Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

[Broken_LCD]

I was just wondering if anyone has tried the free support program the makers of Suboxone, R-B, have to offer?

I got a card for it when I got inducted into the local Suboxone program. Didn't want to waste my time signing up for it and going through reading if it sucked.

It says you get assigned a "care coach" to help you through via phone/e-mail, e-mail support, 24/7 access to information, etc... it sounds good but if it's hokey or the care coaches are fake/rude I don't want a part of it. They supposedly call every week to find out how you are doing too. I actually think it's kinda cool for a drug company to be doing all this in the first place.

Was it worth it if you have taken advantage of the program? How was the support?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Id get some if i knew where to find it.

I live in fucking Florida damnit. I shouldn't have trouble finding any pill

You can get it prescribed to you, or you can make friends with H/oxy users who have their own scripts and want to flip Suboxone for dope $. Obviously the best solution is you getting Suboxone so it's legally yours though.

And you're right. I have no opiod tolerance whatsoever. 15mg of oxycodone will send me into space

15mg of oxycodone gives me a rush and a high as well. I prefer 1mg of dilaudid to 15mg of oxycodone though.

I was just wondering if anyone has tried the free support program the makers of Suboxone, R-B, have to offer?

I got a card for it when I got inducted into the local Suboxone program. Didn't want to waste my time signing up for it and going through reading if it sucked.

It says you get assigned a "care coach" to help you through via phone/e-mail, e-mail support, 24/7 access to information, etc... it sounds good but if it's hokey or the care coaches are fake/rude I don't want a part of it. They supposedly call every week to find out how you are doing too. I actually think it's kinda cool for a drug company to be doing all this in the first place.

Was it worth it if you have taken advantage of the program? How was the support?

Someone else asked about this in a different thread. I don't remember anyone saying they got that at all.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ that post (the one about 15mg oxy) got me thinking.. ive been on suboxone for 2 years and ive lowered my dose to about 2-3mg a day. i wonder sometimes how much of my old DOC (oxycodone) i would need to get high.. i can probly figure it out with dosage converters or charts but i'd like to experience the OC feeling just ONE more time. ive never cheated on suboxone and dont think i will. but there's always that thing in the back of my mind saying get high 1 more time. sorry im just rambling now. and im done.

 

[Broken_LCD]

I mentioned it in another thread but I figured I'd give it a shot in the FAQ since I have never seen it asked on here before.

Think I might just go for it and sign up, just kinda wanted some sort of review of those coaches. After I sign up tomorrow I'll come back here and write up how it went... if anyone who's got a Suboxone script wants the number/website for the program/info on it feel free to PM me...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

^ that post (the one about 15mg oxy) got me thinking.. ive been on suboxone for 2 years and ive lowered my dose to about 2-3mg a day. i wonder sometimes how much of my old DOC (oxycodone) i would need to get high.. i can probly figure it out with dosage converters or charts but i'd like to experience the OC feeling just ONE more time. ive never cheated on suboxone and dont think i will. but there's always that thing in the back of my mind saying get high 1 more time. sorry im just rambling now. and im done.

haha it's OK man. I thought your ramble was interesting. This was on my mind for a while so I tried other opiates while on Suboxone (but only 3 separate instances, and I went back on Suboxone without any problems, just to test the water).

It would be better to wait until you're done with Suboxone though IMO. If you do choose to dabble be careful and don't let yourself fall in too hard.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

haha it's OK man. I thought your ramble was interesting. This was on my mind for a while so I tried other opiates while on Suboxone (but only 3 separate instances, and I went back on Suboxone without any problems, just to test the water).

It would be better to wait until you're done with Suboxone though IMO. If you do choose to dabble be careful and don't let yourself fall in too hard.

Yeah true, but i dont plan on stopping suboxone anytime soon.. i need that "something" i might be a lifer.. but i dont think ill cheat and try oxy again cuz i know where that will lead me.. right back to where i started.

 

[Broken_LCD]

^ that post (the one about 15mg oxy) got me thinking.. ive been on suboxone for 2 years and ive lowered my dose to about 2-3mg a day. i wonder sometimes how much of my old DOC (oxycodone) i would need to get high.. i can probly figure it out with dosage converters or charts but i'd like to experience the OC feeling just ONE more time. ive never cheated on suboxone and dont think i will. but there's always that thing in the back of my mind saying get high 1 more time. sorry im just rambling now. and im done.

Nah man, don't do it!!! If you haven't cheated on the Subs yet don't start. I think about it too, but I also think if I do it once then I would end up doing it again. I know personally I have like no self-control, I tell myself "only once" and it always happens more.

I know exactly what you are saying though and that thought in the back of your head. It bothers me when I think that summer had to be the last time I spent days high on oxy/heroin and laying in the sun, that amazing feeling gone forever. Then I think about all the money I blew, how the summer would have been better if I had money to do things, gas for my car, got so far behind on my bills, sooo sick when I couldn't get at my dealer, or someone bought the whole new batch of pills before I could get at them. I tell myself it doesn't seem worth it, I need to stick with the Suboxone and not waste my slot on the program, I've been given a crazy awesome opportunity and I can't mess things up this time.

Good luck with everything man!!! Stay strong with it, you made it this far!!!

Edit: I took too long writing this and Capt. H beat me, sorry if it's all redundant now.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^Thanks for the support

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Yeah true, but i dont plan on stopping suboxone anytime soon.. i need that "something" i might be a lifer.. but i dont think ill cheat and try oxy again cuz i know where that will lead me.. right back to where i started.

Sounds good.

I don't know if I'll be able to quit using Suboxone within this next year or so. If not I'll probably plan on being on it long term. I still haven't made up my mind.

 

[rolls_]

Sounds good.

