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Bluelight and the Aussie Internet Filter – Will it affect us?

illyni said:
Labor has very little to lose with this filter because they know the people most outraged by it are at the very most going to vote 1 Greens and 2 ALP and think it means they're 'sending a message', which actually means almost nothing to their re-election chances.
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Yes and no. Voting 1 Green 2 Labor does a couple of things - firstly, it directs election funds to the Greens and away from Labor. This means the Greens can hire more people and get more campaigning done (they have more resources now than ever before due to a rising 1 vote). Secondly, if you live in inner city seats around the country, your Green candidate may win! Seriously, around 6-10 seats are potential winners if the swing to Green is high enough. %)

True - these factors mean Labor would still win, but they may have to do a bit more Green negotiation, which can only be good for the internet filter and drug policy IMHO.
 
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Absolutely. Voting Green is not a waste of time. If the Greens have the balance of power in the Senate it will do a lot to moderate these kinds of influences in the Labor party. The Greens have shown themselves to be a mature and responsible political party. They are pragmatic, but they are also the most progressive real political entity in Australia at the moment, and they are getting more popular as time goes on. And they would never let this shit pass.
 
Just out of curiosity, is anyone following the piracy court case between the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft (AFACT) and iiNet? A judgement is due later this week. What are the implications for Aussie internet users if iiNet lose? Will ISPs be required to monitor all net traffic (including p2p) to ensure no copyrighted material is downloaded and what infringments on privacy will this entail? How would this fit in with the filter?

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/334606/iinet_afact_set_judgement_day/?fp=16&fpid=1

http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/com...over-ISPs-future/0,139023754,339300678,00.htm

http://www.theage.com.au/technology...-case-could-cut-web-access-20100131-n6bi.html
 
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Every vote counts people.

The Green can't get voted into government if no one votes for them.

The Greens have been a huge advocate for human rights and freedom of speech, and have been completely opposed to the Internet Filter since the start.They are smart enough to realise there is more important issues in todays society than chasing votes and keeping religous groups happy.

Belarki; I'm not really sure of the implications, but I've been loosely following the court case the last few weeks and I'd be VERY surprised if iiNet lost. Of course, this is making the great assumption that case will be fair...which is unlikely in a Piracy case.

If iiNet did lose, the precedent would be set and we would likely have copyright agencies going crazy with lawsuits. It's a bit too early to say how it would impact the proposed internet filter I think.
 
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With respect to the iinet case, the judge in question is a technology luddite, he doesn't understand technology and it is more than likely that there will be a ruling against iinet. If this is the case, it will strengthen the government's call for filtering to be applied to P2P connections, and give them a legal basis for introducing both filtering and invasive copyright controls. The government wants this to happen.

As a background to all this, the Australian governement are heavily involved in the secret negotiations taking place with respect to the ACTA (Anti Counterfeitting Trade Agreement) a global agreement that seeks to shackle the free flow of information on the internet by creating legal and technological structures that prevent copyrighted materials from flowing. No one knows the full extent beyond the negotiators at the talks, and they are subject to gag orders, the US government has made it a matter of national security.

Welcome to Orson Welles 1984 - the only thing he got wrong was the date.
 
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Sameria said:
Every vote counts people.

The Green can't get voted into government if no one votes for them.
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My point wasn't that people shouldn't vote Greens, but that the Libs (even under Abbott) are probably a lot more moderate on thought crimes and free speech at the moment than Labor is (see the filter, R-rating for video games, commenting on SA election, females being able to ejaculate on camera, the recognition that women with small breasts are not in fact children, offensive t-shirt laws, etc), and in either case aren't taking an entire section of the community for granted. This especially applies if you live in Mitchell or Mayo, where the Liberal MPs have been especially outspoken about this issue, among others.
 
illyni said:
My point wasn't that people shouldn't vote Greens, but that the Libs (even under Abbott) are probably a lot more moderate on thought crimes and free speech at the moment than Labor is (see the filter, R-rating for video games, commenting on SA election, females being able to ejaculate on camera, the recognition that women with small breasts are not in fact children, offensive t-shirt laws, etc), and in either case aren't taking an entire section of the community for granted. This especially applies if you live in Mitchell or Mayo, where the Liberal MPs have been especially outspoken about this issue, among others.
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The libs haven't produced any policies whatsoever on the filter or censorship and with abbott in charge you can guarantee they'll come up with more repressive laws than what labor has so far. Abbott is more in bed with the christian lobbies than rudd is and thats saying something!

