Ketamine hangover - HELP ME

[SugarFree88]

Alright, i'm a 22 yrs old italian girl and i'm scared as hell.

I've been using ketamine for a year and did it 30-35 times. I always tried to stay low with doses (100-200mg) and to me its still quite a bit of a dose since i weight 70kg or 154lbs. The last time i snorted the whole k bag (450-500mg). It was wonderful. I was litterally floating in mid air.

Now i'm scared as fuck since after more than a week after using K i can still feel a goddamn strong hangover. I feel tired, when it's dark i see shapes that dont exist, if a stare at an object, that thing keeps moving and stretching. With my eyes closed i still see some weak CEVs.
Above all, i still feel out of reality and my short term memory is almost fucked.
During the last 2 or 3 days (i just can't remember) i cried almost every hour.

Tell me what the fuck i should do. I feel like this will be forever..
Anyone experiencing the same thing? Smoking pot could help me?
What the fuck in my head isnt working properly? Serotonine receptors? Dopamine receptors?
I will NEVER do that shit again. How stupid i was looking for ketamine when i can have almost all the mescaline i want. Damn.

Thank you,

Adriana

P.S. Sorry for my english, but my brain isnt working properly right now

 

[Sega420]

there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with your english. it is PERFECT.


the thing you should do, is refrain from ALL drugs for at least a week.
this includes caffeine, alcohol, and cannabis.

hopefully after a week of good sleep, exercise, and healthy eating your body will return to its normal balance.
the thing most people don't realize about ketamine is it is a dissociative anaesthetic.
depending on how often you take it and how much you take, the effects can linger in your body,
just like if you smoke too much herb, you feel sluggish for a few days after.

im not sure on the action of Ket on the serotonin & dopamine receptors,
but im sure you'll be fine.


really though this is your own doing but at least you know your limits now.
you have to crawl before you can walk.
(get used to upping your dosage before you can handle a high dose)


last time i snorted 500mg i couldnt move for an hour and i had a horrible trip.
my bob marley poster was looking at me in disgust and my room was the site of a nuclear blast.
i had never been more scared in my life.
needless to say that was the last time i did ketamine.

now i stick with mushrooms, cannabis, and LSD.


hopefully you wont feel like this for too much longer.

 

[bunkiie]

good luck, it's a few months later and I'm just finally feelinglike I've come out of this awful nitemare. Stick with what the guy above said. Ketamine is for animals. It bugs me seeing so many threads about it on here. Nothing wrong with exploring consciousness. But this k trend needs to end.

You all create a separate personality and then use psychs on top, which is a lame way to be using these substances. It does nothing to benefit you in the end. Keep the ndma you have already and stop letting the scenes get infiltrated with this. Turns you into a complete egomanic, quite a pointless psychological battle for ego loss. You feel like you're out of your body because your senses are cut off so much and you're AWAKE trying to do things. Just smoke pot and lay on the floor and meditate. Don't waste your brains with this stuff.

It'll all get better dude. Just try to focus on before. And move forward with those regained senses. Give into the tears. That IS you crying from underneath the mask. Now fly!

 

[SugarFree88]

Thanks man, this means my brain is still in a good shape.

The funny thing is that even when i take something like 3 Super Hoffman blotters, the next day i feel like a woman reborn, without any kind of hangover and without any kind of CEV. With eyes closed i see nothing. Nothing. Same things happens with mushrooms, mescaline, DMT and 5-Meo-DMT.
With cannabis i have a kind of hangover, but it's still a 24, at least 36 hours hangover, nothing more, then it's over.
Now i let this new substance into my life, just to let everyone know that i dont have prejudices against new drugs, and what happens? Shit, shit, SHIT!

I will NEVER do Ketamine again, NEVER!
I'm gonna take a break from all substances, starting now.

It's just like an acid trip coming down since april 1th (yes, it has happened during the fool's day, just like having almost an HPPD wasnt enough). I'm fucking hallucinated. All those fucking fractals and meaningless things moving around. Damn.

Since i used to snort heroin, this is not fun. I feel depressed and i still know where to get it. I'm afraid if that this thing continues, i'm gonna snort heroin again. I feel like shit.

