Comtemplating indulging.

[CherryPoppinz]

Being raised Catholic from birth id say I was sort of forced into religion and didnt have a say in anything to do with my own spiritual belief, thus leading me too believe that no religion was more right than the other which pretty much lead me to the conclusion that there is no god.

After reading and watching many accounts of people with psychedelic experiences and how they encountered/sensed/and even communicated with higher beings and entities has made me very interested in indulging in these drugs, im somewhat afraid that my perspective of life will be too warped though, this doesnt change the fact that im still very interested in tripping and plan on doing so in the near future.

How much did it change your view on reality/life/etc and if you could describe how so? how are things different from before?

Ive read/watched so much shit on LSD and mushrooms I probably know more about the experience, scientific aspect of it than 90% of its users did when trying it for the first time.

Im just really interested in the whole shabang and would really like to get to know how psychedelics changed your reality and how you view things...I do plan on tripping with a sitter whome I trust, in a good environment too keep me from having a bad trip, somtimes I feel as though the experience might be too much for me to handle from hearing what others say.

Also I have a question on wether I should try acid or shrooms for the first time, which would be better? Id probably dose 1 hit and see how I feel after an hour then dose another, or gram then wait an hour and eat another gram, is okay?

Thanks for any opinions and responses.

 

[malakaix]

I was born into an atheist family, which ironically sent me to a christian school due to it been the closest 'private' school in the area. I can't say i was swayed much by the school's efforts to convert me, and eventually stuck with the idea of atheism.

That was, up until i started using psychedelics.. which sent me down a rocky roller-coaster of psychological twists and turns.

I started with LSD first, i personally would recommend it to begin with over mushrooms.. as i find mushrooms can get quite dark and twisted with little to no rational 'relief', LSD however allows you to carefully rationalize through any issues brought up from the depths of your consciousness, that said over time my personal preference has changed to mushrooms and DMT as i find them much more spiritually rewarding.

LSD broke down my views on society,money,family and the whole structure of the 'system' that has become a common part of our daily lives, it was like the curtains been lifted and me peering into the backstage and seeing how everything 'really' works. This had a major effect on how i view possessions and materialism in general.. and allowed me to prioritize what i truly needed, and what was just filling a void in my life.

Mushrooms! I've only dosed mushrooms 7-8 times opposed to LSD which is in excess of 60+ this is merely due to availability. However, mushrooms worked heavily on my emotional response's to the world and genuinely how i 'feel' about myself as a person, i felt very deep-rooted connections to nature and people around me, it allowed for my primal 'animalistic' instincts to show themselves and be embraced.

However, the psychedelic that had a life-changing effect on me was DMT. This opened up my spirituality in a way i cannot even begin to describe, it changed how i understand the concept of 'god' how i view reality, the universe and myself. It sent me onto the path of meditation, a change in eating habits, lifestyle changes, quitting cigarettes and a complete overhaul of how i treat people.

I want to point out though, it didn't change immediately.. it was a conscious decision on my behalf to make these major change's to my life over time, but the experience itself allowed for me to see reason for making these changes.

This is just a short description of various psychedelics and there impact on my life, i was the same in the sense that i read and watched alot of information on these drugs before using them and knew my intentions for doing so, it seems like you do as-well.. so i think it'll be a very positive experience, even if it does turn sour im certain you will gain wisdom.

Much love

 

[Sega420]

OP, look into the hindu philosophies, that stuff will blow your mind.

 

[shaddi]

maybe taking the drugs will make you realize the truth (Islam)

 

[Black]

i was an atheist before i took psychedelics, but as i used them more i became slightly spiritual believing that there must be 'something out there' (or in here ). one especially strong trip really shook me up and made me think a lot about life, the universe and everything. that led me to find my own belief system which i later found out was almost identical to buddhist teachings.
my views on society weren't really changed by psychedelics, but that may be because my parents were hippies back then

i'd agree with malakaix and recommend lsd over mushrooms. lsd is a much more stable and linear experience, has a lighter feel and a slight positive push, while i find mushrooms to be darker, more confusing and less predictable. of course ymmv.

starting with one hit is a good idea, but redosing is not. if you redose early you cannot judge how intense your experience would have been if you hadn't redosed and easily end up taking way too much. i speak from experience here as a redosed another half hit as i was coming up on my first trip and had a quite intense and uncomfortable trip. if you redose later it will not make your trip more intense, but will only extend the duration.
a better solution is to wait a few weeks and try again with a higher initial dose then.

 

[psychomimetic]

^I find mushrooms to be way lighter then acid, but that's just me I guess. In my opinion you should start with mescaline ( which is probably legal within some plant medium in the place you live) as a first psychedelic. Then I think either mushrooms or acid is a good place to move, but for me, mushrooms would have been ideal as a second psychedelic. If you have access to a broader range of drugs I would recomend perhaps starting with 2C-B, DMT or perhaps a candyflip or hippyflip (I actually think candyflip would be a better first trip then a hippyflip).

