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the official 2010 NBA thread vers. LeBron James

Cleveland all day end day!

there's nothing more entertaining this year than watching LBJ and Shaq on the same team. Shaq is really doing a swell job in there. the Cavs are becoming a strong paint-scoring team, which if you told me this was going to happen last year - I woulda laughed in your face.

the Cavs just look like they are having so much fun out there, punking teams left and right. LBJ and Shaq, for years, have been the two NBA superstars I would most want to meet. and now they are on the same team!
 
qouted for truth last night, my friend!

the Nuggets have beaten the Lakers twice this year, by a combined 40 points (about?).

and this time Denver did it without Carmelo Anthony. it's nice to see Chauncey Billups still light it up, I'm a big fan of his point guard play - I just couldn't relish in his skills too much because he played in my rival city of Detroit for so many years. why the Big D ever got rid of him in the first place I will never know!
 
Axl . . .axl . . axl.

When will you learn?

It's only THE REGULAR SEASON.

Yes - Denver just beat the Lakers convinvingly AGAIN, and yet I'd STILL be happy to wager as much as you want that the Lakers will go further in this year's play-offs than will Denver.

You seem to place FAR too much importance on the regular season.

Maybe that's why you keep getting deluded into thinking that Cleveland is the best team in the league (they're not, AT LEAST until they actually EVER win a single GAME in the Finals [let alone *gasp* . . . a TITLE!].

And maybe that's why you, Bill Simmons and the rest of you gawkers are silly enough to actually think that LeBron's better than Kobe.

I can't WAIT to continue this conversation in June.
 
Denver just punked LA, and I do think that the Nuggets will overcome the Lakers in the Wester Conference Finals. this is just me, though.

and Cleveland is the best team in the league, right now. I don't know how you can delude yourself into thinking that they are not? their record proves this. they might not be the best team in a month, or at the end of the season - but right now the Cavs are easily the best team in the NBA.
 
axl, you up for an avy bet?

I'll bet you that Cavs won't make it to the finals. If I win, I choose whatever avy I want and you have to keep it for a month.

If they make it, you get to pick an avy for me and I have to keep it for a month as well.
 
WHO WANTS TO BUY SOME DVDS??

the new Nike puppet commercial is hilarious, finally they make a good one of those.

Cleveland extends its franchise breaking win streak to 12, with a very impressive win against Orlando. LeBron alleyhoop to Shaq is still pulsating in my b-ball memory banks (that's why I love this game!).

Nuggets VS Spurs was a decent match-up, but the game got boring towards the end and you know how the Spurs capitalize on boring. was rooting for Anthony and Nene, but they came up short.

Serious: sounds like a juicy offer. I will think about it. what team's avatar would you choose?
 
Axl:

I suppose that you now think that Dwayne Wade is better than LeBron, based on your "which player outplayed the other in a rather meaningless game" criteria.
 
what meaningless game are you talking about?

it's shocking that you're still ferociously defending Kobe. are you that blind to think that LBJ is NOT GOING to be the league MVP again this year? nobody really has a chance against him so far, except for maybe Carmelo Anthony. Kobe is hardly in the discussion. and that's not the LBJ fan in me; that's the obvious, cold-hard-facts, basketball fan in me.
 
The relatively-meaningless game to which I was referring was last night's All-Star game, in which Wade (and NOT LeBron) was named MVP.

I was simply trying to illustrate to you that you can't judge "Who's Better?" based on one or two NON-PLAY-OFF games.

LeBron won MVP of last year's REGULAR SEASON.

Hell - Steve Nash won it TWICE a few years back.

Do you truly believe that Nash was better than Kobe, too?

Karl Malone and Charles Barkley have each "beaten" an in-his-prime MJ in the vote for MVP.

Were THEY better than MJ?

Winning the MVP award, while not completely insignificant, is very very biased, and is certainly NOT the best indicator of who is the best player in the league.

Winning the NBA Championship, on the other hand, is NOT a popularity contest.

Kobe's done it four times.

I think we all know how many times LeBron's won it.

When LeBron eventually wins his FIRST title, THEN, this becomes a worthwhile discussion.

Until then, however, enjoy AGAIN getting the number 1 seed in the worst conference in sports, and enjoy AGAIN depending upon a boy who bites his nails in crunch-time to come through against teams who wouldn't even make the play-offs in the West.
 
I was feigning ignorance over the All-Star remark. obviously, I couldn't take it seriously at all.

are you still trying to implement West over East supremacy? again, I am starting to think that you haven't been watching sports at all the last two to three years; where the East has pretty much regained dominance. I hate to try to prove this point to you, as I'm sure you know I am right, but up and down the East has the better teams this year. granted, the West had a long great run when both the Spurs and Lakers were great teams... but ever since Boston joined the elite party, and Orlando got good - with the combination of the Cavaliers; the West doesn't really match up anymore.

