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So I'm getting some Absinthe...

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So I'm getting some Absinthe... two bottles... one from Spain called "Obsella" and one from the States called "Pacificque"!

I can't wait to try it!

Here is some info on Absinthe!





~~~Absinthe Accessories~~~

Absinthe Fountain
Absinthe Glass
Absinthe Spoon
Bistro Tray with Saucers, Sugar Dish, etc.
Carafe or Decanter
Cold Bottled Water
Crushed Ice
Dripper (Brouilleur)
Sugar Cubes




1)Pour a shot (1oz) of Absinthe into the glass.
2)Place a sugar cube on the Dripper or Spoon.
3)Slowly drip cold water over the sugar cube into the glass.
4)Watch as the Absinthe in the glass mixes with the water and turns to opalescent milky white with traces of iridescent green (Louche).
5)Stir with the spoon and enjoy!


Notes- Never use fire during the Absinthe ritual, it is NOT traditional, it ruins the flavor of the Absinthe and is dangerous!





~~~Suggested Absinthes~~~

Belle Amie
Doubs Mystique
Obsello
Pacifique Verte Superieur
Roquette 1797







~~~Absinthe Ingredients~~~



***Traditional Ingredients ***

Acorus calamus ~ "Sweet Flag"
Angelica species ~ "Angelica"
Anthemis nobilis ~ "Roman Chamomile"
Artemisia absinthium ~ "Wormwood"
Artemisia pontica ~ "Roman Wormwood" or "Petite Wormwood"
Foeniculum vulgare ~ "Fennel"
Hyssopus officinalis ~ "Hyssop"
Illicium verum ~ "Star Anise"
Matricaria recutita ~ "German Chamomile” or “Blue Chamomile”
Melissa officinalis ~ "Lemon Balm"
Pimpinella anisum ~ "Green Anise"



***Other Ingredients***


Artemisia glacialis ~ “?" or "Genepi"
Artemisia mutellina ~ “?" or "Genepi"
Artemisia spicata ~ “?" or "Genepi"
Artemisia umbelliformis ~ “?" or "Genepi"
Artemisia vulgaris ~ "Mugwort"
Citrus species ~ "Citrus"
Coriandrum sativum ~ "Coriander"
Cymbopogon citrates ~ "Lemon Grass"
Dictamnus albus ~ "White Dittany"
Filipendula ulmaria ~ "Meadowsweet"
Glycyrrhiza glabra ~ "Liquorice"
Inula helenium ~ "Elecampane" or "Horse-heal"
Juniperus species ~ "Juniper"
Mentha species ~ "Mint"
Myristica fragrans ~ "Nutmeg" or “Mace”
Origanum dictamnus ~ "Dittany of Crete” or “Cretan Dittany”
Salvia officinalis & Salvia species ~ "Sage"
Syzygium aromaticum ~ "Cloves"
Tanacetum vulgare ~ "Tansy"
Veronica officinalis ~ "Gypsyweed", "Bird's Eye" or "Speedwell"
Picea species ~ "Spruce"
Pimenta dioica ~ "Allspice"
Vanilla planifolia ~ "Vanilla"
Abies balsamea ~ "Balsam Fir"
Cinnamomum zeylanicum ~ "Cinnamon"
Syzygium aromaticum ~ "Clove"
Mentha ? ~ "Apple Mint"
Black Alder Root
Caraway
Cardamom
Galangal
Marjoram
Orris Root
Thyme
Sassafras
Violet Root
Stinging Nettles
Tarragon
Meadow Sweet
Basil
 
I hope you like getting drunk

Absinthe: The Myth and the Reality
By Heather Stimmler-Hall
Absinthe
After almost a century of being banned, absinthe is again legal in France.

If you've heard of absinthe at all, you've probably heard that it is a strong, hallucinogenic liqueur banned for causing insanity in those who drink it. The reputation of this green-tinted aniseed drink has long-suffered from misunderstandings and misconceptions about both its defaults as well as its qualities.

Originally used in the mid-1800s by the French army in North Africa as a health tonic to prevent disease and purify water, soldiers brought the taste back to the cafés of Belle Epoque Paris. It soon became the most popular aperitif in France, particularly among the bourgeoisie, who referred to their pre-dinner glass of absinthe as L'Heure Verte (the Green Hour).

Absinthe became a mythical part of bohemian Paris in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, hyped by such writers as Verlaine and immortalized in the paintings of artists like Manet and Toulouse-Lautrec who referred to their liquid inspiration as the Fée Verte (Green Fairy) because they believed it gave them hallucinogenic visions.

Absinthe gets its name from the bitter herb Artemisia absinthium, known commonly as wormwood and a substance that supposedly drives people mad with delirium. According to legend Van Gogh was suffering under the effects of wormwood when he cut off his ear. But as the temperance movement gained momentum in the early 1900s, absinthe became an easy target, and was soon banned in Switzerland, the United States, and finally in France.

