Salvia 20x for a first time tripper: Is it safe?
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You have only smoked Marijuana a few times, do you like it?
Do you have an anxiety about taking the Salvia (Take Note, having any anxiety before a Trip can make it a bad one)
20x is not all that big and may not even work.
You need to always have an uplifted attitude on drugs.
Anyways, Salvia is different anything could happen your first time.
Do you have an anxiety about taking the Salvia (Take Note, having any anxiety before a Trip can make it a bad one)
20x is not all that big and may not even work.
You need to always have an uplifted attitude on drugs.
Anyways, Salvia is different anything could happen your first time.
daysonatrain
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personally if 20x salvia was my first trip i would never return to the wonderful land of psychedelics. salvia extract is the most brutal of all hallucinogens imo. personally, if you do end up trying it, try acid, shrooms mescaline or dmt after it as they are COMPLETELY different and much much much more enjoyable.
(if you cant guess i dont really hold salvia in high esteem)
(if you cant guess i dont really hold salvia in high esteem)
Sentience
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I would take a tiny little hit of 20x if you plan to as your first trip....tiny.
5x blew me away.
However, 10x is NOT 2x as powerful as 5x. Every X is the number of times they soak it. Each time it absorbs a little less. Its not an exact measure of how much they concentrated it.
Still, Salvia is comparable to DMT in a deleriant sort of way. Not to be underestimated. Sometimes Salvia 'doesnt let you in'. The reason for this is a mystery, but I do not for a second believe that it can be explained solely through smoking technique. I believe that it might possibly be tied to brain wave states.
5x blew me away.
However, 10x is NOT 2x as powerful as 5x. Every X is the number of times they soak it. Each time it absorbs a little less. Its not an exact measure of how much they concentrated it.
Still, Salvia is comparable to DMT in a deleriant sort of way. Not to be underestimated. Sometimes Salvia 'doesnt let you in'. The reason for this is a mystery, but I do not for a second believe that it can be explained solely through smoking technique. I believe that it might possibly be tied to brain wave states.
aussieblues
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Salvia isn't that great in my opinion, I've smoked 40x ~20 times and was ultimately unimpressed. The few effects that it did give me were unpleasant, like oversensitivity to touch (every place my clothes touch me during the first 5 minutes feels like it's badly sunburnt), and a feeling of being pulled to my room by invisible threads. If you're interested, then, yes, I would suggest giving it a try. If you're not interested, there's your answer. Personally I would suggest psilocybin or LSD for your first trip.
Yes, I have smoked it. 20x barely did anything to me. I tried 40x and had an alright trip. Now illegal in Ohio, not fun or recreational.
aussieblues
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I should, however, say that my friend who tripped with me during most of my experiences with salvia says he had really positive and enjoyable experiences, after one trip he even reported seeing what he believed was heaven. The only visual experience I had with it was whilst lying in bed, listening to Jimi Hendrix with my eyes closed; in this instance I saw the earth spinning, it then divided into slices (like an orange), but as it split it was as if it was only the peel (the center was hollow), these slivers then turned into different neon colors that slid/dripped down (like Dali's clocks) and transformed into (still neon colored) naked women, who danced interpretively to the music. These CEVs lasted maybe 3-5 minutes tops, and I've experienced nothing remotely similar since.
Ramirez
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My first time, I just laughed a lot and felt like I was being pushed/pulled backward. It was my first psychedelic, too, but I was already aware that it wasn't like any other.
Second time (there's a trip report I wrote) I believe there to be a Puppetmaster, and the cieling fan took on interesting forms.
It leaves me feeling very angry, bitter, and short-tempered the next day though, but I think that had to do with a bad setting more than anything.
A gram of 20X for 20 dollars is a pretty good deal, too, some headshops charge you a lot more for that. I say go for it on the value alone.
Second time (there's a trip report I wrote) I believe there to be a Puppetmaster, and the cieling fan took on interesting forms.
It leaves me feeling very angry, bitter, and short-tempered the next day though, but I think that had to do with a bad setting more than anything.