Thanks man, i appreciated your emphaty so much

Adriana

 

[SugarFree88]

good luck, it's a few months later and I'm just finally feelinglike I've come out of this awful nitemare. Stick with what the guy above said. Ketamine is for animals. It bugs me seeing so many threads about it on here. Nothing wrong with exploring consciousness. But this k trend needs to end.

It'll all get better dude. Just try to focus on before. And move forward with those regained senses. Give into the tears. That IS you crying from underneath the mask. Now fly!

It's not "dude"... technically it's "dudette"... did you know that?

Many threads about it on here... man Ketamine fucking sucks! I could have had all the mescaline i wanted and i choose K! I'm a goddamn fucktard!
Alright, i'll give it into the tears, i know that if i dont cry my soul out i'm gonna snort heroin again. I'm almost sure i'll do it.

What a fucking joke, LSD and mescaline helped me so much with heroin, and now i'll have to use heroin again. Pot just isnt enough and i dont wanna touch bendodiazepines. I dont know how you felt but i feel like a pile of shit ran over by a truck.
If just i could have a Salvia Divinorum plant in my house. It's a dissociative but it doesnt fuck you like K does.

If i'm gonna snort heroin again because K did me this, man, that wouldnt be funny.

Thanks for the emphaty, thank you so much
My friends are still snorting K everyday and they dont believe me almost at all.

Adriana

 

[Black]

it looks like some people are just more susceptible to the after effects of dissociatives. i've tried a tiny dose of ketamine once that barely gave me a little 'drunk' feeling and didn't feel normal (dulled perception, couldn't concentrate, feeling not wholly awake) for the next week. and after one ballon of nitrous i feel a bit out of it for the whole day.
don't worry too much and try not to do anything you will regret later. give it some time and it will go away. i'd suggest not doing any drugs in the next few weeks and in future staying away from dissociatives, which you are most likely going to do anyway and being very careful with weed; it does have some dissociative properties.

i wish you all the best

 

[micky_mouse]

why do you HAVE to start doing heroin again? do you have to be snorting at least one drug?

 

[SugarFree88]

it looks like some people are just more susceptible to the after effects of dissociatives. i've tried a tiny dose of ketamine once that barely gave me a little 'drunk' feeling and didn't feel normal (dulled perception, couldn't concentrate, feeling not wholly awake) for the next week. and after one ballon of nitrous i feel a bit out of it for the whole day.
don't worry too much and try not to do anything you will regret later. give it some time and it will go away. i'd suggest not doing any drugs in the next few weeks and in future staying away from dissociatives, which you are most likely going to do anyway and being very careful with weed; it does have some dissociative properties.

i wish you all the best

I wish you all the best too

Weed has never gave me such a hangover, its dissociative properties have to be very little. This summer i smoked at least 20g of 00 hash in a week and nothing like this happened. Weed is a safe drug for me.
It's only with Ketamine. Salvia Divinorum is a heavy dissociative drug but when it's gone i feel just great.

Give it some time and it will go away, i hope. Sure i wont touch Ketamine, PCP and DXM no more in my entire fucking life.

Shit, i can still feel the taste in my nose.

 

[SugarFree88]

why do you HAVE to start doing heroin again? do you have to be snorting at least one drug?

I started snorting heroin because after high school my life started to be a complete mess. Once you snort heroin, you cant go back.

You know that heroin would dissolve completely every problem, any physical or psychological pain, and since my life is still a mess and this hangover hit me harder than i ever thought.
I tried both Heroin and LSD. You know how bad you can feel during a bad trip. Sometimes heroin, even if you stopped using it, can make you feel even worse, as it's hard to believe.

 

[micky_mouse]

^
so why would you want to go back? the way it seems to me is "im not doing K anymore, back to heroin!"

