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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Will a benzo prevent a drug induced seizure?

whitemilk661

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I'm planning on candyflipping this weekend, but I'm really anxious I'm going to have a seizure or something. I always think the worst possible thing WILL happen.

I've candyflipped before, and done lsd and mdma alone on numerous occasions without a seizure, nor have I ever had one before... but maybe I just got lucky.

Anyways would Xanax or Klonopin prevent a seizure caused by a candyflip?
 
I don't know what a "candyflip" is, but basically, benzos are antiepileptics amongst other things.
 
There's no 100% guarantee that it'll prevent a seizure, but most benzos are anti-convulsants and will reduce the likelihood of having one. I'd recommend clonazepam (Klonopin) especially.
 
Well klonopin has a longer half life and would be more likely to "prevent a seizure".. it's a better choice than Xanax in this situation. Sounds like you have some anxiety. Think long and hard about things before you do them. Good luck and enjoy!
 
diazepam and clonazepam are amongst the anti-convulsant benzos, but you should only take it if you're really anxious... it will dull the trip a tad...

What do you think the odds of having a seizure are? I mean I've candyflipped before... and it went fine. I've also rolled and done lsd numerous times all fine. Never even had a seizure before.


The reason I'm worried is because I just got off abilify a week and a half ago and when i candyflip it'll be two. the half life on abilify is 75 hours though so it's 21 days? until it's gone I believe? I'm not really sure.
 
^ Depends how much you do. Especially with MDMA, the more you do, the greater the chance of having a seizure (among other things). If you've never had a seizure before and aren't prone to them, then it's unlikely that you'll have one if you're sensible with the drugs.
 
diazepam and clonazepam are amongst the anti-convulsant benzos, but you should only take it if you're really anxious... it will dull the trip a tad...

Benzodiazepines are non-selective at the GABA-A site which means that all benzodiazepines produce the same effects, just to different degrees. What I'm saying is that they all have anti-convulsant and anti-seizure properties but some are much more effective than others. The two benzodiazepines that you mentioned, Clonazepam and Diazepam, are the most effective anti-convulsants as they both are prescribed for seizure disorders.
 
What do you think the odds of having a seizure are? I mean I've candyflipped before... and it went fine. I've also rolled and done lsd numerous times all fine. Never even had a seizure before.


The reason I'm worried is because I just got off abilify a week and a half ago and when i candyflip it'll be two. the half life on abilify is 75 hours though so it's 21 days? until it's gone I believe? I'm not really sure.

I think the chances of you having a seizure are really really small, close to nil... you're more likely to get run over by a car, or slip in the shower and break your neck....:\
 
There's no 100% guarantee that it'll prevent a seizure, but most benzos are anti-convulsants and will reduce the likelihood of having one. I'd recommend clonazepam (Klonopin) especially.
I'm agreeing with the above, if you need it, and if you're that concerned about having a seizure take a milligram of Klonopin. I wouldn't be concerned though, especially if you've done this before while you were on Abilify and didn't have a seizure. Unless you have a history of epilepsy or overdo the drugs the likelihood is very low, I'd avoid the Klonopin unless you truly need it (you have some sort of disabling anxiety around the danger of a seizure or you start to freak out) because it will mess with the trip.

I wanna get lost in the forrest trying to be an Ewok.. that would fucking rule.. lol
That'd be the best story at parties. Ever.
 
of the common benzos available in the US market, the best anticonvulsants are clonazepam and lorazepam.

diazepam is great also, but not as good as clonaz and loraz (as an anticonvulsant).
 
of the common benzos available in the US market, the best anticonvulsants are clonazepam and lorazepam.

diazepam is great also, but not as good as clonaz and loraz (as an anticonvulsant).

Well...to prevent seizures, convulsions and other similar symptoms from alcohol withdrawal, along with other seizure-risk drugs, at detox centers Diazepam is administered. The reason for this is because Diazepam has a longer duration than Lorazepam, making it more effective. But Lorazepam is still used in detox...

I've gone to 5-10 day detoxes three times in my life and for those getting off the drink, barbs, pods or the more potent benzodiazepines they are administered 2x 10mg Diazepam every 4 hours until symptoms start diminishing, in which its administered in longer time intervals. A poly-drug abuser (addicted to more than just one drug) of those previous drugs (alcohol, opiates, barbiturates, benzodiazepines and now Soma is inlcuded) are ALSO administered Phenobarbital at a very high dose which drops every 12 hours for the first few days. Now if you DO actually feel like your going to have a seizure and tell the nurse, you are checked and then administered an injection or Lorazepam and have your legs/arms tied up for a couple hours to prevent hitting your head against stuff and causing damage. My last detox was roughly 5 years ago so things may have changed.
 
Well...to prevent seizures, convulsions and other similar symptoms from alcohol withdrawal, along with other seizure-risk drugs, at detox centers Diazepam is administered. The reason for this is because Diazepam has a longer duration than Lorazepam, making it more effective. But Lorazepam is still used in detox...

I've gone to 5-10 day detoxes three times in my life and for those getting off the drink, barbs, pods or the more potent benzodiazepines they are administered 2x 10mg Diazepam every 4 hours until symptoms start diminishing, in which its administered in longer time intervals. A poly-drug abuser (addicted to more than just one drug) of those previous drugs (alcohol, opiates, barbiturates, benzodiazepines and now Soma is inlcuded) are ALSO administered Phenobarbital at a very high dose which drops every 12 hours for the first few days. Now if you DO actually feel like your going to have a seizure and tell the nurse, you are checked and then administered an injection or Lorazepam and have your legs/arms tied up for a couple hours to prevent hitting your head against stuff and causing damage. My last detox was roughly 5 years ago so things may have changed.

Diazepam and lorazepam are both used for status epilepticus, with lorazepam being the preferred agent due to it being a more powerful and quicker acting anticonvulsant.
Diazepam is preferred for detox due to it's long half life. Chlordiazepoxide and oxazepam are also used for alcohol (and benzo) detox.

As far as anticonvulsants go for benzos, it's the 3-hydroxy and 7-nitro compounds that are generally the strongest, most effective.

3-hydroxy: oxazepam, lorazepam, lormetazepam, temazepam
7-nitro: clonazepam, nitrazepam, flunitrazepam, nimetazepam

In fact, nitrazepam, temazepam, and nimetazepam have been shown to be more effective anticonvulsants than the more common lorazepam and clonazepam.

Nitrazepam and temazepam have been found to be more effective than clonazepam and lorazepam in the treatment of West's syndrome, myoclonic seizures, and other seizure disorders in children and adults. The problem with their use though is a more problematic side effect profile: over-sedation and motor-impairment.

Limited studies have been done on nimetazepam, but studies in Japan on mice have shown it to be even more effective than nitrazepam.

Flunitrazepam (a 7-nitro compound) and lormetazepam (a 3-hydroxy compound) haven't been seriously studied as anticonvulsants because they have been mainly studied and promoted as hypnotics, but I am going to assume that they are highly effective aswell since the agents closest to them in chemical makeup are known powerful anticonvulsants.

New nitro and 3-hydroxy compounds are being researched as anticonvulsants and hypnotics such as menitrazepam, meclonazepam, nitrazepate, cinolazepam, and several oxazepam derivatives.
 
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