Is jwh 018 or "spice" safe?

[Sean McDevitt]

i understand most drugs arnt. but theres a rumor around where i live about how it makes your brain swell? lol and killed two people?

 

[ro4eva]

Just my opinion but I don't think any of these newer research chems (or designer drugs if you wanna call 'em that) are safe at all. And even if they are, there's not nearly enough r & d done on them to prove that they are in fact safe. I'd stay away from them even if they are legal, it's not worth possibly playing Russian roulette with your life.

I've done Methylone, Pipes and such a few times, and I thank whoever is up there looking after me that I'm still here because I've had a couple of really bad trips off this shit and I'll never touch it again.

 

[monstanoodle]

There's a thread in ADD that's called:

New evidence for cancerogenic metabolites from JWH-018

So you can make up your mind from this no doubt.

p.s. For future reference - The search function is your friend

 

[Sean McDevitt]

thanks.i sowie.

 

[monstanoodle]

Iz ok ^_^
I'm sure everyone gets atleast one

 

[Jabberwocky]

bumpp

 

[MallyX]

Why the bump, the question seems answered?

 

[ro4eva]

bumpp

LOL random.

 

[Tom Mercury]

It's not safe it's probably the worst thing I've ever experienced and physically it was like a four hour stroke and I am lucky I survived. Of course I overdosed but freebasing 70mg was an easy mistake and this "safe" compound was like smoking an evil genie and get a satanic possession all in a matter of seconds.

 

[jamesmartin]

ImIIn not sure about the brain swelling thing .

But when I did spice and jwh it wasn't very pleasant.

Unless you hve a drug test to pass or some reason not to smoke weed , I see no point in jwh

 

[TheAzo]

The brain swelling is almost certainly BS.

However, it's probably a carcinogen, and isn't much fun.

 

[Slapdragonx]

It's not safe it's probably the worst thing I've ever experienced and physically it was like a four hour stroke and I am lucky I survived. Of course I overdosed but freebasing 70mg was an easy mistake and this "safe" compound was like smoking an evil genie and get a satanic possession all in a matter of seconds.

Aren't threshold effects at 2-5mg?

 

[Tom Mercury]

Aren't threshold effects at 2-5mg?

Yep but I was greedy and I regret that. The chemical was pure so 70mg did not look much and I thought it was a scam all along. When I tried a smaller dose (before the large one) at 18mg I just got restless and felt somehow a bit electrically dizzy that defeniately felt chemically induced in a really negative fashion. What I mean was that it felt not good even at that dose - and once one inhales the smoke (it's so little You will almost not notice You've done it, if it did not taste like the fume of dirty molten aluminum that is) it's to late to regret it. I really believe I was very close to die at 70mg, my sober friend was really scared as I layed down unconscious shaken like a electric-boogaloo dancer and sweating like a leaking shower. I did this for 4 hours non-stop, it was worse than getting kicked in the head, stabbed, etc. I think the torture method of Water-Boarding may be worse, but JWH-18 in large doses would easily qualify as a torture compound.

It's not like natural herb at all, and I think the biggest range of users are minors - with unknown short- and long term side effects. After all - it is a napthalene

 

[Coolio]

Passing that off as an 'easy mistake' is giving yourself a lot of credit. There's absolutely no sane reason for you to have even tried 18mg in ONE NIGHT, nevermind 70mg. Didn't you notice that everyone online said that doses of JWH-018 are 0.5mg to 2mg for non-tolerant users?

 

[Shambles]

Even with tolerance I wouldn't go over 2mg myself cos it's just plain unpleasant at those levels, in my opinion. Less is more with Dr Huffman's 18th, I'd say.

As to the question, there are some concerns regarding carcinogenicity and it's not exactly "clean" to smoke - the residue sets like concrete only less soft and pliable. Probably not such a good thing to be smoking. Neither is cannabis, of course. Synthetic cannabinoids can also be used orally as is or baked into biscuits, brownies, etc. There's even a recipe or two in The Big & Dandy Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread. Basically the same as traditional cannacookery but you only need a mg or two of active ingredient per serving.

 

[kbrad]

If used correctly its not so bad. Of course i have no idea what health hazards it may have to users but the only difference from the real deal to me was that it made me very anxious sometimes.