 

[Sega420]

well, cannabis doesnt cause hangovers. just "burnouts" if you smoke too much.
a good rule -
if you're already blazed as fuck, but simply like the act of smoking a bong or joint, buy some damiana.
its a reasonably tasty herb to smoke in place of ur weed.

sometimes when im stoned as a rock and i dont wanna waste my stash, i pack a few bowls of damiana, as i love the act of smoking a bong.
also, damiana is a natural calming herb, (and an aphrodisiac) and is also good for the reproductive system when made into a tea. cheap also.

also id say that cannabis isnt a disassociative, but more of a mild hallucinogen/sedative.
if you are feeling depressed for no reason and getting urges to do heroin, then i
take back what i said about not smoking ganj.
in your case i would strongly recommend you smoke some herb (but in a bong, as it lasts SOOO much longer, and a tiny amount gets you baaaaaked).

willie nelson smoked herb, and he quit tobacco and alcohol.
cannabis puts you in touch with your soul and makes you not want to do shit that you KNOW will harm you.

what i would also recommend is if there are any health food shops (if not, check the internet) near you,
you should buy some 5-HT or 5-HTP (not sure which its called);
this is a natural serotonin re-upper. it is the only natural way to rebalance your serotonin levels.


as far as heroin goes, please don't go back. not just for you, but for all the people in your life.
no matter what you think, you are loved by many, im sure.

and also, no matter what you think, heroin just ends up making things 100x worse.
the spiral just goes deeper and deeper and gets harder to get out of...

if you want to talk, ill PM you my email adress if you have MSN messenger. (i also have AIM)
you sound like a nice person, and I'd like to help.
(and no it aint to flirt with you as im halfway round the world! )

 

[SugarFree88]

^
so why would you want to go back? the way it seems to me is "im not doing K anymore, back to heroin!"

Again, when you tried heroin and you find yourself in a messy situation, you're gonna have a violent temptation to snort heroin once more.

 

[caroline55]

Sugar free88 you've started a very heavy thread!!
I don't know what is going on in your life that you have to do one thing or another but from my own experience you enjoy drugs more if you dont have a lot of shit going on in your life.
What I would do is get sober and clean, only then will you be in a right frame of mind to sort out the shit that is afecting your real outside world and your inside emotional world. Find a reason!!hope!!Fuck off the people you need to fuck off and reach to the people you need to reach to, and most of all reach to find your self, your place and your reason!!
Stay away from Heroin, I have lost many friends to it and will loose some more very soon!!
If you like doing so large amounts of acid, use the trips and experiances in a positive way.
I think if you have a bad trip, you have something to overcome and accept!!!once you over come all your fears and insecurities every trip will be a good one!!
Anyway enough of that!
Peace

 

[Draculen]

Everyone gets effected differently when it comes to k, and all psychoactives even. Ive been doing k for 5 years now. and had an episode a few days ago that im just recovering from now, I IV'd my last 100mg. felt great for the first 20 mins but after that I had the most intense headache ive ever felt, havent felt normal since that night. When I lean over or try to stand up there is immediate pain in the back on my head and in the frontal lobes almost like my brain and swelling up and pressing again my skull. My advice is lay off dissociatives for a long while. and dont trade one bad thing for another by doing H, nows your chance to find healthy outlets and better things to do with your time.

Wish you the best, Message me if you ever want to talk.

 

[burn out]

I think you're going to be ok. The last time I took ketamine, it took 2 days for me to feel normal again. I've also had an experience with nitrous oxide, where I thought I had fucked myself up permanently but recovered after a week.

Chances are, you will recover from this and be completely back to normal. I don't know how long it will take, it could be in another week or so or it could be longer. But your brain will gradually stabilize over time.

In the mean time, I recommend not using any drugs and trying to eat as healthy a diet as you can. I don't recommend dietary supplemets.

 

[SugarFree88]

Wish you the best, Message me if you ever want to talk.

if you want to talk, ill PM you my email adress if you have MSN messenger. (i also have AIM)
you sound like a nice person, and I'd like to help.
(and no it aint to flirt with you as im halfway round the world! )

Aaaaaw you all are so lovely

Thanks, i'll try to resist. Don't know how, maybe i may light a cig anytime i feel like i'm about to go out to get H.

Anyway something is getting better (walls are starting to move slower when i stare at them) and something is getting worse (when i look somewhere else and my slippers are still in my eye field they look like they're almost as close as my hands to my head).