I'm an atheist and fairly unspiritual (I don't believe in souls, metaphysics not based in science, religion, etc). Psychedelics did however make me a lot more compassionate, peaceful and happy, which could easily be construed as spiritual development, and in many ways I feel that it was the equivalent of spiritual development for someone who holds the beliefs I do about existence.

Psychedelics could easily make you more spiritual, and a valuable spiritual tool for many people. For me they definitly have aided in reaching an understanding of existence and I feel they have helped me in personal advancement as a human.

 

[ford442]

i appreciate how psychedelics strip away all preconception of reality and make you live in the moment.. really in the moment where you react as your inner being wants to.. then you can observe existence as a human through impartial eyes... i have learned from tripping that in the present moment lies the message and meaning of the universe.. if you consider it to have a meaning..

 

[BenzoGuinea]

I am color blind so I understand differences in perception. When someone tells you one thing and your mind says another it can lead to you questioning everything. After my first LSD trip I realized my differences in perception were very small compared to what the brain is capable of. I became, more tolerant, spiritual, and had a whole new outlook on the universe as a whole. The thing you need to question is your psychological strength. Some can handle some can't. Try small doses of mushrooms first. Mushrooms are much mentally cleaner while LSD can leave you feeling dirty in the head.

 

[greenmeanies]

hmm, i would say that mushrooms are VERY spiritual.

my ++++ ego death on mushyhuasca had me so delusional i thought I was the second coming of christ

 

[The Smoking Man]

Doing psychs will make you convert to every religion in existence and not in existence simultaneously.

Mushrooms are much mentally cleaner while LSD can leave you feeling dirty in the head.

That's weird, most people say it's the other way around.

 

[ChronicHD]

Yea I find mushrooms to be way more confusing, while acid is more clear-headed. Acid does feel a bit more chemical-ly though during the experience. And it is way more of a commitment if you can understand what I'm saying.

 

[psychomimetic]

^How can something feel chemically? I don't understand the distinction made between the feel of a plant and synthetic material.

I do agree about mushrooms though, I find them to be one of the most cloudy headed hallucinogens. Acid for me is fairly stupifying, but I also find it to be fairly clear headed.

 

[funkmaster]

Mushrooms are much mentally cleaner while LSD can leave you feeling dirty in the head.

I would tend to disagree. Good pure LSD is a completely clean chemical yes your mind can and will bend, but there is normally a message behind it. I would say that mushrooms have more of a chance to distort my reality then LSD, however since you mentioned low doses of shrooms then yes if he starts with a low dose it probably will not distort his reality that much.

 

[The Smoking Man]

I would tend to disagree. Good pure LSD is a completely clean chemical yes your mind can and will bend, but there is normally a message behind it. I would say that mushrooms have more of a chance to distort my reality then LSD, however since you mentioned low doses of shrooms then yes if he starts with a low dose it probably will not distort his reality that much.

Well, it does seem to me that acid gets more confusing and less clear-headed on the higher doses or with just the right (or wrong) mindset, although it doesn't shit all over your short-term memory like shrooms like to do.

 

[funkmaster]

Most definitely. I would say that the shrooms like to take you on inner visions more. I can see what you mean though.

 

[dtxx]

Mescaline majorly reinforced my atheist views and helped me come to peace with the idea of no longer existing after death.

I agree 'cid can send strong messages as part of the trip. Last time I dropped L was 11 years ago. It literally told me never to take L again. Thank (non-existant) god for cactus and mushrooms!

 

[Raw Evil]

After reading and watching many accounts of people with psychedelic experiences and how they encountered/sensed/and even communicated with higher beings and entities has made me very interested in indulging in these drugs, im somewhat afraid that my perspective of life will be too warped though, this doesnt change the fact that im still very interested in tripping and plan on doing so in the near future.

How much did it change your view on reality/life/etc and if you could describe how so? how are things different from before?

First point of note: psychedelics aren't going to make you believe anything you don't want to believe. So don't be worrying that you'll turn into a God Botherer or some kind of woo-woo, because unless you make that choice for yourself, it's not going to happen.

The first change I noticed was that I really *understood* just how trivial our socially constructed "reality" is. I had always suspected as much, but actually feeling it firsthand was something else. What I discovered much later was that dwelling on this feeling is toxic to the soul - it changes from an insight about reality to being an inescapable depressing truth. What it does mean is that you are free to do as you wish; but I digress.

Funnily enough, life feels the same as before I ventured into psychedelics. The difference is simply a feeling of knowing I'm awake. And at the same time, this makes a world of difference. It influences every decision I make ever-so-slightly, such that the life I live now is something I never saw coming - and I wouldn't have it any other way.