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First acid trip, turned out to be DOB, long lasting negative effects.

I too have had a trip that profoundly changed the way my mind/thoughts worked. It took almost half a year for things to settle down. The out of body feeling is often reffered to as depersonilazation/derealization. It should get back to normal over time. I wouldnt take and meds for it, just let it work itself out naturally. Exercise could help significantly, as it did in my case.

Good luck man.


On what drug? You can't possibly be as bad off as someone damaged from DOB.

DOB causes physical damage of the brain as far as I can tell(from using it).

Not only do I have lasting anxiety from the horrible DOB trip that lacked insight, but I feel like it was worse for my body than 10 hits of dirty X tabs.
 
On what drug? You can't possibly be as bad off as someone damaged from DOB.

DOB causes physical damage of the brain as far as I can tell(from using it).

Not only do I have lasting anxiety from the horrible DOB trip that lacked insight, but I feel like it was worse for my body than 10 hits of dirty X tabs.


DOB dont cause any damage,I feel like reborn after.Worse than 10 dirty pillz? man you must had dirtiest garbage toxic blotters on earth,I saw reports of "dob" blotters with had every doX on it with various dosage + many side products,if you had something like that,I can understand how bad it was but it wasnt dob what caused it,pure dob is easy on body & mind except fast hearbeat.
 
What are you talking about killo? Any trip has the potential to be as bad on one psychedelic as it does on another. You probably shouldn't assume a drug causes brain damage and especially since its "as far as you can tell" and as far as I can tell your not a medical professional.
 
I think different psychedelics all have different potentials for bad trips. When I was new to psychedelics (I was using them about once or twice a week at the time, and had tripped about 4-6 times before this trip) I had an extremly bad trip on high dose DOM and it fucked me up, but not for that long. Also DOB is brain damaging, but a single trip on half a hit won't do shit. For your body DOx compounds suck, I have a large amount (at least 50 trips) of experience in this area. They're also proven to be bad for your heart, although they won't hurt you as much as 10 pills of ecstasy. By dirty roll you mean meth? Half a hit of DOB won't do any real tangible harm to you.

Recently (last november) I had a trip that destroyed me mentally. I did pharmahuasca (my first time doing huasca) mixed with mushrooms and lsd. I would've been fine with just the pharmahuasca and shrooms, but the lsd triggered a stage in the trip that was really hard for me mentally. I'm still recovering. That single trip made it impossible for me to truly interact with society, I was withdrawn from society and such before the trip, but it pushed it to a whole new level. I literally couldn't deal with other people, period. That lasted for a few months and I still have a lot of shitty problems with my brain, mainly extreme depression (I'm a chronic pot smoker, and that helps me with depression and anxiety, although it wouldn't help everyone) and very strong depersonalization disorder (caused by other drugs, brought out to a strong degree by the trip I'm speaking of) and HPPD.

I also had a lot of damage before that from excessive use of various substances. The only thing you can do is heal and live healthily.

I have two recomendations of things that worked (and are still working) quite well for me- L-Theanine and Rhodiole Rosea.

L-Theanine is the stuff in tea that makes you chill out. It's legal, not bad for you, not addictive, and not strong. It won't get you high, it'll just make you able to cope with otherwise unbearable situations (take 200 or 300 mg as a starting dose). It'll especially help with anxiety, I'd recomend trying it.

Rhodiola is the one that's recently become my favorite. It's healthy in many ways (for your heart) and I don't know of any harm it does. It also is an adaptogen, it helps you deal with stress and anxiety. It works great and is worth a try, I take 500 mg once or twice a day and I take L-Theanine at night.

I also take a variety of supplements -Tea extract, ginkgo biloba, selenium, L-Lysine, B and D vitamins, vegan DHA and sometimes a multivitamin, I live healthily and my diet is a well balanced vegetarian one. Another supplement that I didn't get much out of but that might be worth a shot is DMAE, which improves concentration and helps you function better.

Rhodiola and DMAE could help imrpove how your mind works quite a bit, especially Rhodiola. Don't feel bad about it, you haven't done much damage. Don't do psychedelic amphetamines anymore.

