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^ That is complete speculation. Do you think MDMA or methcathinone was sold by "vampiric RC companies"? No. And besides, according to the quote, the ingredients weren't "revealed," so if it was truly secret, how'd it get out? The fact is that, if the drug is moderately pleasurable and the synthesis isn't too hard, it's only a matter of time until it enjoys some limelight.

Please be quiet if you don't know what you're talking about. (Hopefully this thread will be cleaned of all conversation not relating to naphyrone.)
 
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Uhm, the drug is getting banned because it's ALL OVER the place in some parts of europe. Its distribution is not limited to the RC community. Those "large quantities" are getting sold on the street

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MDPV has been a street drug in Finland for ca. 18 months now... :( It's strenght varies a lot but it's usually cut so that 100mg of powder usually contains 10-20mg MDPV (people seem to consider 100mg of street MDPV as a single dose).

Someone's making a huge profit and getting people hospitalized. There are a large number of daily MDPV overdoses in Helsinki (IV drug users mainly). Sometimes MDPV is even sold as speed around here. :(:(

I'm afraid naphyrone will be hitting the streets as soon as MDPV gets classified as a recreational drug. At the moment it's only listed in the finnish "medicine list" so the punishment by the law is not nearly as severe as it is with speed or coke. :(:(
 
^ That is complete speculation. Do you think MDMA or methcathinone was sold by "vampiric RC companies"? No. And besides, according to the quote, the ingredients weren't "revealed," so if it was truly secret, how'd it get out? The fact is that, if the drug is moderately pleasurable and the synthesis isn't too hard, it's only a matter of time until it enjoys some limelight.

Please be quiet if you don't know what you're talking about. (Hopefully this thread will be cleaned of all conversation not relating to naphyrone.)

Methcathinone and MDMA come from the previous generation of clandestine drug chemists (I mean the era where a copy of a CWE 'recipe' sold for hundreds of dollars in NZ, and the step-by-sterp guides for Methcathinone sold for hundreds in Michigan among the bikers in the era before the internet).

This market didn't result in the bulk of hospitalizations and deaths as as the 3-MMC, BZP/TFMPP, Piperiizne variety.

You wanna talk about Naphyrone?

NRG-1 is a 25p hit and will kill many more than meow
From VIRGINIA WHEELER
in Antwerp, Belgium

A BRIT chemist who helped flood the UK with meow meow has warned of an even DEADLIER legal high about to hit us.

Worried Dave Llewellyn told The Sun that the new drug NRG-1 will be "Britain's worst nightmare" leading to mass brain damage and death.

The horror drug COSTS just 25p a hit compared to £10 for a rock of crack cocaine, yet it is 13 times STRONGER than coke and even more ADDICTIVE than heroin.

But authorities are powerless to prevent it flooding our streets because it is completely LEGAL.

Dave, a drug manufacturer and legal stimulant seller based in Belgium, said yesterday: "It is the worst drug ever to hit the shores of Britain. It makes meow meow look like baby powder.

"It will wreck hundreds of lives and kill many times more than meow meow - and far more horrifically. It will make users want to tear out their own eyes.

"It makes people feel like God Himself - but really it is the Devil's Powder."

Scots-born Dave admits sending meow meow to Britain but has stopped after it was implicated in 26 deaths. He agreed to speak to The Sun amid moves to make the substance, officially known as mephedrone, illegal in Britain.

He turned whistleblower to us in a bid to prevent NRG-1 - which also has the street names Energy 1 or Rave - reaching the UK's markets too.

He said the new drug, otherwise known as naphyrone, would kill and mentally destroy so many people it would quickly "fill an Olympic stadium".

Speaking to us in the port city of Antwerp, he warned: "Naphyrone comes from Chinese factories and what it does to users is truly frightening.

"It will make them feel like God for about 12 hours. But when it wears off they will feel worse than they ever have in their lives. They won't sleep for three days.

"It juices the brain, causing cerebral burn-out of a degree not seen before. It causes paranoia and suicidal tendencies and permanently alters brain chemistry with horrifying consequences."

And he went on: "The worst thing is that it is completely legal. It is being marketed as a mephedrone replacement and will be bought by children.


"It can be made by anyone with a GCSE in chemistry for around 10p a gram. That would give one person around 80 hours of the ultimate legal high, then destroy them.

"Such a tiny amount is needed that it will turn up in playgrounds for 25p a hit. I think it will become Europe's crystal meth."

Dave said each hit of naphyrone was 13 times more potent than cocaine. And just a few granules of the off-white powder have the chemical effect of a "mega speedball" - like taking crystal meth, cocaine and ecstasy combined.

Dave added: "I won't sell meow meow again because of what has happened in Britain, with people selling the drug and then not telling them it can become lethal when mixed with alcohol.

"Marketing it as plant food is the most idiotic thing that could ever happened. That decision cost lives.

"But naphyrone is the one that sends shivers down my spine. I won't touch it and want to warn people how terrifying this drug is."

Dave, who left the UK to run Alchemy Labz selling "ethical" stimulants on the Continent, showed us dozens of websites already flogging naphyrone to Brits.

And drugs forums are crammed with questions from excited youngsters about the "brand new" meow meow - at the same time as seasoned users warned against it.

