse was that as the tolerance gradually rose it also took much more to get my pain under control. It was a vicious cycle that got so bad that I needed major help. I got lucky because I had another operation I had to go through as this happened and it gave me a chance to break the cycle with the hospital stay. My dose was also raised when I was able to leave the hospital, since then I never go over a certain dose when I use. I am still able to use a very high amount every few hours but a rush of euphoria happens only occasional. Those days of awesome highs all the time are over, but they were good while they lasted.

I know its not what you want to hear, but you may be at that same point. I think the best way to use opiates recreationally is to not use them everyday or possibly only use once or maybe twice a day.
 
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