One last thing- the damage I have was brought out by that one trip. It existed from many other things (meth, benzos, booze, DXM, a lot of tripping on DOM and mushrooms and mescaline, a whole shitload of other stuff too). Also the trip I had was great, it's just the aftereffects that hit me. I'm extremly emotionally and mentally unstable at this time in my life, but it has gotten noticably better. Give it time, be healthy, try those supplements. You'll get better. I wouldn't recomend getting on an SSRI unless you don't mind being blank emotionally and being dependent on SSRIs, but that's for you to decide and a lot of people are genuinly helped by them.

It could be worse, I have two friends who overdosed (4 doses) in public on 5-MEO-AMT sold as liquid acid for their first trip.
 
DOB causes physical damage of the brain as far as I can tell(from using it).

Well DOB (and DOI as well, for that matter) is well studied. We know it doesn't cause organic damage to the brain.

Did you dose pure DOB from a trustworthy source?

If you're just talking about "acid tabs" from unscrupulous dealers, then there's no telling what was actually on them. Coulda been anything or a lot of things.
 
If the doctor said that your sertonin is drained maybe you could ask him to prescribe you some 5HTP?

It might help, but i'm not sure.
 
Well DOB (and DOI as well, for that matter) is well studied. We know it doesn't cause organic damage to the brain.

Did you dose pure DOB from a trustworthy source?

If you're just talking about "acid tabs" from unscrupulous dealers, then there's no telling what was actually on them. Coulda been anything or a lot of things.

it was on a tab, i took half of it. it was bitter. it took around 2 or 3 hours to hit. it lasted for 30 hours. i randomly went into a bad trip.
 
^Well like I say, it could be DOB or DOI-- or possibly a mix of the two-- or possibly other rarer compounds, or any possible combination thereof. We just can't possibly tell you what you took.

The important thing though, is that you're okay now. :) <3 Take life easy, take care of yourself. Next time only buy acid if you trust that its really LSD.

If the doctor said that your sertonin is drained maybe you could ask him to prescribe you some 5HTP?

Well the doctor was talking out of his ass. Dimethoxy amphetamines aren't monoamine releasers, nor is LSD or really any other psychedelic, so his serotonin can't be drained. His problem is psychological, not medical.
 
^spam.

Roger&Me said:
Well the doctor was talking out of his ass. Dimethoxy amphetamines aren't monoamine releasers, nor is LSD or really any other psychedelic, so his serotonin can't be drained. His problem is psychological, not medical.

Oh, I see. So 5HTP would be pretty much useless..
 
Over 2 months ago I took what I thought was LSD but it turned out to be DOB. I had a 30 hour bad trip even though it was just half a hit (probably because it was my first time). Despite the horrible experience, it was just the beginning. The first month I had intense anxiety and anxiety attacks, and when I wasn't having horrible anxiety, I would worrying all the time. Once that wasn't so prominent in my life, the bizarre feelings and paranoia came in. I constantly feel very weird and out of body, I see things that aren't there in my peripherals as well as random white dots occasionally, my head feels like there's a chemical war being waged in it, my vision is not as sharp as it was, I'll have sharp feelings of something that's going to happen (as if I going to seizure or something), I have a slight feeling of being sick sometimes, and I have many flashbacks. It's all very discomforting, I haven't had a normal day in over 2 months. I'm not abuser of drugs, I never used them to any extreme, I just wanted an experience. I'm just 20 years old, I've been clean since this happened. Of course with this going on I had to ask my doctor about it, his diagnosis was that I had drained my serotonin or serotonin receptors, and everything is reseting, and that it would take 4-6 months for me to be normal again. Along with some other things i can't recall. He said he could prescribe me with medication used in a similar situation with people with aspergers syndrome, to help me recover faster. I guess I'm posting here for a second opinion or some insight to this.

anybody wanna ask me again why i prefer plant drugs?

If you're just talking about "acid tabs" from unscrupulous dealers, then there's no telling what was actually on them. Coulda been anything or a lot of things.

O ya... that's right.

Hey you said it, not me.
 