I do hope everyone who's planning to take big doses of K will read this before, man, i'll say that again, i'm still in the K world. Reality is not coming back. I feel lost.

 

[SugarFree88]

I think you're going to be ok. The last time I took ketamine, it took 2 days for me to feel normal again. I've also had an experience with nitrous oxide, where I thought I had fucked myself up permanently but recovered after a week.

If i'm gonna be ok after this, i wont use Ketamine even for medical surgery.
That's a bad thing. Man think about that.
What if i crash with my car and they have to give me ketamine again. Damn.

I think i understood why i snorted ketamine during this year, that's because it works with opioids receptors too, maybe my body felt like this was something like heroine and wanted me to take more. Maybe.

I've flushed all the bags i had down the toilet btw. Made me feel better.

 

[Jamshyd]

Alright, i'm a 22 yrs old italian girl and i'm scared as hell.

I've been using ketamine for a year and did it 30-35 times. I always tried to stay low with doses (100-200mg) and to me its still quite a bit of a dose since i weight 70kg or 154lbs. The last time i snorted the whole k bag (450-500mg). It was wonderful. I was litterally floating in mid air.

Now i'm scared as fuck since after more than a week after using K i can still feel a goddamn strong hangover. I feel tired, when it's dark i see shapes that dont exist, if a stare at an object, that thing keeps moving and stretching. With my eyes closed i still see some weak CEVs.
Above all, i still feel out of reality and my short term memory is almost fucked.
During the last 2 or 3 days (i just can't remember) i cried almost every hour.

Tell me what the fuck i should do. I feel like this will be forever..
Anyone experiencing the same thing? Smoking pot could help me?
What the fuck in my head isnt working properly? Serotonine receptors? Dopamine receptors?
I will NEVER do that shit again. How stupid i was looking for ketamine when i can have almost all the mescaline i want. Damn.

Thank you,

Adriana

P.S. Sorry for my english, but my brain isnt working properly right now

You have a "hangover" because what you snorted was not Ketamine. Or at least, not 100%.

Why? Because:

a. Ketamine does not cause "hangover". Abusing it for weeks then stopping might make you slow and fuzz your memory (which generally goes away after a while), but Ketamine does not cause a hangover or a comedown of any sort.

b. The doses you talk about are NOT typical Ketamine. 400mg will knock anyone out. It is far from "wonderful," as you wake up feeling nauseous, confused, and not in control of your movement.

So, either your K was cut, or you were taking other drugs that you're not telling us about. Probably both.

The fact that you "can get all the mescaline you want" is enough to tell me that you have no idea what you're putting up your nose.

 

[ntype]

I find Vitamin B, and Vitamin C helpful to shift the dazed head feeling after K. Alo a lot of water. Sounds like this is taking some time.

Good luck!

 

[SugarFree88]

You have a "hangover" because what you snorted was not Ketamine. Or at least, not 100%.

Why? Because:

a. Ketamine does not cause "hangover". Abusing it for weeks then stopping might make you slow and fuzz your memory (which generally goes away after a while), but Ketamine does not cause a hangover or a comedown of any sort.

b. The doses you talk about are NOT typical Ketamine. 400mg will knock anyone out. It is far from "wonderful," as you wake up feeling nauseous, confused, and not in control of your movement.

So, either your K was cut, or you were taking other drugs that you're not telling us about. Probably both.

The fact that you "can get all the mescaline you want" is enough to tell me that you have no idea what you're putting up your nose.

As it's hard to believe, i actually know where to get mescaline. %)
I'm sure it's not cut, i'm sure its mescaline and not a tryptamine or 2C-x.
I wont tell you here why i'm sure it's mescaline, i just cant.
I'm sure i wasnt taking other drugs but pot and nicotine.

Also i'm not sure that what i snorted was 100% ketamine, but this perception disorder makes me think it was ketamine. There are medicians who could inject themselves with 4 to 7 grams of pure Ketalar S every DAY. As it's hard to believe, i can tell you where to look to check that out.

Adriana