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On May 22 there is a rave coming to town. In a way I do wanna roll but I also don't want to roll.

Pros
Great Indescribable feeling at the rave

Cons
Loss of appetite
Unable to sleep after
Loss of weight
Long damage to brain
(Possibly more)

Is there anything else I can do at a rave to have a great experience. Can someone convince to me that E is actually very well worth doing.

Yes I know how to take E safely
No I do not take it frequently(3-4 times a year)
I'm 17 years old 145 lbs 6'0

Thx in advance BL :)
 
man iv done and abused the drug it fucks with you, just use the drug don't let it use you. If youv already rolled before which is what i thin your saying than as long as you have waited a good month before your next roll then go ahead enjoy the wonders of mdma!! Remeber moderation is the key!
 
The rule of thumb with any drug is once the comedowns start to outweigh the highs, it's time to stop. It sounds like you've got a ton of cons for only one pro, so...

I'm sure you're getting tired of me saying this, but you really don't need to do E at a rave to have fun. In fact, you don't need to do anything -- listening to music you love loud with a bunch of like-minded people is a high in itself in my humble opinion. :)

If you're really set on altering your consciousness, you might want to try another drug. Alcohol and marijuana (edibles, since they last longer) are fairly safe choices. I personally like using LSD or mushrooms at raves on occasion, but you should be experienced with those substances before you use them in public. You could try an energy shot drink; I've found that those make staying up and dancing for nine hours a little more bearable. :p

Once again, I urge you to not be afraid to try going to a rave sober. While being on drugs has obvious advantages, there's a lot you notice when you're sober...if nothing else, at least how people look when they're not. ;) If you end up being bored and not having a good time, hey, there's always other raves, but at least you can say you tried it.

EDIT: Also, from the sound of your cons, I'm guessing you're getting a lot of speed in your pills. Try finding cleaner E (e.g. with more MDMA than adulterants) and the comedowns will be a lot gentler. You really should get a testing kit, but I can appreciate how hard that can be when you're not an adult. If you manage to get hold of a credit card, EZtest.com is a great place to get one from...if not, DanceSafe.org still takes cash as far as I know.
 
If you don't take it regularly I am going to assume youve abused it in the past? I wouldnt think youd have so many negative effects. MDMA shouldnt make you lose sleep at all, it should be easy to sleep, and when I wake up I have a huge appetite so idk about that either. and weight loss...wtf you dont really lose weight while rolling, it's just water. I mean you could lose a pound of fat, if you're fat and dancing your ass off I suppose, but otherwise no..

If the negative effects affect you enough to have a conflict such as this I wouldnt do it.
 
It's not really gonna make you lose a lot of weight since you don't abuse it. And, if you get good rolls, you shouldn't have any trouble at all sleeping. I agree completely with RGB. Take his word.
 
Thank you guys for responding.
The reason why I roll at raves is because it keeps me awake. Last time when I went sober I was sitting down all night waiting for the rave to end. Raves usually last from 10PM-8AM
I'm for sure not an abuser. I've done it about 3-4 times in my life and I usually take 1-2 pills vs my friends who take 5-7. I'm tittled as the Light Weight lol.
The loss of weight could possibly be me dancing for hours all night without sleep.

I've only got one experience where it was nothing but perfection. Great long lasting high. Didnt feel crummy after. Slept like baby ate like a pig. Wish I could get that blue pill again. :(
 
Fair enough, and kudos to you again for taking a normal dose and leaving a good amount of time between rolls. I know it's a weak suggestion, but maybe an energy drink...?

If you want to continue to use E and not suffer from horrible comedowns, I recommend trying to find a better dealer, because it seems like whoever is selling you pills doesn't know or care that there's a lot of speed in them. Don't buy at raves if you can help it; people usually off-load their bad pills there because it's harder to hold them accountable. Again, I recommend a testing kit; it really does pay off in not getting bunk/dangerous pills.

I hope you figure it out...nobody can make the decision but you, but honestly if I had to choose between not rolling and having a tweaked-out comedown, I'd go for not rolling. :\
 
I applaud you man for being 17 (not much older than I was when I first found e) and being able to practice moderation.

MDMA is not like pot, or anything else really. You HAVE to space your uses- take long periods of abstinence between drops and you won't be brain damaged. I suggest reading up on Erowid on the drug, you'll find that neurotoxicity is debatable, and hardly a factor whatsoever with responsible use.

As for rolling at a rave... I've personally never done anything in a very public setting. I don't like worrying about getting caught. It's a huge buzzkill. But that's just me. Be safe and happy rolling!
 
Alright Thank You Very Much Your Suggestions.
I've made a final verdict. I'm going to quit rolling for life. The drug is just so bad(Well the garbage I've gotten). I've weighed out the pros and cons. And I decided to quit. Who knows if I'll stick to my word but for now I quit. I'm possibly going to try drinking/energy shot at the next rave.
 
MrMan737 said:
I applaud you man for being 17 (not much older than I was when I first found e) and being able to practice moderation.

