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What has happened to PD?

I'm not sure why Andy is....

But if it's really a big deal...

Y'all can just ban me.

You'll miss some good info tho.
 
I'm not sure why Andy is....

To use the words of Jack Kerouac, he's "one of the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes 'Awww!'"

Roger, do what feels right. Academics are important, but what's much more important is your well being. Be careful with the adderall...I've found that it's easy to lose sight of what's really important in life with that stuff.

Love you all too. <3
 
A wise man once said...

You are right, the vibe has gone awry, but- it takes two to tango- so we all need to learn to get along.

I agree.

I'd like to formally apologize for sending out any bad vibes.

I'm still going to believe what I believe... but I'll try to be more positive about it.
 
I'm kinda trying to lay off BL for a bit for now actually; I realized my behavior has been really weird lately,

I love you all, seriously. :) <3 Feels like home here. PD is really one of the coolest places on the internet, and I hope that never changes.


Your behaviour seems pretty unweird to me Roger - unweird in a good way. :) You're never anything less than friendly, thoughtful & helpful and have even been known to stray into most amusing territory on occassion.
However spending too much time on the net isn't the greatest lifestyle option so I'm sure where ever you go whatever you do you'll be positive force/spirit/assett to those around you. Yup hurray for PD & everyone who sails with her, including those who were forced to walk the plank by pirates from another realm :D

Regarding what has happened to PD well nothing much that seems too outrageous - however it offers an opportunity to appreciate the great vibe of the forum sometimes a small storm can make one more aware & appreciative of the general good weather :) Blah de blah - how about a virtual censer that vapes DMT over the congregation in PD that ought to straighten things out little ;)
 
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^^^ Only if your weed comes from an outdoor grow.... OR from a climate with real winters, for that matter. Thanks to all my Californian horticulturist brothers and sisters making such things possible ;)

No complains about you here either, Roger. Hope you get your personal life under control and get back to us soon! +1 on adderall being nasty stuff if you let it be, but I'm sure you'll come out the other side of all of it good as new.

I feel like a bad member of the 'old guard' for also not knowing who Andy is - I was AWOL for a couple years after all :\ Was that his account name? Anyway, no sense digging up old shitstorms too much I suppose.

I'm gonna pretend Teo still hasn't found this thread and leave his posts unexpanded to avoid being counter-productive re: good vibes. Let me guess - another pledge for personal change? ;)
 
Yes, ignoring him is the best option. I feel bad about letting him get to me and how I went out of the way to tell him things sometimes. From now on if Teo posts anything ignorant or dumb we should all just ignore it unless its unsafe information about drugs or goes against harm reduction. Lets get back on the great vibes this forum is known for.
 
Yes, ignoring him is the best option. I feel bad about letting him get to me and how I went out of the way to tell him things sometimes. From now on if Teo posts anything ignorant or dumb we should all just ignore it unless its unsafe information about drugs or goes against harm reduction. Lets get back on the great vibes this forum is known for.

or is not relevant to the topic at hand, such as preaching to the recovering addict about not taking lsd and instead taking "natural hallucinogens"...

he is hard to ignore, though im trying to be a civil as possible with him
 
I have been dope sick and stoned for the past few days, so I have not been very talkative.... but I was still lurking...

You all are funny fuckers.

....

Teotzlcoatl, You have to start thinking more before you post. BL is not a garden variety drug forum, so that means playtime is over. Okay?
 
Ohhh... Now having actually read the whole thread, I feel dumb for asking what was already explained. Didn't know samhadi_smiles as Andy, but I remember him and he was definitely a great part of PD when I was last active here... In a way, I'm glad I was on somewhat of a BL hiatus when all that went down.
 
i encourage y'all to use the ignore button if you don't enjoy my posts

Thats an option, but could you, yourself, compromise a bit and keep your posts to a more minimal and less opinionated slant?

You obviously know stuff, and its good stuff :) But the messenger is killing the message.

I have already apologised to you, but I'll do it again: my telling you to fuck off was childish and realy egoic of me. Its not something I would normally say....It came out of frustration and basic childishness really.

You, Teotz, are getting that reaction, not simply because of what you say, but how you say it. In fact, I'd say the latter portion of that sentence is probably the ultimate reason for the recent angst and dark-vibe in PD.

If you look at PD from say 4-5 years ago (and a bit longer) there was a lot of rudeness and arrogance floating around. We all worked really hard to get it to this nice place, which can be a haven for people who don't have many comrades to discuss psychedelics with. The main way the vibe got changed back then was with kindness, love and DMT. :D I love PD because it feels like home; I check it everyday, and love the social aspect, as well as being able to contribute to topics that I generally cant in real life. We ALL need to get it back on the rails, and I think the way to do it is with a sense of humour, love, empathy and the knowledge that we are all humans in this odd maze of life together; let's help each other, not hinder.