I don't know if I'll be able to quit using Suboxone within this next year or so. If not I'll probably plan on being on it long term. I still haven't made up my mind.

Considered going from IV > Oral? That would be a huge step, would also be far more socially acceptable if you are working as well.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Considered going from IV > Oral? That would be a huge step, would also be far more socially acceptable if you are working as well.

No, not really. IV is a lot more effective. I don't use buprenorphine in front of other people so it really doesn't matter. I use 31G needles and rotate sites so it isn't very noticeable that I inject.

 

[rolls_]

No, not really. IV is a lot more effective. I don't use buprenorphine in front of other people so it really doesn't matter. I use 31G needles and rotate sites so it isn't very noticeable that I inject.

Effective at getting you a rush? or effective at holding you?

Personally I would say oral is more effective as you only need to dose once per day, you are however injecting 3-4x I think I read? Not to mention you just stick a tablet under your tongue, don't need to stick a needle in your arm.

I guess my point is surely it will be a lot easier to jump off if you are just use it under the tongue, if you are IVing you also have to kick the mental habit of using a needle. Not having a go, I just think that it would be a big step towards getting clean personally.

 

[Pegasus]

I was just wondering if anyone has tried the free support program the makers of Suboxone, R-B, have to offer?

I got a card for it when I got inducted into the local Suboxone program. Didn't want to waste my time signing up for it and going through reading if it sucked.

It says you get assigned a "care coach" to help you through via phone/e-mail, e-mail support, 24/7 access to information, etc... it sounds good but if it's hokey or the care coaches are fake/rude I don't want a part of it. They supposedly call every week to find out how you are doing too. I actually think it's kinda cool for a drug company to be doing all this in the first place.

Was it worth it if you have taken advantage of the program? How was the support?

I had a friend that was in this program. His doctor was allowed two patients that he could enroll in the program and he chose my friend to be one of them. The way he described it was just like you did, but I don't know in practice how it played out.

 

[rolls_]

I had a friend that was in this program. His doctor was allowed two patients that he could enroll in the program and he chose my friend to be one of them. The way he described it was just like you did, but I don't know in practice how it played out.

Fuck I would pay a lot of money to be a part of such program (providing the callers/docs were experienced folk)/

 

[Pegasus]

^Try talking to a few doctors about it. Like it was mentioned, it is a program sponsored by Reckitt & Benckiser through the licensed Sub doctors.

 

[rolls_]

^Try talking to a few doctors about it. Like it was mentioned, it is a program sponsored by Reckitt & Benckiser through the licensed Sub doctors.

I live in Australia so I assume no such luck.

 

[Pegasus]

^Yeah, that may be an issue! ...I don't know why I didn't think of that...

 

[asouthern]

day 8 of no opiates at all. i only took suboxone for 3 days after being on around 300mg of hydros for 1.5 years.

it has been just as difficult as we all know it always is. most of the physical symptoms have subsided but now i'm experiencing some relatively hardcore depression and irritability. i know this is also to be expected but it's such a difficult thing to get through the day with. i am forcing myself to try and get out and do as much as i can even though climbing a flight of stairs makes me feel like my heart is going to explode.

this forum is helping me with the day to day struggles, i can't thank you guys enough. but i just can't wait to be "normal" or at least somewhere close to that state of mind. i hate this feeling so much.

thankfully i do have support from friends and just this morning i told my dad about what has been going on and although i don't think he can fully comprehend the idea of being addicted to opiates he let me know he would be supportive of me as well.

such a tough road. i commend anyone who has been able to kick this shit for good. i have all the right intentions for wanting to be clean and am determined to keep pushing through knowing that there is light at the end of the tunnel but this just... sucks.

 

[polio vaccine]

hey, i apologize if this question has already been answered here, but i did some searches and i couldn't find any relevant responses--

i recently got scripted to suboxone and i can't get an answer from my outpatient people about this:

when i take it sublingually, do i have to hold the spit in my mouth until the whole pill is dissolved?? i have been doing that thus far, and then swallowing the spit once there's no more pill under my tongue, but it's just kind of gross having a mouthful of spit for ten minutes.

i asked elsewhere on another forum and one person said i don't have to save the spit, but another person said i do. like i said, i have been saving the spit thus far.

so do i have to do that? i know i can sniff it too, but my nose is a little beat up already and i'm trying to sniff things rather sparingly.

i know i can iv it too--tried that once--but again, i want to protect my veins these days. plus i'm being supervised by a million different people and i can't afford to have a ton of tracks.

so yeah, about the spit:

answers are appreciated......thanks in advance!

 

[asouthern]

hey, i apologize if this question has already been answered here, but i did some searches and i couldn't find any relevant responses--

i recently got scripted to suboxone and i can't get an answer from my outpatient people about this:

when i take it sublingually, do i have to hold the spit in my mouth until the whole pill is dissolved?? i have been doing that thus far, and then swallowing the spit once there's no more pill under my tongue, but it's just kind of gross having a mouthful of spit for ten minutes.

i asked elsewhere on another forum and one person said i don't have to save the spit, but another person said i do. like i said, i have been saving the spit thus far.

so do i have to do that? i know i can sniff it too, but my nose is a little beat up already and i'm trying to sniff things rather sparingly.

i know i can iv it too--tried that once--but again, i want to protect my veins these days. plus i'm being supervised by a million different people and i can't afford to have a ton of tracks.

so yeah, about the spit:

answers are appreciated......thanks in advance!

no you don't have to hold all the spit in your mouth. i think some people do this because the bupe is absorbed through your mouth whereas the naloxone is digested when you swallow it.

i've heard of people letting it fill up in their mouth and then taking tiny sips or just spitting the stuff out all together but if you're doing that to avoid the naloxone then (in my opinion) you shouldn't even be on a drug like suboxone.