I mean, the Lakers are easily the favorites in the West, but they got spanked twice this year by the Cavs. the only team that can seriously contend with the Lakers in the playoffs in the Conference Finals should be the Nuggets.

I don't know what you have against Cleveland, it is a pretty nondescript, shitty, working class city - but you simply have to be sipping the strongest Haterade in the world right now to think that they are not the best team in the NBA, right now.

L O V E L I F E said:
Until then, however, enjoy AGAIN getting the number 1 seed in the worst conference in sports, and enjoy AGAIN depending upon a boy who bites his nails in crunch-time to come through against teams who wouldn't even make the play-offs in the West.
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surely, you mean division - not conference, right? I have no idea where this is coming from - as the Cavs have an alright division, but this is coming from a guy who likes the Lakers. and the Lakers division is even worst than Cleveland's - come on. this is a division where the L. A. Clippers are the third best team in division!!

it might change in at the end of the year - but right now they have stomped on all the competition :\
 
as the trade deadline awaits, some blockbusters are trying to be taking place.

the beloved Cleveland Cavaliers are trying to trade for either Amare Stoudemire from the Suns, Troy Murphy from the Pacers, or Antwan Jamison from the Wizards.

as a Cavs fan, I detest the idea of Amare, and I don't think Troy Murphy will give them any sort of advantage. we already saw the recipe for (un)sucess that Amare + Shaq equals. I understand they want to give LBJ another All-Star in his prime, but I don't think Amare is not the answer (he can't play defense at all, and the Cavs are known for their team D).

another team looking to add stars to, to keep their star, is the Miami Heat for Dwayne Wade. they are also trying to aim for Amare's attention - and I think that he would be a rather formidible foe for anyone on that team.

what NBA stars is your team trying to get?
 
^^^^^^^^^^

The Eastern Conference currently has SIX teams above .500.

The Western Conference has ELEVEN.

Further, if you take the Top Three teams from each conference, ALL SIX OF THEM have better records against Eastern Conference teams than they do against Western Conference teams.

And admittedly, this has been a bit of a down year for the West - in the past several years, the dominance of the West has been even more pronounced than it has been this season.

So given all of these objective pieces of evidence, please explain to me why you think the Eastern Conference is better than the Western Conference.

Peace,

LL
 
seriously? I never thought I would have to have this conversation with anybody, but if you really can't see...

lets look at the teams from top-to-bottom:

Cleveland VS L. A. - while you might be still on the Kobe bandwagon, the fact is Cleveland has owned LA in the regular season this year, with the Cavs sweeping this team 2-0.
Victor: Cavs

Orlando VS Denver - this would be a great match-up, but I would have to give the slight edge to Orlando this year.
Victor: Magic

Atlanta VS Utah - no question here, I think ATL would win.
Victor: Hawks

Boston VS Dallas - again I think that the Celtics sweep the Mavs easily in a playoff scenario, as one still has to respect the Celtics to maybe make the NBA Finals. the Mavs are nowhere close to that good.
Victor: Celtics

Toronto VS San Antonio - I would have to give the edge to San Antonio.
Victory: Spurs

do we really need to go down further, into meaninglessness? so from first to fifth seeds, we have the West only really winning on series, perhaps two if Denver could put it together.

you're living in the past man.
 
I gave you empirical evidence which showed that of the top three teams in each conference, ALL SIX OF THEM have an easier time against Eastern Conference teams than they do against Western Conference teams.

*You* countered that, NOT with evidence to the contrary, but rather, with your personal opinion.

You can continue deluding yourself if you'd like.

But the FACTS show that although the gap may have narrowed from last year, the West is still the better conference.
 
that's because the West has better bottom feeders than the East, no question about that.

however, in the top echelon of both conferences, the Eastern conference is easily better. look above to those teams and tell me which games would go wrong (most of the teams haven't completed a serious against one another).

it's simple to say, empirically, that Cleveland is better than LA this year because the Cavs have beat the Lakers twice.

anything else is on speculation, but if you think that say, Dallas would beat Boston in a best out of 7, you are deluding yourself.

the East was better last year, despite the Lakers being the best team in the West and overall. the second best team, the Nuggets, last year were not nearly as good as they are now this year. the Spurs were worst, and maybe the Jazz were the only improved team. to say that the West was better than the East, overall last year, makes me scratch my head.

I was the first to admit how the West was a powerful basketball conference for the many years that it was. but you have to realize when there has been a power shift. and there has.
 
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