A gram of 20X for 20 dollars is a pretty good deal, too, some headshops charge you a lot more for that. I say go for it on the value alone.
Just take a big hit off a bong of the shit, like .1 in one or two hits and hold it in as long as you can, you probably wont be in this world let alone be able to walk around/talk to people for about 5 minutes then youll be back. Ive never had any clue about reality while actually tripping on salvia, unless you get a sub-threshold dose I doubt you would either
Senator Lennon
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My first salvia trip some dick friends let me take a HUGE hit of 35x. I was blown away. Out of this universe, I saw God, and I saw how insignificantly tiny our universe was, there are no words to describe my trip. It was absolutely mind enhancing, and changed my life. I have a pretty positive record with hallucinogens, and I really like being...completely gone. For a first time trip, I would not recommend this. I would start on 5x or 10x, and remember the first time sometimes the effects don't come on. If you are looking for a good mood with light visuals, which I recommend for first trips, this is the method. Then explore how you feel about this and decide if you want to go further.
If you go too far, and you have a bad trip, it can be a very, very, very bad trip. And because you know what you are smoking(I didn't) there's a greater chance you will be nervous about it, like it or not, and that can lead to a bad trip. Try something light, so you know you aren't gonna be too blown away, and you're more likely to have a good trip, and explore from there.
If you go too far, and you have a bad trip, it can be a very, very, very bad trip. And because you know what you are smoking(I didn't) there's a greater chance you will be nervous about it, like it or not, and that can lead to a bad trip. Try something light, so you know you aren't gonna be too blown away, and you're more likely to have a good trip, and explore from there.
I'm making sure that I'd be going into it when I am completely free of anxiety. It'd be terrible to have the first trip to be a bad trip, so I'd definitely save it for when the time is right.
I know that shrooms/lsd are better alternatives, but unfortunately I don't have access to those around here right now
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I'm almost sure I'll be buying it now. Would you advise doing it in a controlled environment, such as my room, or somewhere with the open sky, like a park? Also, is music a yes or a no?
I know that shrooms/lsd are better alternatives, but unfortunately I don't have access to those around here right now
. I'm almost sure I'll be buying it now. Would you advise doing it in a controlled environment, such as my room, or somewhere with the open sky, like a park? Also, is music a yes or a no?
HB Pencil
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I have tried salvia both with close friends and alone, had bad trips both times.
Pranged out big time, thought that my friends were all in on some huge practical joke that i was the butt of.
When i was alone i still found it scary, during the trip i didnt know that i was tripping in the traditional sense, once the salvia started kicking in i totally forgot i'd even taken a hit.
small bongs of 40x
Wouldnt reccomend it for outside unless you want to look like a madman, when your in the intense part you wont be in control of your actions really.
Have fun
Pranged out big time, thought that my friends were all in on some huge practical joke that i was the butt of.
When i was alone i still found it scary, during the trip i didnt know that i was tripping in the traditional sense, once the salvia started kicking in i totally forgot i'd even taken a hit.
small bongs of 40x
Wouldnt reccomend it for outside unless you want to look like a madman, when your in the intense part you wont be in control of your actions really.
Have fun
Sega420
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dont listen to the negativity man.
just make sure u are with ONE friend u can trust to not fuck with you.
get a bong with no water. milk the hit (make it a fat bowl).
hold in the hit for as long as u can.
then exhaleeeeeeeeee and slip into another dimension.
seriously man dont worry about it. 20x aint that strong tbh, but you WILL be trippin.
put on some nice music before, too.
and oh yeah, SIT DOWN for it.
enjoy your experience man
just make sure u are with ONE friend u can trust to not fuck with you.
get a bong with no water. milk the hit (make it a fat bowl).
hold in the hit for as long as u can.
then exhaleeeeeeeeee and slip into another dimension.
seriously man dont worry about it. 20x aint that strong tbh, but you WILL be trippin.
put on some nice music before, too.
and oh yeah, SIT DOWN for it.
enjoy your experience man
Oh1o0hwhyO
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Is it really illegal in Ohio now? I hadn't heard about that.
