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Am I just strange?? JWH-073 > Cannabis

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I've been a pretty long term cannabis user, been smoking for about 4 years off and on. Cannabis was magical when I first started smoking it - simply magical. Of course, over time the "magic" had faded until recently the high doesn't really resemble the way that it once was. I can only take a hit or two and unless I'm on opiates or drunk, anything more than that has a tendency to induce anxiety :p I know that this isn't uncommon but this is just a bit of background info.

So a couple of months ago I tried one of the "spice alike" smoking blends and was pretty shocked by the effects. It got me stoned, but with less anxiety. There was a certain visual effect that I hadn't gotten from cannabis in years, and when I closed my eyes I experienced a flow of random pictures and ideas... it was very much similar to my first reefer smoke.

I went back to smoking weed for months and finally had a chance to sample some pure JHW's last week, so I got the JWH-073. I dare say that I enjoy the effects MUCH more than cannabis.

JWH-073 seems to remind me of what it once was like to smoke a strong Sativa strain back before I had experimented with weed. There is no anxiety (at least nothing as overt or forward as weed produces in me) and a very real sense of euphoria. There are also definite psychedelic effects, slight patterns with eyes open and definite activity behind my closed eyelids. I also note an increase in imagination. There is a definite shift in the way that I think, i feel that my thoughts flow with more meaning and clarity...

In other words, IMHO JWH-073 > Most strains of Marijuana. I burned out on weed a long time ago but this stuff has really been a refresher on what weed used to be like. I'm not saying that it's safer than weed or even a viable alternative, I'm just saying that I like it. I think I'll be sampling some more JWH's in the future.

So what do you guys think? Does anyone else out there actually think that the JWH's are more fun than reefer?
 
I just made a post in the jwh-018 MEGA thread I just got a new sample of the 18 its fluffy like cotton candy. I love the stuff since I get tested at work. Its very close to MJ even makes me get the munchies. I love takin a little puff before pwning noobs!
 
I'm starting to feel the same way except, all the "Synthetic" Cannabinoids > Cannabis

Unless I'm eating baked Cannabis goods or vaping, or it's a concentrate/hash/keif... I'll take Cannabinoids like JWH, WIN, CP over some "dank" any day.

I feel the Cannabinoids are almost novelty, and much more desirable.
 
BiG StroOnZ said:
I'm starting to feel the same way except, all the "Synthetic" Cannabinoids > Cannabis

Unless I'm eating baked Cannabis goods or vaping, or it's a concentrate/hash/keif... I'll take Cannabinoids like JWH, WIN, CP over some "dank" any day.

I feel the Cannabinoids are almost novelty, and much more desirable.
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This is interesting. I hope someone is conducting a long term effect study on this stuff.
 
I suppose I'm kinda in the same boat- they are basically equal to me but I take the synthetics over the real stuff because its 1/3 the price, legal, and no DT worries. I just don't feel 100 percent safe with it obviously and I cant shake the nagging feeling that I'm smoking something un-researched that no one really knows about.
 
Bought some yesterday from a local headshop. Pretty good I must say but I'm not sure I prefer it over regular bud. I will experiment further.
 
treezy z said:
i like the synthetic cannabinoids a hell of a lot better. don't have to choke on tons of smoke, cheaper, cleaner high, less anxiety.
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Really? My friend told me with JWH-018 he could only take one hit, and he happened to enjoy the taste of some good kind buds. Beyond that, after using a bit too much one evening, (and by a bit too much, he meant a bit too many GRAINS-as in 8mg), he was thrown into the worst anxiety he had ever experienced from any chemical he had ever used. He later tried dosing a small amount (10mg) orally, and although a bit more controllable, there was still a looming sense of anxiety or fear that was eminating from seemingly nowhere. My friend has been a VERY regular cannabis smoker for over ten years, and not experienced one ounce of anxiety, so this is definitely from the JWH. Not worth it, he said. He was either not doing enough to feel any effects, or having anxiety issues from just a mg or two more.

Me and my friend will stick with the natural stuff.;)
 
That was his fault theres warnings everywhere telling you not to push your luck with the jwhs especially 018. It doesn't matter whether you've smoked for one week or 65 years if you push your luck its going to push back. When smoked correctly the jwhs are pretty similar to good old marijuana.
 
If people start smoking synth then we lose the ability to say "dopes not a drug its a plant it grows in the ground man" *tokes* but if that happen i guess i can just say " its a lifestyle, live with it!" lol
 
As a long-time daily (or near-daily) smoker who has tried JHW-073 and JHW-018, I agree with the OP that it the synthetic options are both more euphoric and is less likely to provoke any anxiety in the user than with cannabis. This is analogous to comparing 4-aco-dmt and mushrooms. For whatever reason, the isolated chemical is easier to handle (and I would argue more enjoyable) than the natural version.

Hypothesis: The combination of alkaloids found in the natural sources of these drugs are more difficult to handle psychologically than the pure compound on its own.

I would bet that if one were to try THC in its pure chemical form, they would find it more pleasurable than smoking weed. On another note, dose anyone know why it is fairly common for some long-term users of cannabis to experience anxiety when consuming?
 
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I've been smoking daily for a few years now.
I'm not impressed with the JWH's. 18 tends to cause anxiety for me, and 250 doesn't feel like weed, and 73 requires me to inhale several hits of vile tasting smoke to get high, and lasts like half as long as weed. 200 i havn't tried yet. Plus, there are concerns over carcinogenicity of the JWH's

I am VERY impressed with CP-55,940. It feels like a good sativa that lasts twice as long as weed without any hint of anxiety.
 
Saucy said:
I would bet that if one were to try THC in its pure chemical form, they would find it more pleasurable than smoking weed. On another note, dose anyone know why it is fairly common for some long-term users of cannabis to experience anxiety when consuming?
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You'd lose this bet ;)

There were testes where people were given pure THC/THC + cannabinol and with pure THC they were anxious and it was not pleasant experience.
 
mindtools said:
You'd lose this bet ;)

There were testes where people were given pure THC/THC + cannabinol and with pure THC they were anxious and it was not pleasant experience.
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Interesting; I wouldn't have guessed that. Do have a link to the source?
 
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