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PD's Big & Dandy 5-IAI Thread

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Would someone please give us a Marquis/Mecke test result already? Hell, nobody seems to have any idea what they're taking. I wouldn't be surprised if most -- even all -- of these trip reports are posted by vendors.

"White crystals" does not constitute a useful description of a chemical.

hx_ said:
Why is it the only people able to get this promising, rare and completely new drug are idiots who don't even own scales and who just go for "3 medium lines" of a brand new substance.
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This. Also, funny that they all seem to be from newbies with around four or five posts, who all claim enthusiastically that it is similar to 4-MMC.

Also, as I posted in the other thread, this stuff was found to substitute for MDMA at 0.65 mg/kg and for MBDB [1] at 0.79 mg/kg. That means doses should be like 50-70 mg [2] -- not 100-200 like some people have claimed to take. This, I think, makes their reports quite suspect, and also puts anyone who takes those reports at face value at risk.

[1]: BDB is better than MBDB in nearly every way. How the latter became more popular than the former I will never understand.

[2]: I don't know what dosage of MDMA the rats were trained with, though. mg/kg are actually usually higher in rats than in humans, from what little I can recall (e.g. paracetamol rodent LD50 is 2g / kg, whereas in humans it is closer to a fifth of that). The active human dosage could really be quite different!
 
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That's unfortunate, that the only info so far is as anecdotal is you can get.

Please! Just buy a scale, the damned things don't cost that much. Look at the thread we got for it, you can go 60$ or 100$ or buy a professional thing but if you must, there are ones available for under 30$ including shipping and they are even quite decent as 0.001g scales!

I hear they tend to break down far faster than good quality scales, so there's that but at least you can be responsible if you only experiment with RCs on few occasions.

If you experiment regularly I find it quite ignorant and irresponsible to pay all that money for compounds but refrain from laying down a buck or two for a scale that might save you from disaster.
Not to mention reports actually have value then.

Sorry to be a ball-buster but it's said enough around PD, with new compounds it's not a bad idea to emphasize all this.
 
I've just received some (1g) in the post and tried 15mg under the tongue. Anyone got any ideas what the dose should be like? 30 mins have past and I don't notice anything yet, but I have built up quite a high tolerance from mephedrone.

The powder I have is not crystallised, but the smell seems quite like that of methylone and it looks slightly off-white.
 
atara said:
Would someone please give us a Marquis/Mecke test result already? Hell, nobody seems to have any idea what they're taking. I wouldn't be surprised if most -- even all -- of these trip reports are posted by vendors.

"White crystals" does not constitute a useful description of a chemical.
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A good point. Unfortunately my kit has not aged well and had to be thrown away. Will look into investing in a replacement if we are going to be sampling various new and relatively unknown chemicals.


Also, as I posted in the other thread, this stuff was found to substitute for MDMA at 0.65 mg/kg and for MBDB [1] at 0.79 mg/kg. That means doses should be like 50-70 mg [2] -- not 100-200 like some people have claimed to take. This, I think, makes their reports quite suspect, and also puts anyone who takes those reports at face value at risk.
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Would those figures for MDMA and MBDB be effected by route of administration? ie: 50-70mg IV would, I guess, compare with 100-200mg orally.
 
I should be receiving 1 gram of "5-iai" soon. I'm going sample it orally to begin with at 50mg or follow any guidelines I'm given for dosage.

Is a melting point known for this substance, I don't have the marquis test and I'm low on cash but I could before a old fashoined MP test since I have e equipment.

This however could also be useless if it has an extremely high MP, I'd carry out 3 and see how the results go.
 
^might be a lot safer to start off with significantly less than 50mg, as you don't even know if it is 5-IAI and even if it is, it's still better to be safe than sorry.....
 
50 mg was insufflated a few hours later. A definite uplift in mood, increased desire to listen to music, and feelings of hunger are less noticeable. Perhaps like taking MDMA but not quite enough to get 'rolling'. This lasts for 1-2 hours then trickles away, so the half-life would seem to be fairly short. No dilation of pupils, but I feel my heart rate increased, however this could be because of anxiety.

I intend to try again tomorrow with maybe 75-100mg.
 
J_I_M_B_O said:
50 mg was insufflated a few hours later. A definite uplift in mood, increased desire to listen to music, and feelings of hunger are less noticeable. Perhaps like taking MDMA but not quite enough to get 'rolling'. This lasts for 1-2 hours then trickles away, so the half-life would seem to be fairly short. No dilation of pupils, but I feel my heart rate increased, however this could be because of anxiety.
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Interesting… thanks. :)

Can I ask if you have suffered from anxiety in the past and if it has only been bought on by drugs?
 
I do generally have anxiety, but certain stimulants really do push like methylphenidate. I was rather anxious anyway because I couldn't really find any suggested doses and was rather hoping it wasn't active at the sub-mg level. Then I read on wikipedia it was 'speculated' to be a potent monamine oxidase inhibitor, but that isn't referenced.

What I have really does smell of methylone (what I can remember the non-crystallised stuff smelled like) but I had to rail at least 200mg to even begin experiencing it, so maybe the smell is coincidence. I predict by tomorrow a few more people would be filing reports as I can't be the only one who got it off that site.
 
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^might be a lot safer to start off with significantly less than 50mg, as you don't even know if it is 5-IAI and even if it is, it's still better to be safe than sorry.....
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True due to chemical like NGR-1 and other potent chems around. Though I'm probably already skipping a step thinking about dose when I can't even be sure I'll even get anything from the vicious vendors.
 
Those that have 5-IAI, what colour and texture is it?

The thing is we have no way to know if what they are sending out is 5-IAI or another chemical they cannot shift under it's proper name.

It's not unknown for an unscrupulous chinaman to send what he purports to be something and then when it is tested turns out to be something completely different.
 
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I'm not convinced just yet. At 50mg the 'effect' wore off fairly quick. If decent effects are present at above 50mg, then I can see fiending. We'll soon see.
 
I had not a bad time last night, a few beers, and doing 50mg sufflated about every 30-45minutes until it ran out. I wouldnt describe it as fantastic because of the low doses, but almost felt like it was go to roll like mdma after a few redoses. The comedown wasn't too bad either :) and it didn't burn.

It's no wonder customs are seizing all the shipments.
 
J_I_M_B_O said:
I had not a bad time last night, a few beers, and doing 50mg sufflated about every 30-45minutes until it ran out. I wouldnt describe it as fantastic because of the low doses, but almost felt like it was go to roll like mdma after a few redoses. The comedown wasn't too bad either :) and it didn't burn.

It's no wonder customs are seizing all the shipments.
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Sounds good mate! Except the 'until I ran out' part =D

Still, sounds like one I'll try. Is it true this is being sold as NRG2? I know that's impossible to answer properly but some people are quite adament it is on certain sites.
 
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