One posted: "It is flying to Heaven - and waking up in Hell."

The chemical make-up of both mephedrone and naphyrone are only slightly different - and BOTH are terrifyingly similar to ecstasy.

Dave explained that mephedrone gives users a high by overdosing the body's pleasure receptors.

But naphyrone works by over-stimulating not only those receptors, but also ones which flood the body with adrenaline. The combination causes brain "fry-out".

Dave has written to Home Secretary Alan Johnson and the Drugs Advisory Council about his fears.

He insisted: "No drug is safe and I am definitely not advertising meow meow now. If I ever thought there was a one per cent chance someone would die from a drug I would not sell it at all.

"I understand the chemistry and I want to do the right thing. There needs to be serious action taken, driven by facts and not hysteria.

"There needs to be an open discussion and it needs to hear from law enforcement officers, politicians, youth workers, scientists - and also drug users."

UK drug websites were buzzing with talk about the new substance last night. One user who had tried it warned: "Can't sleep, very bad comedown. Sweating all night."

Dave said: "I am stopping the sale of mephedrone in the UK due to the new legal position.

"I find it terrible that, under the Medicines Act, people have to sell it as plant food - which makes it illegal to tell people that it can be lethal if mixed with alcohol and in fact should not be mixed with any other substance.

"Criminalising people for giving out safety information on what everyone knows is a drug is the most idiotic thing that could ever have happened."

He also explained that there are three different strengths of NRG1 (naphyrone.)

And he added: "Naphyrone is NOT the same as mephedrone in its effects. It is not a replacement. It is a killer."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...-a-hit-and-will-kill-many-more-than-meow.html

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=496201

What started as a free information, harm reduction web presence has turned into "how do I get fucked up, where can I buy drugs, where can I buy the best drugs, how do I buy the cheapest drugs and sell them on the sreet".

Methedrone, and Naphyrone could be hit in a similar way Bluelight hit champlegals/doves. There needs to be some accountability.
 
Anyone else hearing the sound of shit hitting a fan at the moment?
(not to say it hasn't been over the past months, either, but the speed and volume recently got turned up, IMO)
 
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are you referring to this:

Due to the sweeping FDA crackdown in China last weekend, several Chinese labs have been (or will soon be) shut down. This directly affects our supplies of Mephedrone, bk-MDMA, bk-MBDB, and possibly MDPV. As a result, we have been forced to immediately limit maximum quantities and raise our prices on those items slightly.
 
Please guys, we should get back on topic (...naphyrone). Nonetheless would I like to read a bit more of what hamhurricane just wrote. Anyone with more insight willing to open a new thread here in ADD? Thx!

- Murphy
 
Absent any other evidence, my guess is that the "FDA crackdown" is an easy way to jack prices up in the weeks before the mephedrone ban comes into effect in the UK.
 
Vendor who posted that message just posted that the products were not effected and the prices are unchanged, however, they quite definitely have raised their prices!

And, i wouldn't be surprised if they legitimately were facing supply shortages because of people stocking up because of the UK ban.
 
uhhh i am very tempted to try it... the sun news paper report was fuckig retarded ! i actualy lol'd many times when i was reading it.

I am just gonna sit and wait a bit longer untill more people experiance with this drug
 
Absent any other evidence, my guess is that the "FDA crackdown" is an easy way to jack prices up in the weeks before the mephedrone ban comes into effect in the UK.

An FDA crackdown ain't hard to believe given the high attention from authoritys in western countrys, ya think uk/australian government must be putting quite a bit of policatial heat on China for allowing production of these chems.
 
An FDA crackdown ain't hard to believe given the high attention from authoritys in western countrys, ya think uk/australian government must be putting quite a bit of policatial heat on China for allowing production of these chems.

yeah an ironic reversal of the opium wars:)
 
yeah an ironic reversal of the opium wars:)

This is such bullshit from a goverments. When it comes to drugs then they cry "omg stop selling that china", but when it comes to human rights nobody cares or say anything. :! I hope one day FDA will get attacked by terrorists.
 
This is such bullshit from a goverments. When it comes to drugs then they cry "omg stop selling that china", but when it comes to human rights nobody cares or say anything. :! I hope one day FDA will get attacked by terrorists.

it is not the US FDA doing this, you muppet, it is the Chinese, and in reality all they are doing is giving the appearance of doing something, if they really wanted to shut down the RC manufacturers they could and they would.
 
it is not the US FDA doing this, you muppet, it is the Chinese, and in reality all they are doing is giving the appearance of doing something, if they really wanted to shut down the RC manufacturers they could and they would.

Still. Other nations only bitch when it comes to drugs, but not when its about human rights.
 
it is not the US FDA doing this, you muppet, it is the Chinese, and in reality all they are doing is giving the appearance of doing something, if they really wanted to shut down the RC manufacturers they could and they would.

You've got a good point. Manufacturers of the precursors must be making TONS of money--I doubt the Chinese government wants that to stop.
 
You've got a good point. Manufacturers of the precursors must be making TONS of money--I doubt the Chinese government wants that to stop.

Nobody wants it to stop anyway (execpt FDA), its good think to have them.
 
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