Kratom

[bpayne]

Yo, so I just got my bag of 50 grams of premium bali kratom powder. I took a Heaping tablespoons worth and tossed it into my mouth (uggggh) and washed it down with mountain dew (not a good chaser), the kratom tasted nasty and slightly herbish. but the real nasty part was the muddiness is created in my mouth apparantly a tablespoons worth is a lot of powder to put in your mouth at once, I got the kratom to help with my tram withdrawals( 20 pill a day habit). It doesn't feel like an opiate perse, but It makes me feel energized kinda like a small tram dose. So to the questions, should this help to keep the tram wd away completely, (I've been taking hydro but don't want to continue and swap on dependence for another) I'm typing a mile a minute, I don't feel "high" exactly just in a better mood and able to do stuff. Any tips on using this stuff and addiction potential of the kratom itself? what if I took a few lortabs with it, would it be a good mix?
peace
B

 

[theotherside]

Yeah depending on which type you get you get more or less of that "stimulated" feeling you're talking about. The only luck I ever had with kratom was the extracted chemical 7-hydroxy...it felt like a real opiate but was too expensive to play around with.

 

[bpayne]

yeah I wasn't expecting too much due to variant of potency and the overall suspicion of anything people say vs what I experience, but I have to say this batch of what I got today is hitting me with an unexpected strength. feels pretty decent for something completely legal. It keeps getting stronger as time goes on.

 

[bpayne]

also on a fairly unrelated matter but still relevant to the subject. I had my last dose of tramadols on Friday night. although previous I have taken up to 20 a day until then, the last 3 was on Friday night. It is now Tuesday. is it safe for me to take some shrooms? I've had a small portion of cubensis sitting in my stash for the last 2 months waiting till I was off of the tram to dose. has this been enough time to safely take them? also since I'm using kratom for WD, is it better to take it with the kratom so I dont end up with some withdrawal intesified nightmare for a trip?

 

[Aloric]

Yeah depending on which type you get you get more or less of that "stimulated" feeling you're talking about. The only luck I ever had with kratom was the extracted chemical 7-hydroxy...it felt like a real opiate but was too expensive to play around with.

7-hydroxymitragynine is a Kratom alkaloid, making up about 2% of all alkaloids. It is 7- hydroxymitragynine that is chiefly responsible for the narcotic (opioid-like) activity of kratom.
It's seventeen times more potent than morphine by weight. As an agonist it demonstrates a 90% binding affinity for the 'mu' opioid receptors. This binding causes- euphoria, supraspinal analgesia, constipation, physical dependence, respiratory depression, and miosis (pinpoint pupils)- among other symptomatic effects.
Additionally, like opiates, 7-hydroxymitragynine often manifests a paradoxical 'stimulatory' response when administered in moderate amounts.

I am unaware that 7-hydroxymitragynine was available as the distinct, separate isolate.. (i.e., in the stable salt form, as a drug?)..

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

7-hydroxymitragynine is a Kratom alkaloid, making up about 2% of all alkaloids. It is 7- hydroxymitragynine that is chiefly responsible for the narcotic (opioid-like) activity of kratom.
It's seventeen times more potent than morphine by weight. As an agonist it demonstrates a 90% binding affinity for the 'mu' opioid receptors. This binding causes- euphoria, supraspinal analgesia, constipation, physical dependence, respiratory depression, and miosis (pinpoint pupils)- among other symptomatic effects.
Additionally, like opiates, 7-hydroxymitragynine often manifests a paradoxical 'stimulatory' response when administered in moderate amounts.

I am unaware that 7-hydroxymitragynine was available as the distinct, separate isolate.. (i.e., in the stable salt form, as a drug?)..

Stick with the powders or extracts. The pure shit is more than any opiate you could buy off the street.

 

[Faded .45]

I would definately go with UEI (ultra enhanced indo). It's real expensive, but its way, way better than plain leaf. Costs me about 9 dollars a dose though.

 

[toocoolforschool]

forgive me and please corect me if i am wrong about anything but it's been some time since i have come across this substance.
but here's my say on the shrooms. when you take opiates, it takes a little bit of happy out of you. when you stop taking them, you begin to build that amount of happieness up one day at a time. over all i'd say it takes about a month to get back and fully recover from the dysphoria caused. i dont know of any medical reasons not to take them but i havnt looked, so you do it your self! but any ways it's not that tripping on shrooms wouldnt be fun within the month, it's just that the longer you wait the more fun you could have. unless there is some big event that you for some reason felt the need to shroom on.

but yeah some kratom information i learned from experience: doses are realy wierd extracts make it harder too because you never realy know what the concentrations of the alkaloid are. the lowerdose you take, the more it acts as a stimulant, the higher dose you take, the more it acts as a depressant, the flip flop zone(where stimulant meets depressant) is some where between 3-15 grams.

i mixed it with opiates once and it seemed to potentiate the effects. so beware of how closley you use them.

bout the taste, you shouldget an extract, or at least, an enhanced blend. i realy dont know how they "enhance" it but i should do more research.
also fresh fruit smoothies woork well to get the grit out just be sure not to mix it into the whole thing cuz the whole thing tastes like bitter ass.