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Benzos Phenazepam review (w/ Safe use)

Lawrence

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First able, I did read every thread/info I can find on this substance. I read alot report of amnesia story and fiew other that was good experience. My conclusion is that all the bad story involved is linked to miss use of this potent RC. IE.:Eyes balle dose, poor scale with out liquid mesurement.

I did an order of 100mg Phenazepam this monday and I received the stuff the next day. But 1 week prior, I ordered 8oz of Propylen Glycol USP grade for liquid mesurement, with my Cheap MG scale (witch I think its enought accurate for 20mg dose of other chemicals.

I mix 25mg of Phenazepam in 25ml of PG to have a solution of 1mg/ml.

Before tring this substance, Ive set my max dosage for the day of 1.5mg with a starting dose of 0.5mg with no redosing a least 4h before the first dose.

13:00)Ingest oraly 0.5ml of PG (0.5mg Phenazepam)

13:30)I feel relaxed physicaly and some of my day anxiety seem to wearing off.

15:00)Still the same effects but with a greather anxiolytic quality. I went outside take a walk to the park and the colors seem brighter and I feel realy relaxed.

17:00)Got back to home and I feal a bit tired, the same feeling I got from almost any other benzo. I did an expresso to myself and went to computer.

20:00)I still feel the relaxation and anxiolytic effects from Phenazepam but Im not tired anymore. I decide to take another 1mg to see if I will feel it tomorrow.


22:00) Great physical and mind relaxation state. I smoke some pot witch add some euphoria and awesome muscle relaxation. I usually dont smoke pot because its alway give me anxiety. But this time is awesome because I dont feel it and I can fully apreciate it.

01:00) Went to sleep

Next day:

Sleep was fine, I did not dream witch is weird because I always do many real vivid dream every night.

For all the next day I felt the anxiolytic from phenazepam and had no amnesia problems at all.


Pro:
  • Great for anxiety (single dose of 0.5mg to 1mg) releif you for 2 days
  • Realy cheap
  • Great for stim comedown or other kind comedown (never tried on my own but I guess)
  • No euphoria. Could be good or bad for some. Its good for me because it will be much less abusable.
  • Usefull RC in general

Con:
  • Realy potent stuff
  • Potentially dangerous is miss used
  • Probably amnesia at higher dose.
  • Required a good 0.0001 scale or Cheap MG scale with propylen Glycol


Now , if you have some question feel free to ask.
 
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I'm one of the dumbasses who eyeballed the stuff. I eyeballed what must've been a large dose because I didn't like the subtle effects I was receiving from pinhead doses. I started to feel dizzy and giggly then went to sleep for the night. All the next day I slept until about 5 when I stumbled downstairs and asked whats for dinner, but not before grabbing an energy drink and almost falling over.

On my trip back up the steps I made it to the top only to fall all the way back down into a large eagle statue and put a hole in the drywall. Parents call 911 Ambulance ride and everything... I can only remember clips and fragments. I told everyone that I took valium and drank 2 beers, lol. Why I added the 2 beers in their I dunno, but it required an ambulance ride rather than a trip in my dads car. There was a police officer asking "Where'd you get the valium." and I smiled and told him I don't have to tell him anything (my mom told me about this part.) He got all pissed and says I'll be watching you.... if there's anything missing from Target pharmacy you're done, blah blah blah.

So yeah it can be very useful, but it must be used in the correct circumstances ;)
 
Ordered 50mg, came on tues. I've been *carefully* eyeballing doses since. My previous reckless experience with this stuff has made me very cautious...

Anyway, I've not done anything stupid, got arrested etc, the experience has been similar to the OP's.

Only downsides have been oversleeping today & still feeling benzo'd up (the shit lasts for ages), and feeling a bit lethargic & can't-be-arsed-ish
 
Ordered 50mg, came on tues. I've been *carefully* eyeballing doses since. My previous reckless experience with this stuff has made me very cautious...

Anyway, I've not done anything stupid, got arrested etc, the experience has been similar to the OP's.

Only downsides have been oversleeping today & still feeling benzo'd up (the shit lasts for ages), and feeling a bit lethargic & can't-be-arsed-ish

Not trying to be a jerk, but as I keep insisting, there is no way to "carefully eyeball" this stuff. We are talking about a drug that is active at the sub mg level. The difference between 1mg and 5mg is barely noticeable to the naked eye.
What do people have against making a uniform solution for this stuff? You can use any number of common solvents including ethanol.

I am convinced that if one makes an accurate, uniform solution and doses responsibly, we would not hear the horror stories regarding this substance.-DG
 
^Well, they would be less likely, at least. Even with benzos in pressed pills, people eat handfulls and do crazy shit...
 
^Well, they would be less likely, at least. Even with benzos in pressed pills, people eat handfulls and do crazy shit...

You are correct, but if you read what I wrote I said,

I am convinced that if one makes an accurate, uniform solution and doses responsibly, we would not hear the horror stories regarding this substance.

Eating handfulls of pills or powders is not "dosing responsibly".