They are also way further right on drug issues too, look at the WA liberals increasing penalties for cannabis possesion WTF!!?!!
 
All this shit - Australia is pretty much officially a police state. It's fucked - but who is going to want to live in this country - surely even those who police the public (the jacks) don't want half of these laws passed because they themselves would have an MP3 or 5000 on their hard drives at home.


[EDIT: If suggesting we kill politicians is the most constructive thing you can add, perhaps just not post? hoptis]
 
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Don't even think about voting liberals. Getyourselfhigh is absolutely correct. Along with the fact that the Internet Censorship proposal was generally started by petitions signed by hillsong and later day saints, plus the ridiculous report from Hamilton.

Libs and Labor need to be voted under the line, right down the bottom.

The only real group that is 100% against Internet censorship and has put down far better progressive policies is the democrats.

They also, all round, have more progressive policies than any other semi mainstream political group including support for harm reduction in illicit drug use.

IMO, this is the only political group that somewhat lines up with my ideals and that could gain some traction.

The pirate party is still a mess at the moment and the sex party don't have wide enough visions.

Is there a bluelight endorsed political group??
 
Is there a bluelight endorsed political group??
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Any political party that promotes freedom of information, choice, and more responsible approaches to harm reduction is a supporter of bluelight. Sooner or later, people will grow up enough to understand that discussion or depiction of an action or activity is not the same as condoning it.

Until then http://www.strongvpn.com
 
Can someone give me a good link to where the democrats stand on most views in the upcoming election, because I'm definately looking at greens followed up by the demo's which I feel stupid doing because all I'm going on is that they are against the censorship I'd like to see some of their other views. thx all

Party safe =D
 
Sameria said:
Belarki; I'm not really sure of the implications, but I've been loosely following the court case the last few weeks and I'd be VERY surprised if iiNet lost. Of course, this is making the great assumption that case will be fair...which is unlikely in a Piracy case.

If iiNet did lose, the precedent would be set and we would likely have copyright agencies going crazy with lawsuits. It's a bit too early to say how it would impact the proposed internet filter I think.
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Woohoo iiNet won! One small victory at a time hey? =D

http://www.computerworld.com.au/art...mmary_justice_cowdroy_decision_/?fp=16&fpid=1
 
thestudent14 said:
Can someone give me a good link to where the democrats stand on most views in the upcoming election, because I'm definately looking at greens followed up by the demo's which I feel stupid doing because all I'm going on is that they are against the censorship I'd like to see some of their other views. thx all

Party safe =D
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The Democrats are politically dead. I wouldn't bother if I were you.
 
I'm sure if the time comes we'll make up a list of things people can do/use to still access BL but until then, there's no need to keep posting the same link. Thanks
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I see multiple reposting of links incorporated in signatures so thanks for jumping on me for that.

With respect to iinet's victory, the implications are reasonably clear, a major argument that the government had for extending filtering to P2P connections has just disappeared. The ruling itself may not directly apply to filtering, but essentially puts the responsibility for what you do with your internet connection in your hands instead of (as AFACT argued) the ISP's.
 
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Akhenaten said:
I see multiple reposting of links incorporated in signatures so thanks for jumping on me for that.
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They're links to within Bluelight, not to a commercial website external to us that is selling something. When we start building a directory of commercial VPN providers, you're more than welcome to post as many as you wish.
 
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