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^I'm wondering if I will ever get over this one myself AylaV

I feel totally fine but theres just.. something there

I feel like the next time I roll I'll reconnect with her in my mind and be at peace about it.
 
I think you would be better served if you just ask the girl where you 2 stand. Either draw boundries now or tare them down completely and it will be much easier on you. You can wait until you roll again to talk about it because MDMA will let the words flow more freely. But if you find out where you stand early you won't be as pissed if things don't go your way as if you had invested a large amount of time trying to woo her.
 
Sociable said:
SGHteller I have a friend worried about rolling with a few buddies and a girl he knows actually for that exact reason. I mean it's already happened when under the influence of nothing... heh
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We have a female friend that we asked to roll with us about two years ago. She passed on the chance, having heard from a friend that MDMA turns you into a sex-crazed maniac. We explained that that was not the case, you only get as crazy as you want too and many people don't even consider sex while rolling. She finally tried it a few weeks ago at someone else's party and admitted her friend was grossly exaggerating.

There are plenty of drugs that can "make" you do things that are completely out of character, MDMA just allows you to do things that are IN character but you're normally afraid to do.
 
SGHteller said:
There are plenty of drugs that can "make" you do things that are completely out of character, MDMA just allows you to do things that are IN character but you're normally afraid to do.
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Truthfully, I disagree with the excuse that drugs make people do anything. Actually, that's not totally true, there are a very small group of drug classes or individual substances that I would actually consider this to be true with. Deliriants fall into this category. For instance on certain drugs/chemicals you could consider walking in the middle of a busy highway as perfectly normal, you are clearly not in control of your psyche and your ability to distinguish right from wrong has been taken away from you.

Mdma and better yet alcohol, DO NOT fall into that category for me. I think you still have the ability to control your actions and decipher what is right and wrong. Even at high doses you still have a sense or morals.

Just my opinion though.
 
I think we just agreed Purple. :)

On MDMA I've managed to behave appropriately, keep thoughts to myself, and even lie (yuck). There's no overwhelming need to act out of character though, unlike a few drugs (which you've basically covered).

One of the biggest draws MDMA has for me is the lack of fear and lowering of barriers. This can lead to "shocking" behavior, but I've only seen it happen when that behavior is completely fine at the time. My example above is a woman who kissed, fondled, and generally misbehaved with lots of people in front of her husband. While that was entirely in character IMO, it was something she was not ready to trot out in front of people.
 
Aye, I just reread what you wrote :)

Mdma very much leaves you in control of your actions. Its very hard to describe, but loss of control is not an attribute to mdma.

I understand what you're saying now and definitely agree. :)
 
I made out with tons of people on MDMA because it felt right and found out that it hurt my partner's feelings quite a bit. You may be in complete control, but the delusion that what you're doing is appropriate can lead to awkward situations. It may be nice to love everyone and have everyone love you, but this is only a delusion created by MDMA and is not true in the long run in the least.

Alcohol I'm out of control with when I black out. When I don't remember what happened, I don't believe I have control of my actions. I've pounded on doors screaming in german blacked out and puked in my friend's oven. I'd like to think I wouldn't have done this normally.

Just my feelings on the subject.
 
MDMA relationships are like high school relationships.....They end just as quickly as they start.

Well, at least this is what it seems like most of the time. :P

I have a fair amount of control over my actions while rolling, and feel confident in saying I will never be able to allow myself to do anything to hurt my boyfriend. I've never had the desire. MDMA makes me want to be the best person I can toward everyone, because it feels so damn good to be a good person when you're rolling.

Although, I also don't roll my eyes off, ever, except for the first time.....The first time I rolled, I was wasted. I went up to girls who were dancing and just started touching their arms, because I couldn't get over how soft girls' skin is. This was much to the entertainment of my bf, not so much to those poor girls.....lol. That's the most out-of-control I've ever been.
 
C8H10N4O2 said:
I went up to girls who were dancing and just started touching their arms, because I couldn't get over how soft girls' skin is. This was much to the entertainment of my bf, not so much to those poor girls.....lol. That's the most out-of-control I've ever been.
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My brother did that and then told me I made him happy in the pants. I was like "I dunno, Keith.. I think that's about enough for tonight." and he goes "No, not like that, julia.. you just, you know.. make me happy in the pants." and I go "well, ki.. i don't know how else to take that."