I firmly believe that there is nothing intrinsic to phenazepam which makes it more likely to produce blackouts and other negative consequences then other benzos.
-DG
 
I firmly believe that there is nothing intrinsic to phenazepam which makes it more likely to produce blackouts and other negative consequences then other benzos.
-DG

Although I have not tried the phenazepam I have yet I'm inclined to believe you. The reason for the horror stories is because these people aren't used to getting powders. 250mg fits in a bag the size of a stamp, and most people aren't used to thinking that way. It's more of a "well I only took a LITTLE" or "I only ate TWO pills." Some idiots need to learn two pills of one thing are not equal to two pills of another, and learn that "a little" is subjective based on the user.

Horror stories involving drugs are usually the fault of an uninformed user, not the drug itself. People who stupidly use drugs are the ones who bring all the attention to them and ruin them for safe users like myself.

Sorry to rant. But, I have some questions regarding phenazepam. I have a ~1mg a day Klonopin habit, so I'm tolerant to benzo's (I barely feel anything anymore, just relief from my anxiety). What would be a good dose of phenazepam? I would plan on .5mg to start to be safe. Also, how long after taking Klonopin should I wait to take phenazepam so as not to have a synergistic effect? Lastly, would a scale that measures to .001g be sufficient for weighing out something to dilute in water?
 
Sorry to rant. But, I have some questions regarding phenazepam. I have a ~1mg a day Klonopin habit, so I'm tolerant to benzo's (I barely feel anything anymore, just relief from my anxiety). What would be a good dose of phenazepam? I would plan on .5mg to start to be safe. Also, how long after taking Klonopin should I wait to take phenazepam so as not to have a synergistic effect? Lastly, would a scale that measures to .001g be sufficient for weighing out something to dilute in water?

Start at the 0.5mg dose of phenaz and redose *carefully* as necessary. It takes a couple of hrs to take effect so be patient with your re-dosing

My guess is that because you're benzo-aware & already using em, you'll find 0.5mg a low dose, but start there anyway...better safe than sorry...

@daddysgone: Sorry, but I'm still of the opinion that doses of phenazepam can be eyeballed WITH CARE[/B]
 
You are correct, but if you read what I wrote I said,

I am convinced that if one makes an accurate, uniform solution and doses responsibly, we would not hear the horror stories regarding this substance.

Eating handfulls of pills or powders is not "dosing responsibly".

I firmly believe that there is nothing intrinsic to phenazepam which makes it more likely to produce blackouts and other negative consequences then other benzos.
-DG

Yeah man, I know what you said... I was agreeing. I was just saying horror stories and benzos are kind of inseparably intertwined naturally... not that phenazepam is any more likely or less likely than any other benzo to cause the craziness. Of course, moderation and common sense are the bigggest factors when handling any benzo, and with this partucular one in its pure form, common sense dictates smart dosing methods (liquid measurement, etc).
 
Sorry to rant. But, I have some questions regarding phenazepam. I have a ~1mg a day Klonopin habit, so I'm tolerant to benzo's (I barely feel anything anymore, just relief from my anxiety). What would be a good dose of phenazepam? I would plan on .5mg to start to be safe. Also, how long after taking Klonopin should I wait to take phenazepam so as not to have a synergistic effect? Lastly, would a scale that measures to .001g be sufficient for weighing out something to dilute in water?


Try fist with 0.5mg. I got effects from 0.5mg and I have a uge tolerence to alcool
 
imagine it guys, take a pharm approved for market in a major country, then take it in the same dosage range as recomended, it works its a miracle!

actaully, its a good thread, showing responsible researched use being key. Dont be careful? you will blackout and loose days. careful? enjoy a good nights rest!
 
^Yep, that's what we're trying to get across. Responsible use of phenazepam is totally possible (and really not that difficult given you invest a bit of time in accurately measuring your doses)!
 
I would stay away from this stuff. My best friend got like 30 dollars worth after doing a google search. well the dumbass got hooked now he is trying to taper his dose with no scales its like watching a train wreck in slow motion. best part is the company completed like 3 shipments then stole his money the last time insult to injury i say.
 
Well I know I need a benzo for anxiety, and I intend to use this chemical with the utmost respect. I hear the half life is 60 hours. With 1 gram at .5 mg doses every 3 days or so, I'm hoping not to become addicted. If I do, I'll realize it by the time I get to 200 mg and begin to taper off. Simple, and better than drinking alcohol every day.
 
I should have some info to add to this soon. I have 100mg that should be here tomorrow, monday at the latest. I have already recieved my 100% propylene glycol and have a 100ml pyrex flask to measure it in. I plan on doing the 1ml/1mg solution that most people recommend. I have not taken any benzos in awhile but still have quite a bit of experience/ tolerance to them. I plan on starting out with .5-.75 ml/mg, then waiting at least 2 days before trying again, even if that dose has no effect. I'd like to make sure that even a low dose doesn't cause amnesia, and grogginess the next morning. As others have mentioned, it seems that most of the problems are just a matter of improper dosage. I'll report back on my results.
 
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