To the OP: I'm not a big fan of it I've tried it once (10x) and I found the experience to be quite uncomfortable and I was left with a bad headache after. But I know a lot of people that really seem to like it and do it somewhat regularly, so it seems to depend on the person like anything else. With that said, I would say buy it. Just to have it if down the road you decide for sure you want to try it, you will have it. You never know when you wont be able to get it at all.
Sega420
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$20 is a great price for 20x strength.
just make sure you dry bong it.
in pipes and joints it wont do anything to ya as you need to inhale a large volume of smoke all at once to trip off it.
and dont do it too often as it can and will fuck your mind if you do it every day/weekend.
just make sure you dry bong it.
in pipes and joints it wont do anything to ya as you need to inhale a large volume of smoke all at once to trip off it.
and dont do it too often as it can and will fuck your mind if you do it every day/weekend.
Bardeaux
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My first few salvia experiences were with 20x. The first 2-3 times I tried it I couldnt break through and thought that either I had gotten bunk salvia or that salvia in general was way overrated and weak. But then I took a very effective hit and was blown away. It was way more intense than I was expecting and I was totally caught off guard.
Imo, having minor anxiety before the trip is normal when experimenting with any new drug. For me, it didnt matter how I was feeling before-hand because my mood completely changed once the salvia sensations began. I dont find salvia to be good or bad really, its kind of neutral in my experience.
I would give it a shot if I were you. Theres nothing to lose really, if the experience is too strong for you just remember it will be over in a matter of minutes.
Imo, having minor anxiety before the trip is normal when experimenting with any new drug. For me, it didnt matter how I was feeling before-hand because my mood completely changed once the salvia sensations began. I dont find salvia to be good or bad really, its kind of neutral in my experience.
I would give it a shot if I were you. Theres nothing to lose really, if the experience is too strong for you just remember it will be over in a matter of minutes.
Sega420
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time does not apply when on salvia though
MD Specialist
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Don't Do 20X For First Time!
Salvia is fucking crazy! Salvia is fucking crazy. I did that shit twice and that was enough for me for the rest of my life. I didn't like because you lose total control. Stay in your or a friends house, and if you want to do it outside go in a backyard, don't do it around the general public. With mushrooms and LSD your trippin for a long time and as long as you don't take to much, it is controllable. Salvia you take one (BIG) hit hold it in as long as you can and you'll be out of your mind for a good 5-10 min. It WILL be the craziest minutes of your life.
And you can have music on but once that shit kicks in you probably wont even hear it.
Be safe and have fun.
Salvia is fucking crazy! Salvia is fucking crazy. I did that shit twice and that was enough for me for the rest of my life. I didn't like because you lose total control. Stay in your or a friends house, and if you want to do it outside go in a backyard, don't do it around the general public. With mushrooms and LSD your trippin for a long time and as long as you don't take to much, it is controllable. Salvia you take one (BIG) hit hold it in as long as you can and you'll be out of your mind for a good 5-10 min. It WILL be the craziest minutes of your life.
And you can have music on but once that shit kicks in you probably wont even hear it.
Be safe and have fun.
Cloudburst
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Salvia 15x extract seems to be the best bang for your buck if you wish to do it again and cannot get such a great deal as you did now. Who cares about extract strength as long as the dose is proper? Pretty simple. I'm guessing a lot of these reports regarding high extracts are from reckless doses? It's simple math really. Based on simple mathematics (as 5x doses tend to be the standard around the net), about 1/20th of a gram for an average dose on 20x. Please don't try to break through first time. This isn't DMT. My dosage advice may be wrong though I am convinced it is right, it is not wise to rely on one person regarding this situation. You may find it very unpleasant like many people and be extremely thankful you didn't fuck yourself over with a first-time breakthrough.
There's nothing you can do to prepare for the trip either. Trust me.
There's nothing you can do to prepare for the trip either. Trust me.