MDMA is not like pot, or anything else really. You HAVE to space your uses- take long periods of abstinence between drops and you won't be brain damaged. I suggest reading up on Erowid on the drug, you'll find that neurotoxicity is debatable, and hardly a factor whatsoever with responsible use.

As for rolling at a rave... I've personally never done anything in a very public setting. I don't like worrying about getting caught. It's a huge buzzkill. But that's just me. Be safe and happy rolling!
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Ok thank you I will read right now.
 
I think its a shame for someone to quit because they get bad pills and give mdma a bad name in their minds. If I were you Id source some molly and forget about pills altogether, no sleep loss, mood lift, great appetite etc. Hard reduction -> find molly
 
fatstep said:
I think its a shame for someone to quit because they get bad pills and give mdma a bad name in their minds. If I were you Id source some molly and forget about pills altogether, no sleep loss, mood lift, great appetite etc. Hard reduction -> find molly
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molly is prime sooooooo much better. to bad i have to wait another 4 months before my next use :( that's what happens when you abuse!!
 
Well, there's always a chance of buying something that's either cut badly or something that's not mdma being sold as it, but Ive found the crystal mdma scene to be much more honest, mainly I suppose because most dealers do the mdma. Basically stick to any rule, if it's a powder don't buy it, if it's crystals you should be good, if it's little crystals smashed but looks kind of powdery until further inspection itll still be good. With molly you have a much better chance of getting just mdma than with pills, that's why I find it superior.
 
fatstep said:
I think its a shame for someone to quit because they get bad pills and give mdma a bad name in their minds. If I were you Id source some molly and forget about pills altogether, no sleep loss, mood lift, great appetite etc. Hard reduction -> find molly
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I agree. From the OP's first post, it sounds like hes been getting speedy tabs with possible no MDMA. I've rolled twice as much as he has and haven't lost any weight or had any problems sleeping at all. I get good pills though, thats what is the difference between him and I. MDMA is so wonderful, I don't think he should give it up so easily.
 
rypieNGG, I'm going to agree with the others who have given you props for taking a reasonably wise approach to MDMA use ... you're demonstrating a lot more wisdom than most people your age exercise when using this drug.

I think several other people, most notably RGB, have covered your concerns in this thread really well, so I'm only going to add one thing ... at some point you're going to meet someone who you really like, and enter a romantic/sexual relationship with them, and it'll be better than any relationship you will have ever experienced up until that point. At that point, it'll probably going to be worth your while to revisit MDMA. I'm not going to tell you that you're making a poor choice by giving it up now. By all means, it's a good idea to stop using MDMA now. However, I also think that you'll find it to be a good idea to start using it again later on in life. Age 17 is hardly time to fully appreciate MDMA. The longer you wait, the better the payoff will be.
 
fatstep said:
Well, there's always a chance of buying something that's either cut badly or something that's not mdma being sold as it, but Ive found the crystal mdma scene to be much more honest, mainly I suppose because most dealers do the mdma. Basically stick to any rule, if it's a powder don't buy it, if it's crystals you should be good, if it's little crystals smashed but looks kind of powdery until further inspection itll still be good. With molly you have a much better chance of getting just mdma than with pills, that's why I find it superior.
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THank you I will for sure follow this rule if in the future I do it.
 
Pans-Advocate said:
rypieNGG, I'm going to agree with the others who have given you props for taking a reasonably wise approach to MDMA use ... you're demonstrating a lot more wisdom than most people your age exercise when using this drug.

I think several other people, most notably RGB, have covered your concerns in this thread really well, so I'm only going to add one thing ... at some point you're going to meet someone who you really like, and enter a romantic/sexual relationship with them, and it'll be better than any relationship you will have ever experienced up until that point. At that point, it'll probably going to be worth your while to revisit MDMA. I'm not going to tell you that you're making a poor choice by giving it up now. By all means, it's a good idea to stop using MDMA now. However, I also think that you'll find it to be a good idea to start using it again later on in life. Age 17 is hardly time to fully appreciate MDMA. The longer you wait, the better the payoff will be.
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ALright thank you I will keep that in mind
 
rypieNGG said:
On May 22 there is a rave coming to town. In a way I do wanna roll but I also don't want to roll.

Pros
Great Indescribable feeling at the rave (HELL YES)

Cons
Loss of appetite.... (only for 24 hours, and you can drink juice for energy)
Unable to sleep after... get some benzos, or even some diphenhydramine or other sedative, soma, meprobamate etc...
Loss of weight.... using MDMA once will not lead to weight loss
Long damage to brain... its highly unlikely thet using MDMA once will cause any damage to the brain, its only an issue really if you're using often for a long time
(Possibly more)

Is there anything else I can do at a rave to have a great experience. Can someone convince to me that E is actually very well worth doing.

Yes I know how to take E safely
No I do not take it frequently(3-4 times a year)
I'm 17 years old 145 lbs 6'0

Thx in advance BL :)
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If you don't want to roll at the rave you could try acid, speed, cocaine (not my fav) or 2Cx or somthing, they can be great raving drugs...
 
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