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If you were to open a smartshop

Ximot

Ximot

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or a headshop that sells legal "herbal highs". . . what plants / botanicals would you be selling, and why?

The obvious ones that come to mind are salvia and kratom...

What else have you tried that you liked, and why did you like it?

Interested in anything pychoactive, whether it's psychedelic / upper / downer... interested in singular herbs as well as combinations.

@Mods - please forgive if this is the wrong forum, am not too sure where to place this otherwise, and this is the forum I know best.

Greetings to all. Thank you
 
Mulungu, P. racemosa and honokiol (Isolated from magnolia bark) would be good aquizitions. They are all nice for sleep or anti-anxiety effects and are not facing any legislation to outlaw any of them. Sida Cordifolia would be another good choice, though it's more of a stimulant...

If you really want to make a name for yourself, find a supplier for Radula Marginata. It contains perrettenonine and a bunch of other dibenzyl cannabinoids. (all of which are based on the structure of our well loved THC, not some random indole type shit. I (and a great many others have been looking for a source for this for years to no avail). It's native to New Zealand, and even people I know there cant find it... Umbrella pine (contains 2-sciadonicglycerol (sp?) which also works @ cb1/cb2 as an agonist.

More to come Ximot;)
 
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I am already doing this on a small scale but would like to expand.

I would sell ONLY live plants and viable seeds and nothing else! In order to stay clean and legal.

Also... don't sell any of the illegal plants like Cannabis.

I would NOT sell any smoking blends or prepared bullshit, only plants and seeds.
 
I'd have Peruvian Torch cacti all over the place (at as cheap a price as possible, even if it meant I wasn't making any profit off that specific product). They contain mescaline, they don't taste nearly as god awful as San Pedros and I find them to not cause vomiting as much as San Pedros. You'd need to put up "not for consumption" signs of course, but that's easy. Mescaline can teach people the correct way to live I feel. Also it's the shit. I'd also sell a lot of books about psychedelics and other drugs and neurochemistry books so that drug users could perhaps start becoming slightly intellegent and knowledgable about their use (I think every drug user should understand at least basic neurochemistry).

It kinda depends on where you want to open the shop. In America you have to be way more careful then in Mexico for instance, in Mexico you can sell whatever you want as long as you have enough paper to bribe the cops and you keep the less legal shit (like analogues perhaps) on the DL. If I could I would sell 4-HO-MIPT, which you couldn't do in the US due to the analogues act but you could sell it in many places. It's like shrooms except it feels cleaner, it's not super spacy like shrooms, very little body load, etc. An excellent beginner's psychedelic. Also all the basics- pipes, vapes, bongs, salvia, etc.

There's lots of plants that are legal even though they contain illegal drugs that you could sell under the guise of simply selling plants, perhaps you could even say that you're selling traditional ethnobotanicals for decoration and scientific research but not for consumption (depending on the country). Peruvian Torch, Chacruna, poppy seeds of high quality opium poppies etc.

Also nitrous, because it's cool. Nitrous + Mescaline (or any psychedelic)= amazing.
 
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@psychomimetic: thanks for the cactus thought. It's all hypothetical anyway, just something that crossed my mind, but I think I wouldn't want to be selling designer tryptamines. I would definitely keep it strictly herbal for a variety of reasons.

@egor: you just mentioned plants I have never evven heard of. Thanks for making me curious ... :)
 
spice platinum
salvia
HWBR
impomea seeds
mephedrone
shrooms
various piperazines
nn DMT
5 meo DMT
mescaline
jenkem
popers
piracetam
nitrous
2c-b
2c-e
2c-b fly
dob
doc
bromo-dob
5-meo AMT
hot-7
JHW-73
amanita muscaria
 
DOB said:
spice platinum
salvia
HWBR
impomea seeds
mephedrone
shrooms
various piperazines
nn DMT
5 meo DMT
mescaline
jenkem
popers
piracetam
nitrous
2c-b
2c-e
2c-b fly
dob
doc
bromo-dob
5-meo AMT
hot-7
JHW-73
amanita muscaria
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So only 5 plants/botanicals? ;) One of which is illegal
 
Why would you recomend DOB and DOC but not DOM? Just curious. Shrooms aren't illegal everywhere. Also CP 55940 > any JWH compound. Hooray for not being carcinogenic!
 