I really hope that's out of control, because it would be very upsetting if my brother had the hots for me <.<
 
AylaV said:
My brother did that and then told me I made him happy in the pants. I was like "I dunno, Keith.. I think that's about enough for tonight." and he goes "No, not like that, julia.. you just, you know.. make me happy in the pants." and I go "well, ki.. i don't know how else to take that."

I really hope that's out of control, because it would be very upsetting if my brother had the hots for me <.<
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Lol. He was probably just really enjoying his body high. If I were a guy i'd probably have a halfie during the peak no matter what I was doing....I doubt you have any reason to worry.
 
purplefirefly said:
Truthfully, I disagree with the excuse that drugs make people do anything. Actually, that's not totally true, there are a very small group of drug classes or individual substances that I would actually consider this to be true with. Deliriants fall into this category. For instance on certain drugs/chemicals you could consider walking in the middle of a busy highway as perfectly normal, you are clearly not in control of your psyche and your ability to distinguish right from wrong has been taken away from you.

Mdma and better yet alcohol, DO NOT fall into that category for me. I think you still have the ability to control your actions and decipher what is right and wrong. Even at high doses you still have a sense or morals.

Just my opinion though.
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I am in the same boat....

I think its just an excuse too. I have been on many many pills and mixed MDMA with many different things and there was never a time where I was so gone that I didn't know exactly what I was doing or felt that the drugs "made" me do something that I wouldn't normally do.

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of people who claim they did something on MDMA that they would have no reason or desire to do normally. so I have to deside for myslef if all those people are just using being fucked up as an excuse or if they really were out of control because of drugs.

Right now, based on my own experiences with MDMA and drugs in general...I say they are just using it as an excuse.:p
 
I really think that people just use it as an excuse to shift responsibility onto them and onto the drug.

A lot of people have a hard time accepting and acknowledging responsibility for their actions in a lot of different areas in life, and drug use is no different.
 
AylaV said:
I made out with tons of people on MDMA because it felt right and found out that it hurt my partner's feelings quite a bit.
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The question that leaps out to me: If he was rolling too, was he upset at the time, or upset after? Not to say his feelings aren't valid, just trying to figure things out a bit.

I'm getting the impression that most of the hurt feelings caused by "MDMAntics" are from looking at things afterwards ... when the anxiety and fear are back in play.

I've had negative feelings twice while rolling, and that's over seven years. Once was having to pull a friend aside and ask him to stop bugging EVERY female incessantly for sexual attention, and once when a "talker" said something hurtful w/o thinking.

I've seen others have issues afterwards with things that happened, but they didn't appear to have a problem while things were happening.
 
She was rolling as well and she was upset during and after (although seemed less so during). I've had a few bad emotions while rolling -- Falling off a balcony, people not letting me give them hugs (I think they were afraid of getting a free hug from a hot chick) and seeing negative things happen.
 
Ack, I would feel so bad if I missed seeing my GF's discomfort while rolling.

I think I may be insulated by being a 100% home roller, it gives us more control of the environment and therefore less chance of bad shit happening.

You fell off a balcony? Ouch!
 
Yah.. I'm a home roller anymore. When I go to raves I rarely roll.. this party i went to I didn't roll WITH my gf. We went our separate ways and she saw me on and off making out with everyone. Then I found a rolling buddy and rolled with her and fell in XTC love with her. We became really good friends after that, though.
 
I think I'd have to describe my feelings to others as "overly helpful" while rolling. I want EVERYONE to have a great time and run around trying to make that happen.

Think of a 6'2" dilated puppy. lol
 
Yeah, I play the "adopt a girlfriend" role where in the absence of my girl, I select a stranger and look after her really well. Nothing untoward or owt, but I just instinctively do it! Get them drinks, listen to their problems, basically do everything for them. Just an in-built protocol I'm so used to...
 
Yeah man, I was bagged early and trained up from a cub age. Been with my girl since 17 - we're now 30...
 
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