^Yeah well the other side of the coin is that non-LSD "acid tabs" are rare as hell, I've never even seen anything like that. Ever.

LSD is a diamond, man. IMO its a finer psychedelic than any plant.
 
LSD is wonderful. I will never argue against that.

My argument is that it's easy to obtain things that aren't LSD when buying acid... and that is the danger, certainly not the LSD itself.

I myself don't hang out with the "Drug crowd" and would likely end up getting PCP or some crazy shit if I tried to buy "acid".

Better than any plant? you must have never done peyote! :)

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=465736

And that is just one example I could find 100s more not only on this site, but all over the internet.

RCs and "acid" are often, very often mislabeled and/or bullshit if you don't know the main supplier.
 
dougdoug, how are you feeling now? Gotten better?

my friend, weed is one of the safest substance on earth, if he has some experience with it, I'm sure that he would help his condition a lot... for coming back to "normal" he need a lot of rest, and weed can provide this to him in a natural way. In the same time, weed, can help him to become more relax, confident with him and person around him, good for socialize.

The risk for trying to smoke weed are very low, in the worst scenario he will became anxious and paranoid for few hours and after he will sleep like a baby, if he succeed he will be more confident, he will rest better and recover sooner…sometimes you may risk, and in this case the risk is minimal.

I don't mean any offense, but especially in the light of what happened a few days ago (-extreme- panic attack due to stress, lack of sleep, low tolerance etc) I really wouldn't suggest weed for healing psychological issues, albeit I wouldn't judge it either. The anxiety still continues from the panic attack.

Not saying that smoking weed is bad, I'm all up to it in few weeks again, but I don't think it's worth the risk. Even though it's not dangerous to your body, very extreme panic attacks can cause stress and anxiety that last weeks. That's not making the healing process any quicker..

RCs and "acid" are often, very often mislabeled and/or bullshit if you don't know the main supplier.

This isn't true. According to certain drug researchs (for which I can dig out a link if you wish) vast majority of what is sold as LSD is - in fact - LSD.

Also you probably wouldn't end up getting PCP labeled as acid, since the common dosage of oral PCP is dozens of times higher than LSD's. PCP would simply not fit in a tab that could hold a strong dose of LSD.

DOB sounds like the best call in this case tho. Bromo-dragonfly has generally faster onset and DOI has slightly higher dosage with less long-lasting negative effects reported.
 
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hey guys i thought i'd leave an update.

anxiety is hardly there but now i'm left with very weird head pressure issues. it feels as if i pulled a muscle in my head, the sensation is distracting and often leads to depersonalization sensations.
still have trouble sleeping.
month 3 is coming up soon.

i don't really have troubles with reality or anything and i don't really have flashbacks that intense anymore. it's just the physical stuff is what is ailing me now.
 
I myself don't hang out with the "Drug crowd" and would likely end up getting PCP or some crazy shit if I tried to buy "acid".

This isn't the reason you'll get bad acid, the reason you may get bunk acid is because the source got bought from had a vial of DOB instead of LSD.

End of story, you could be hanging around trusted people who THOUGHT they were getting LSD and sold it to you. But it turned out to be DOx.

This has happened MANY MANY MANY MANY times in Austin Texas. I know of AT LEAST 40 transactions that were bunk hits being sold as LSD.

It pisses me off, I even got my life threatened by a DOB dealer who thought he had LSD. Turned out he was taking it often and was turning manic. He threatened to kill me because I called his LSD out as bunk.

I fucking am so goddamn sick of the LSD scene, people don't know what they got half the fucking time and no one is beating this shit outta these stupid dealers when they don't listen to people who call their shit out as bunk. They just keep selling it as LSD and cause people to have a bad impression of acid or psychedelics altogether.
 
This isn't the reason you'll get bad acid, the reason you may get bunk acid is because the source got bought from had a vial of DOB instead of LSD.

End of story, you could be hanging around trusted people who THOUGHT they were getting LSD and sold it to you. But it turned out to be DOx.

This has happened MANY MANY MANY MANY times in Austin Texas. I know of AT LEAST 40 transactions that were bunk hits being sold as LSD.