Modern historians seem to agree that the effects of absinthe were greatly overrated and that any toxic effects produced by the wormwood would have been overshadowed by the elevated alcohol content of the drink (72%). The drink's popularity at the time also resulted in a lot of cheaply made, poisonous imitations that no doubt caused serious medical problems. It didn't help, either, that the powerful wine industry was whole-heartedly behind the ban, since it obviously felt its own market threatened.

After nearly a century of illegality, France quietly lifted the ban on absinthe production in 1988, and it has returned to the market with much fanfare. Despite the fanciful descriptions of visions and enhanced mental clarity, absinthe is nothing more than a strong alcoholic aperitif with a sweet aniseed flavor that can be enjoyed for its taste alone – in moderation, of course!

As for drinking absinthe in Paris today, there aren't actually many places that serve it, partly because preparation requires some elaborate equipment and many French people still assume that it is illegal. You can easily find it for purchase in liquor stores and Duty Free shops. For sitting down and imbibing, try the following:

The Hôtel Royal Fromentin (11 rue Fromentin, 75009 Paris, tel. 01 42 81 02 33) serves absinthe at their historic bar, a former cabaret at the foot of Montmartre. Visit in the evening for a presentation by the staff of the history of Absinthe.

The Musée de l'Absinthe (44 rue Alphonse Callé, 95430 Auvers-sur-Oise, tel. 01 30 36 83 26, about fifteen minutes outside Paris) is open on the weekends and holidays and sports all sorts of memorabilia and paraphernalia from absinthe's heyday. The train from Gare du Nord goes directly to the town.
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There was a barr in Melbourne that had quite a few types of absinthe....strong stuff- just alcohol though. Good fun setting it on fire though :D
 
To be fair, some absinthe recipes may in fact contain an active dose of thujone (the apparently active compound in wormwood). Reports on thujone doing much of anything recreational or entheogenic are mixed, but some people report good results with thujone extracted from wormwood - there are some TRs on Erowid. I'm skeptical it does much, if anything, and I highly doubt any commercially available Absinthe is much more than alcohol and maybe a light dose of some mild herbs. Let us know how it goes, I'd love to be proven wrong.
 
They actually think that there may be other actives besides the thujone.

I'm looking forward to the flavor!
 
Even if it's got enough thujone to be active, all it would do is arrhythmia/spasm and stuff like that. Nothing psychedelic.

Why do people assume that anything that's "weird" or uncommon is psychedelic? OD...

rant over, :(
 
I've always wondered how much truth to there was to strange effects from absinthe. So to find out in 1995 I brewed up a few cups of strong wormwood tea. It was the most bitter tea I've ever had. It had a familiar taste that seemed strange. I did get an effect from a few cups. A short lasting slightly different feeling that was just above placebo. Light was a tad brighter in the room I was in. Recongnizable the few times I tried it. Not strong though. However, I always got the incredible urge to listen to old time swing. Benny Goodman was about right. %)

But as I suspected I believe Delsyd is correct. It's another alcohol buzz with maybe a little added thujone "waxy" feeling. Not much more than that. But what a folklore surrounding absinthe.
 
Any substantial claim of effect is pretty controversial, but going on anecdotal evidence absinthe produces are typical sort of inebriation, subtly different from only alcohol.

Not that I don't appreciate the occasional herb, some are great although almost all are so very mild. Still, calling absinthe a real psychotropic or even psychedelic seems like a stretch to me. And some absinthe is even stripped of thujone and filtered of a few things!

I had absinthe a while back and enjoyed it immensely. But it had more to do with the flavor and smooth though very alcoholic effect plus the fact that 70% alcohol was actually drinkable, even though many 40% liquors make me almost nauseous even smelling them.
 
I purchased a bottle of St. George Absinthe. It is nice, for alcohol, and I like the procedure for it's preparation, however it is certainly not a hallucinogen.
 
I purchased a bottle of St. George Absinthe. It is nice, for alcohol, and I like the procedure for it's preparation, however it is certainly not a hallucinogen.
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Right... just slightly alter drunkenness.

It's kinda like a cannabis-drunk.
 
