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vaporizing psychedelics

porkstock

porkstock

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i recently acquired the Arizer Extreme Q. i was wondering if anyone has any experience using a vaporizer like this (or the volcano - any hot air machine) to vaporize DPT HCl or if that is even possible. that is my main question.

but i'm also interested in your experience with vaporizing 5-meo-dmt, n,n dmt, any other synthetic psychedelics like 4-aco-dmt or 2c-e, or any herbs other than cannabis (lavender, jasmine, wild lettuce, mugwort, valerian, damiana, catnip, etc)

i've only tried cannabis and chamomile tea so far. chamomile flowers are supposed to be good for digestion, gas, cramps, and insomnia. it was very tasty too. i might try mixing chamomile or other herbs with my cannabis.

thanks
 
I've only chased on tinfoil never a proper vapouriser, but chasing is still vaping so I have vaped a number of psyches. The 2Cs were all vile but effective (if short-lived) and did truly horrible things to my lungs (2C-I especially,) 4-AcO-DMT did next to nothing, 3-MeO-PCP was good but not as good as some other methods, DMT was mindblowing. Can't think of any more I've tried vaping off the top of my head but for the most part pretty disappointing and often unpleasant, in my experience. Maybe using a proper vapouriser would be better but I doubt it to be honest. Great for herbal stuff though :)
 
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so was DMT at least worthwhile shambles?

i wasn't seriously considering vaping 2ce or 4acodmt. N,N DMT you're supposed to vape, and DPT i was just thinking it'd be a lot nicer than snorting a shitload of powder..
 
No experience here, but I do have a volcano, and I'm trying to figure out how I could properly vap DMT. It takes a few minutes to heat up, and even if I added it when it was warmed up, it would be a race to attach the tube then inhale in time. Any suggestions?
 
i have zero experience with dmt, and only a bit with a volcano. i have an arizer extreme (did i already say that?). so i assume the problem is the DMT vaporizing before you want it to, and you can't capture it with the bag? i would just put the DMT in the bowl, attach my bag and then start heating it up, so whatever vaporized would be collected. then once heated, turn the fan on to get the real hit...and do it.

but if i recall, you can't really do that with a volcano, so i dunno. attach the bag, before you start heating up?

and i'm talking about vaporizing DPT HCl
 
does it melt if you vaporize it gently? i don't want the 5meodmt to melt onto the heating element of my vape
 
I can confirm this works with 2C-E at least. It needs to be vapourized obviously but the boiling point isn't that high.

BE VERY FUCKING CAREFUL, I was on a bit of a hardcore one when I discovered this and ended up taking FAAR too much, the dose is closer to insufflation than it is oral. Long story short, it worked so well I literally lost my marbles for a few hours and wandered off into town, leaving my group.

By some act of GOD I found them, still blissfully unaware of what was going on.
 
how does a vaporized 2ce trip compare to an oral one? other than the dosage difference i mean. and what temp did you set the vape to?
 
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When vapourized it was extremely visual almost immediatly (however I wasn't jumping from baseline, but this appears correct.) There was little or no body load and seemed a very attractive route to go.

However, what I didn't realize is that to fully come up off a hit, I'd say takes about 20 minutes (I know, it seems strange). I probably put... 30mg in that pipe, did about 3-5 hits. Felt trippy as fuck, but lucid and in control, I felt excellent.

I don't remember getting to the club we were going to. I have a black spot in my memory punctuated with the ocasional snapshot image.

Basically I would suggest a starting dose of 10-15mg. It seems to be a fairly cost effective. I didn't use a vapourizer, just a glass pipe and a steady hand.

Most important, do not redose, for some reason the high comes on slowly, and you don't want to end up quite literally insane wandering around Reading in a T-Shirt at 4am.

FYI, the odds of me finding my friends (who I had just wandered off from aparently) must have been literally millions to one, I'd been wandering for about 2 hours, I didn't know WHO I was, I had no concept of lost. I have few memories but the ones I do have, I don't think I realized there was a problem. Anyway I don't know reading and by some insane stroke of luck I ran into them on their way home, they'd been looking for me...
 
These things don't go from solid to gas (sublimate); they melt first and then boil (or vaporize).

I wouldn't use a marijuana vaporizer; use a DMT machine for large dose things (like DMT) and use a test tube + torch lighter and straw for things that don't need such a high dose.
 
PepperSocks said:
These things don't go from solid to gas (sublimate); they melt first and then boil (or vaporize).

I wouldn't use a marijuana vaporizer; use a DMT machine for large dose things (like DMT) and use a test tube + torch lighter and straw for things that don't need such a high dose.
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so if one were to use a vaporizer, maybe ontop of some plant material, one would set the temp to the boiling point, correct?

i realize after typing it, that's a stupid question, but i'm hitting post anyways :)
 
PepperSocks said:
These things don't go from solid to gas (sublimate); they melt first and then boil (or vaporize).

I wouldn't use a marijuana vaporizer; use a DMT machine for large dose things (like DMT) and use a test tube + torch lighter and straw for things that don't need such a high dose.
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that's what i thought, but do u think it might be feasible to put the DMT on top of some plant material, so that it melts into it and doesn't drip down?
or should i just rip it in my bong?
 
Old thread, but it was at the top of my subscribed threads :)

Some have used a bong with success on plant material as you described. I always thought it would just run down the stem as it melted. The gold standard seems to be the DMT machine thought (bottle with steel wool in the neck and a hole at the bottom of the bottle); look it up.

You certainly can't just put DMT in a bong bowl with no plant material under it; it would just run down the stem as soon as you put heat on it.
 
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I can confirm this works with 2C-E at least. It needs to be vapourized obviously but the boiling point isn't that high.

BE VERY FUCKING CAREFUL, I was on a bit of a hardcore one when I discovered this and ended up taking FAAR too much, the dose is closer to insufflation than it is oral. Long story short, it worked so well I literally lost my marbles for a few hours and wandered off into town, leaving my group.

By some act of GOD I found them, still blissfully unaware of what was going on.
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Ahahaha, been there.
2c-E really confuses you when smoked.



I've smoked 2c-E, 2c-I, and 2c-P
looking forward to my batch of 2c-c, gunna try and smoke it too!



You can smoke the 2c's using the sandwich method as with DMT, though the 2c's vaporize much quicker than DMT.

And whoever smoked 4-aco-dmt, that's just a huuge waste, as 4-ho-dmt takes like 12x as much to smoke to warrant any effect, and those doses are perfectly good 6-8 hour oral doses you could be eating/snorting or selling the stuff!
 
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