<3
 
Man I'm not gunna lie, I think Andy getting banned was a catastrophic loss to the PD vibe. That was a really shitty and unnecessary event for all parties involved, it would have been really nice if both sides could have come to a compromise and stuck with it-- it's really a shame that couldn't have happened for whatever reason.

Also, just in general a lot of once-prolific posters have moved on-- which is not a bad thing, its just different. But we need to work hard to continue cultivating the underlying spirit of the community.

I'm kinda trying to lay off BL for a bit for now actually; I realized my behavior has been really weird lately, and I don't feel like myself-- and I think my BL posts have kinda reflected that. Too much adderall, academic stress, relationship issues, anxiety, excessive pot use, and not having any time to reflect and use healing psychedelics-- it all adds up to me kind of becoming an opinionated, reductionist asshole. When all the shit with Teo started, it really made me look at myself-- and maybe I've been toxic to the environment here too. Feels colder here recently, but maybe that's just because I feel colder and my interpretation of the forum is affected by that. So I'm gunna try to limit my time here for a bit, and clean my life up and shit-- I'll get back to you guys when I feel healthy again.

I love you all, seriously. :) <3 Feels like home here. PD is really one of the coolest places on the internet, and I hope that never changes.

I love PD as well, massive amounts of love being sent your way, friend :)<3

Do what feels right
 
Thats an option, but could you, yourself, compromise a bit and keep your posts to a more minimal and less opinionated slant?

You obviously know stuff, and its good stuff :) But the messenger is killing the message.

I have already apologised to you, but I'll do it again: my telling you to fuck off was childish and realy egoic of me. Its not something I would normally say....It came out of frustration and basic childishness really.

You, Teotz, are getting that reaction, not simply because of what you say, but how you say it. In fact, I'd say the latter portion of that sentence is probably the ultimate reason for the recent angst and dark-vibe in PD.

If you look at PD from say 4-5 years ago (and a bit longer) there was a lot of rudeness and arrogance floating around. We all worked really hard to get it to this nice place, which can be a haven for people who don't have many comrades to discuss psychedelics with. The main way the vibe got changed back then was with kindness, love and DMT. :D I love PD because it feels like home; I check it everyday, and love the social aspect, as well as being able to contribute to topics that I generally cant in real life. We ALL need to get it back on the rails, and I think the way to do it is with a sense of humour, love, empathy and the knowledge that we are all humans in this odd maze of life together; let's help each other, not hinder.

<3

Sorry to double post but im far to stoned/lazy right now to try that multi quote thingy.

Swilow, awesome post man, honestly you're posts are one of the main reasons I started lurking BL, you just seem so interesting and like some one I wish I knew in real life.

<3 to you all
 
We can't always expect that PD will be a bastion of love and harmony; conflict and argument sometimes bring new insights--I think what needs to be avoided are senseless ad homs..

BTW, great to see Dondante, haven't seen you in a while, bubba... :)
 
Man I'm not gunna lie, I think Andy getting banned was a catastrophic loss to the PD vibe. That was a really shitty and unnecessary event for all parties involved, it would have been really nice if both sides could have come to a compromise and stuck with it-- it's really a shame that couldn't have happened for whatever reason.

I love you all, seriously. :) <3 Feels like home here. PD is really one of the coolest places on the internet, and I hope that never changes.

wpuld totally have to agree with this shit - in psychedelic discussion I've learnt ALOT, and had some very interesting discourses about the chemicals I'm gaining more and more experiencial knowledge of.

I had only just started talking to Gaian Planes, about psyches and yoga then he got banned...feel the loss was actually thinking about it the other day when I saw someone called Samadhi and then found it was a woman LOL. :\

Everyone else here though seems pretty cool, switched on with the good vibes.
 
I certainly regret the change in atmosphere lately but I think we're all mature enough here not to get hung up on it and move past it. Like tobala says: we can't always have positivity and harmony here, if we would approach everything with an open embrace then scepsis would be out the window and it would allow unbalancing things to run us over.
When patience runs out things must be said and done, although strikes below the belt are hardly warranted. There is no need to insult anyone and if I may have stepped on toes or been harsh I'm sorry, on the other hand sometimes you have to make a direct argument to establish an important point. Its part of regulating this place and making sure it doesn't run out of control which would be the actual end of harmony.

Hopefully things will settle down a bit and it already seems to be happening. Annoyance can spread like fire and thats a pity, now lets turn that effect around.

Agreed on the Andy thing, I wasn't aware of the whole ordeal or the actual slurs uttered but there would have to be a ridiculous load of it to justify the loss of such a glowing presence. Maybe I'm missing something but all I can say is I totally love the guy, hope he is happy and well.
 
i encourage y'all to use the ignore button if you don't enjoy my posts

He has got a point there.

He is clearly a troll and you probably all know he's a troll so stop giving him the oxygen he needs to carry this shit on.

Simples.
 
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