I had no idea chemicals were plants.


I'd sell cannabis, cubensis mushrooms, coca (with extract), poppies (with extracts), and mimosa (with extract).


But i wouldn't use a store =D.
 
see my list of ethnobotanicals for ideas on what types of plants to sell

keep in mind there are 7 illegal plants in the USA
 
Id say fuck plants and sell:
1. LSD
2. MDMA/MDE/MDA
3. D-Amphetamine
4. Good Cigs and Cigars (so chemically they dont count as natural, for cigs)
5. 2c's look decent.
6. DOx
7. Other synthetic psychs. I didnt like shrooms, but loved LSD, hence my siding with synthetics.
 
Things you had not heard of

Ximot said:
@psychomimetic: thanks for the cactus thought. It's all hypothetical anyway, just something that crossed my mind, but I think I wouldn't want to be selling designer tryptamines. I would definitely keep it strictly herbal for a variety of reasons.

@egor: you just mentioned plants I have never even heard of. Thanks for making me curious ... :)
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I have some info on them if you are interested, plus a plethora of others. Let me know if you need additional info

Egor
 
egor said:
Mulungu, P. racemosa and honokiol (Isolated from magnolia bark) would be good aquizitions. They are all nice for sleep or anti-anxiety effects and are not facing any legislation to outlaw any of them. Sida Cordifolia would be another good choice, though it's more of a stimulant...

If you really want to make a name for yourself, find a supplier for Radula Marginata. It contains perrettenonine and a bunch of other dibenzyl cannabinoids. (all of which are based on the structure of our well loved THC, not some random indole type shit. I (and a great many others have been looking for a source for this for years to no avail). It's native to New Zealand, and even people I know there cant find it... Umbrella pine (contains 2-sciadonicglycerol (sp?) which also works @ cb1/cb2 as an agonist.

More to come Ximot;)
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whoa, Radula Marginata is new to me. can anyone point me to a trip report on this?
 
After the Bouncing Bear fiasco, I wouldn't sell anything of the sort in the US, at least - even technically perfectly legal businesses can apparently be harassed quite easily for being associated with 'drugs'. I don't know if the owner of BB was really selling drugs to minors as has been rumored - the point is, it's far too easy for such rumors to take hold and be taken seriously, down to severe legal consequences.

If I did run a store in the US, my stocking decisions would be made mostly at a lawyer's recommendation. There are a few things I would absolutely refuse to carry, such as any product that I had strong reason to believe contained psychoactives not indicated anywhere on the packaging like the various 'legal pot' mixes with their stealth doses of JWH and CP compounds. I have no problem with compounds I personally choose not to consume, but I have a very big problem with selling deceptively labeled drugs. The guys behind Spice and K2 are just as bad as street dealers selling meth and piperazines as MDMA, IMHO - people like those are one of the big reasons otherwise rational and caring people can support 'hardline' stances against 'drug dealers' and their customers.
 
onmyway said:
whoa, Radula Marginata is new to me. can anyone point me to a trip report on this?
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I have no trip report as of yet, but there is a small group of us trying to procure enough for at least a few trials. It's not going well so, but we wont just give up. Sounds too promising to ignore;)
 
You definitely need Picralima nitida at your smart shop.

Some Vinca minor for those looking for nootropics.

Mitragyna speciosa for the junkies.
 
Calea Zacatechichi is something I'm surprised nobody has mentioned. It's also called dream herb. It makes you lucid dream like crazy if you smoke it or drink it as tea right before bed.
 
- Silene Capensis, my buddy finds it to be better than Calea - I have only tried it once when I slept over recently but apparently you need to do it a couple in a row...

He says its a pretty colorful oneirogen - also its a bonus that it doesnt taste like total cow pie like Calea...

- Damiana is pretty warm when combined with Cannabis, I like that.
 
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