i tasted the liquor part straight once (just one swig from the bottle) and it was like a strong licorice taste combined with the usual taste of hard liquor. i actually liked the taste better than normal hard liquor straight. i was rolling at the time though so idk if that had any effect on my perceptions. my friend who had it described the feeling as drunk but your still there. i took this to mean a drunk feeling without much effect on mental thought processes at least after only one serving.
 
Ive had a big bottle of "UN EMILE - PONTARLIER"(french absinthe) for a while now. It's a clear absinthe because it has been purified of the colorings from the plants, still clouds up nicely when water is added. However it is still very much active, and packs a wallop at 139 proof and has a delightful anise flavor(licorice). To me Absinthe is a lot like drinking vodka and high quantities of caffeine only not as harsh as caffeine. I like it because i can drink a lot of it and not get sloppy like i would from equal amounts of pure alcohol.
 
let me get technical: absinthe sucks balls.

friend of mine paid $60 for a bottle. drank a few shots (on him, of course) and left nothing.
 
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let me get technical: absinthe sucks balls.

friend of mine paid $60 for a bottle. drank a few shots (on him, of course) and left nothing.
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First off; it is liquor, If you did not at least get drunk then it's not genuine absinthe.

Second; taking shots of it will just get you drunk. You will not notice the subtle differences that absinthe has over other spirits. It is a subtle difference that is easily overpowered by drunkenness if one consumes too much.

The effects are most noticeably felt after a glass or two of it mixed one ounce absinthe with eight ounces water and consumed at a fair pace but not chugged or slammed. Compare a glass or two of absinthe to a separate occasion of a glass or two of spirits mixed with cola or juice.

Absinthe is not going to get you stoned, give you hallucinations or make you horny as a goat. Those are all myths and ill-conceived notions that are perpetuated by hype. It is a subtle feeling that is easy to dismiss if one is trying to achieve altered states like what is achieved with cannabis or mushrooms or cocaine.

solistus said:
To be fair, some absinthe recipes may in fact contain an active dose of thujone (the apparently active compound in wormwood). Reports on thujone doing much of anything recreational or entheogenic are mixed, but some people report good results with thujone extracted from wormwood - there are some TRs on Erowid. I'm skeptical it does much, if anything, and I highly doubt any commercially available Absinthe is much more than alcohol and maybe a light dose of some mild herbs. Let us know how it goes, I'd love to be proven wrong.
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To get genuine absinthe one needs to be ordering it from Spain or France. Somewhere absinthe has been made for centuries and as such has a refined old-world recipe that has not changed since the days of old. Absinthe produced in the USA is not going to give the same effect and is most likely a simple solution of spirits, green coloring and anise flavoring. Absinthe has only recently passed as legal in the USA and as an effect it is not been refined in the states yet.

I know of several good sites to order absinthe online however, sourcing being illegal here i will not share them.
 
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Okay, absinthe might do something to somebody, somewhere. We've established that is almost impossible to discern the effects, and you must spend a fortune to import any absinthe that is legitimate...

Sounds like a great time!
 
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Okay, absinthe might do something to somebody, somewhere. We've established that is almost impossible to discern the effects, and you must spend a fortune to import any absinthe that is legitimate...

Sounds like a great time!
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It's a matter of preference. No different than a decision to drink rum over vodka or whiskey. It's a matter of taste and preference. It is not all that expensive to import. Compare it to a person who likes a specific whiskey made in a particular state and only available locally to that state. When you liek a particular brand or flavor of spirit you are willing to pay a slightly higher price to be able to drink that spirit when the mood strikes you.
 
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