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Synergising Chemistry to find the "MAGIC"

On par maybe, but there's definately a slight difference in the subjective effects, although you may not notice it unless you were looking for it. If you gave someone a random pill and said it contained either MDMA or 4mmc, I'm sure most (experienced) people would be able to guess which it was within an hour or so of it kicking in.
 
MrIbis said:
sustanon, we need not your 'knowledge' or lack thereof.

We're talking about unique synergies that could creat that kinda magic mdma produces - if you can find pure mdma - good luck to you, i cannot, and would like that experience, whilst in my studies as a human guinea pig - perhaps find something other people can enjoy without expense to the law
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Fair enough. The point i was trying to make out is that no matter how hard u try u will never be able to find that "magic" that MDMA can offer u. Believe me i have been trying to find something like that ur looking for over the past 6-7 years with no luck.

Its like comparing 2 different things and thinking that they are the exact same. I would love to find what u are looking for. I feel for u on the MDMA, its def around but u need to sift through alot of crap before u will find it. The question is are u willing to do that?

I have pretty bad opinions about Research Chems. Are u willing to risk ur life with something thats more dangerous than MDMA?
 
Sustanon said:
I have pretty bad opinions about Research Chems. Are u willing to risk ur life with something thats more dangerous than MDMA?
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I am on the same boat, stay that way mate.


http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=56450

Had nasty RC experience back in 2006.... this is a good guide from Nickthecheeese ...... tired to find a old thread of mine when I was carted off to the hospital due some RC label mix up that I purchased off the internet.

One HELL of a trippy experience.


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Seems a lot of "RC" now days are way different compared back to the old days... seems they becoming more lethal.

Gee.... Know your Poison, know your mind, know your body before you bite the magic bullet guys.

There's no magic, that's a sad fact.

Learnt the hard way. :)
 
Err... my comments wern't a shot at urbie.... I'm just saying i've heard stories bout him and acid.. whats wrong with that???

Dunno why anyone took it as such. I havn't got an issue with him, or anything he's done... u and i get along pretty well p_d or so i thought, i figure you'd be able to tell if i was having a go at someone or not.
 
Tripman said:
Well living a long life may not be an issue I guess, but quality of life is important. I mean I'm all for finding new ways to get the magic, I just have seen friends end up institutionalised from doing this kind of shit. One of my old friends was completely convinced he was a vessel in which you'd carry a liquid. It isn't pleasant, he is constantly in fear of being touched in case he is "spilt".

As long as you are careful and dose small to start with I guess. It is good that you asked here first, and I look forward to reading your findings.
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Whatever, everyone has heard about the dude who thinks he is an orange and screams at you not to eat him, or the dude that thinks hes a washing machine and eats socks ect.

Sorry but your little tale sounds too much like the common bullshit that is told, to be blunt i think you're completely full of shit.
 
8L4YN3 said:
Whatever, everyone has heard about the dude who thinks he is an orange and screams at you not to eat him, or the dude that thinks hes a washing machine and eats socks ect.

Sorry but your little tale sounds too much like the common bullshit that is told, to be blunt i think you're completely full of shit.
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Mate I don't give a fuck what you think, I know the truth and I know that I lost one of my best friends.

So to put it simply just don't talk to me about it and you can think i'm full of shit. i KNOW the TRUTH. You don't so shut the fuck up basically because that truly offends me because I have to visit him in a mental institution weekly and EVERY time it completely drains and pains me to see what has become of him.
 
OK guys - This thread is already skirting the boundaries of what's acceptable. Poly-drug use carries with it increased risks and if this thread continues down the path of 'what's the best combo to get fucked up' then it will simply be closed.

Keep it on topic, away from personal attacks and the information factual.
 
8L4YN3 said:
Whatever, everyone has heard about the dude who thinks he is an orange and screams at you not to eat him, or the dude that thinks hes a washing machine and eats socks ect.