It pisses me off, I even got my life threatened by a DOB dealer who thought he had LSD. Turned out he was taking it often and was turning manic. He threatened to kill me because I called his LSD out as bunk.

I fucking am so goddamn sick of the LSD scene, people don't know what they got half the fucking time and no one is beating this shit outta these stupid dealers when they don't listen to people who call their shit out as bunk. They just keep selling it as LSD and cause people to have a bad impression of acid or psychedelics altogether.

Holy crap dude, thats horrible.

Austin is a pretty shady town. There's a lot of real acid there, though. Unfortunately there are plenty of shadesters there too. UT bullshit and all that stupid crap, those are the people that deal with a bunch of teh bunk stuff.

A good rule of thumb is only buy deadhead-approved doses. :D
 
Austin is a pretty shady town.

Well, I wouldn't say that. Austin is actually one of the coolest places to live in the US, but the thing is like any place you gotta get the right connections for drugs. The people here are cool, but sometimes they don't know they got sold bunk.


Austin is known for its good LSD, peyote(believe it or not, it gets here at times. This was the first pschedelic that turned on Austin even before LSD turned on many other places in the 60'
s = ) and mushrooms....but there's a lot of drugs here since austin has lots of music, partying, dance parties, psytrance ect.


Nevertheless the best way to tell if you're getting good LSD is how it finds you. Everytime I've had good LSD I was approached warmly or with a smile and I got a excited feeling whenever the news was brought to me.


Whenever I bought bunk LSD(DOx of some kind). Guess what the dealer told me when I asked if it was "really LSD". he goes "no, it's crack!" in a half-jokingly almost half serious manner. The vibes were bad, and so the "LSD" was bad....it wasn't even LSD.

But there is definitely a TRUE hippie scene in Austin TX and they always get good acid and love to hook it up and it spreads. The propblem is people are so easily fooled by RC's even if they've taken good LSD.
 
how do you know its dob? every fucking time someone get blotter with something different than acid its like "it must be that bad dob,omg how unpleasent.... " there are thousands things that could be there but somehow everyone acts like walking laboratory and its "bad dob" aggain

To be fair, there aren't thousands of things that it could be. Active dose on a blotter? 30 hour trip?

It does narrow things down much more than you suggest.
 
Dougdoug, the sauna idea that someone mentioned a while back could be really, really helpful. If you look around a bit, you might even find someone in your area holding regular sweat lodges. A good sweat can be an extremely invigorating, centering, and fortifying experience, and you'll get a fair number of toxins out of your body while you're at it.

Your problem sounds psychological (in the sense that you didn't "fry your brain" ... any kind of measurable brain damage is extremely unlikely if all you ate was a tiny square of bitter paper) and the best way to approach it is almost certainly by living as healthily as you can, to reaffirm the experiences you have that make you feel like a healthy and whole human being. It sounds like your diet's pretty good, so as long as you're getting enough sleep and a fair amount of exercise you'll be making progress back to full capacity, and the only question is how fast.

As for specific measures that you can take to speed up the recovery process ... sweating (at a lodge or sauna) can be really helpful, as can yoga. Both are practices that force you to really directly engage with your body, and in that sense, you can directly combat depersonalization by affirming "This really is ME, I am HERE, right NOW, and THIS is what I am doing." Also, you tend to feel really great after a yoga class or a sweat. You could even combine them by doing bikram yoga, which is a form of yoga that's practiced in 100 degree heat ... I hear it's intense as shit, though, so get some basic yoga experience before you try something like that.

Also, this might sound kinda corny, but it'll almost certainly help to find some people to talk to about this in person, especially if you also hang out with them while you're doing the things you do to make yourself better (exercise, yoga, whatever). If you put the progress that you're making into words and actively talk about it as things start healing more and more, the process accelerates.
 
A good sweat [...] and you'll get a fair number of toxins out of your body while you're at it.

If you look at the composition of perspiration, its about 1% solute. Most of that solute is sodium, trace minerals, and lactate. Only a very small amount of urea is excreted through sweat. The body detoxifies itself through the liver and kidneys, not through perspiration.
 
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