Sorry but your little tale sounds too much like the common bullshit that is told, to be blunt i think you're completely full of shit.
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lol at least you're upfront and honest, i thought it was a bit iffy but i wudnt to say anything just in case its true, in which case i'de feel bad for him and his friend.

as to synergizing to find magic, what exactly are you looking for? mdma like magic?? ive felt in magical places a few times, however other then MDxx ive never had drugs that take you there consistantly (for the record, i've had "magic" off weed, mdxx, lsd, ketamine maybe once or twice off different things)
 
mdma magic. That amazing seretonin/dopaminergic rush that'll have you wanting to kiss your parents and make up with people you don't like. Pure Euphoria. That is what i'm searching for
 
MrIbis said:
mdma magic. That amazing seretonin/dopaminergic rush that'll have you wanting to kiss your parents and make up with people you don't like. Pure Euphoria. That is what i'm searching for
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Good luck with it mate, let me know if u have found it. U know that MDA, MDEA, MDAI and all its relatives do not have that quality u are looking for unless its MDMA.
 
All of these three things will be achieved one day, maybe not in our life times.

But it's the people that sit there and say "nah it's just not possible." You have to try to succeed.


Very similar example is the issue of legalizing weed, people just sit around saying its not gonna happen.. That's because they're sitting around saying its not gonna happen rather than actually trying to make it happen.
 
How about: going clean.
eating well.
partaking in vigorous exercise.
ridding the body of all unnecessary toxins.
occupying one's mind with other thoughts and issues in life aside from getting high.
being nice, good-willed and respectful towards thy fellow beings.
genuinely giving a shit about people other than oneself.
embracing life, in all its glowing potential.

I guarantee that prolonged and conscientious practice of the above tasks can, over a period of time, lead to a similarly euphoric state of bliss that you look to your periodic table of elements for, to try and procure.....

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hyroller said:
How about: going clean.
eating well.
partaking in vigorous exercise.
ridding the body of all unnecessary toxins.
occupying one's mind with other thoughts and issues in life aside from getting high.
being nice, good-willed and respectful towards thy fellow beings.
genuinely giving a shit about people other than oneself.
embracing life, in all its glowing potential.

I guarantee that prolonged and conscientious practice of the above tasks can, over a period of time, lead to a similarly euphoric state of bliss that you look to your periodic table of elements for, to try and procure.....

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I agree with this but the people who have achieved states like this through years of practice and doing nothing else. Unlike Buddhist monks we need money for food, etc etc. They use techniques such as sleep deprivation to help achieve this, which does damage to them, chemicals are just another method IMO.

hyroller said:
occupying one's mind with other thoughts and issues in life aside from getting high.
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If I didn't have these other thoughts and issues, I wouldn't get high.
 
Jakeperson said:
I agree with this but the people who have achieved states like this through years of practice and doing nothing else. Unlike Buddhist monks we need money for food, etc etc. They use techniques such as sleep deprivation to help achieve this, which does damage to them, chemicals are just another method IMO.
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Sleep deprivation or unnecessary suffering is one way of meditation used, not all yogas are designed like that. Do your research =)
 
I was just generally trying to steer people away from the 'necessity' to manipulate the brain's chemicals to reach a genuinely loved-up, high-on-life state of mind... not directing anything specifically at you Jake :)

and I simply mean paying more mind toward constructive thoughts & occupations, this whole 'compulsion to use drugs' in order to feel good is getting slightly outdated. at least, from where I'm standing...
 
has anyone experienced mdai with psychedelics? As in lsd or one of the various 2cx compounds? I find the high on lsd to be a lot like, but more pleasant and smooth than mdma.
 
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hyroller - read the title of the thread... We don't need your get healthy eat right bullshit in here - it's going to start a flame war. Many things can cause a euphoric state of bliss - im looking for the right combo of things that are easy to procure (as MDMA is not so) that'll have me cuddling strangers - no amount of fucking spirulina is going to force me into wanting to give bums money... oh how i miss those days.

And for the record - many things have come close, but generally they're one off experiences - and its when unexpected that this state occurs. And coming from your exerpts on meth hyroller - it seems using drugs to feel ok is your vice.. not to feel 'good/great'.
 
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