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HBWR - Methods

KyesaRRi

KyesaRRi

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Hey all, my HBWR seeds are set to arrive in the next few days and i have a few questions that i would like to pose to you all.

I am going to be testing these seeds first by eating 5 or so (chewing then swallow) to see just how potent they are. I have been reading about various methods of converting the LSAs into LSH via peppermint oil (Salicylates).

Has anyone here used this method? Is it really just as simple as grind, soak and add oil?

In addition to the question what would people recommend soaking the seeds in? I have some 80%~ rum (Stroh) that tastes like paint thinner as well as some 50% vodka (Absolute). Or do people recommend using a CWE?

Posts both on Bluelight and other forums tend to be all over the place with many opinions on the subject so any further light on the subject would be of great help.

Thanks!
 
Read the Big and Dandy LSA Thread located in Psychedelic Drugs.

Also, there is a easy LSA extraction technique on Erowid which can be found Here.

I suggest that you do not ingest the seeds without performing an extraction, as that can make you very ill.
 
mrjackjones said:
Read the Big and Dandy LSA Thread located in Psychedelic Drugs.

Also, there is a easy LSA extraction technique on Erowid which can be found Here.

I suggest that you do not ingest the seeds without performing an extraction, as that can make you very ill.
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Yeah i have had a read through the Big and Dandy thread, lots of opinions in there. I guess i should have checked Erowid first but thanks for pointing me in the correct direction. I will most likely go against your recommendation and eat 5 with some ginger root to help with the nausea, id like to get a feel for the seeds pre and post prep.

I will most likely do a trip report after the first trial and then again after the second, once again thanks.
 
You'd probably be better off following a crude naptha / alcohol extraction. It will definately reduce the negative side effects of HBWR seeds.

Be aware, the seeds are a nasty vasoconstrictor and you will get semi-painful cramps in your legs and abdomen. You'll likely need to purge too.

Is there any reason you are choosing HBWR over other psychedelics?
 
i have before just simply ate 4 seeds without doing anything to them. not worth it. I had vomited within an hours time but felt good after that.i hardly tripped at all maybe im just insensistive. for me about ten would be pretty decent trip. i spose he is choosing HWBR becuase he cant get acid and wants to experiment.
 
^edit*LSA is the closest chemical to LSD. All it takes is a bit of effort, and makes a wonderful trip.

DXM is good for dissociation. It has uses such as unlocking hidden memories, but does not have good OEV's, and is not as clean a high as LSD or LSA.
 
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halogenic said:
i have before just simply ate 4 seeds without doing anything to them. not worth it. I had vomited within an hours time but felt good after that.i hardly tripped at all maybe im just insensistive. for me about ten would be pretty decent trip. i spose he is choosing HWBR becuase he cant get acid and wants to experiment.
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4 seeds is too low a dose and a naptha (shellite from hardware store) extraction would have saved you from the purging

A good dose seems to be around 8-12 seeds

I honestly don't like it, it is nothing in comparison to LSD

Visuals and mind state never seem to some close
 
^hehe, good call on the edit, PsiloSubNaut.

I did a nice clean dose of LSA the other night, and I must say, I did have some decent CEVs and OEVs. You are right about it not being close to LSD. I do very reminiscent of LSD in many ways though, the main way being very comfortable and smiling throughout the entire experience. I would have liked more visuals though.
 
If i were u i would stay away from that shit. For starters as mentioned above it is nothing like a psychedelic trip. Its a deliriant. That was my 1st encounter with a substance like that when psychedelics started to fascinate me.

I spent the whole night vomiting and feeling very sick even with a low dose. I bought ones that wernt treated and they made me ill also. This is a thing along with piperazines that i will never ever touch again in my life. Anyway that was my 2 cents, if u go ahead with it goodluck but u have heard my side of view.
 
mrjackjones said:
^hehe, good call on the edit, PsiloSubNaut.

I did a nice clean dose of LSA the other night, and I must say, I did have some decent CEVs and OEVs. You are right about it not being close to LSD. I do very reminiscent of LSD in many ways though, the main way being very comfortable and smiling throughout the entire experience. I would have liked more visuals though.
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LSA just doesn't seem to produce the strong OEV's that LSD is famous for

A good last resort when other substances can't be acquired but an extraction is by far the recommended way to use
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
A good dose seems to be around 8-12 seeds
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It all depends on the seeds you get. 3 fresh seeds put one of my mates on his arse for 12 hours.

Also I have never had any dramas with nausea, just make sure you prepare them properly beforehand.
 
I have tried HBWR many times the first taking ten seeds and chowing down I had never been so sick in my life Like tripping but with contionous nausea,

These days I take around 4-6 occasionaly Found the best way is to remove as much of the outer dark husk of the seeds with a sharp knife so that there is a lighter coloured shown underneath minute or so in the microwave with a little water stand for a few minutes and chew and swallow a sweet soft drink or cordial with help with the taste too :)

Removing the husk has made a huge difference to me ...no more nausea and when lsd is hard to come by these are my second choice ....always remember set and setting .....
 
mused said:
Found the best way is to remove as much of the outer dark husk of the seeds with a sharp knife so that there is a lighter coloured shown underneath
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That's the way to do it. Carve the shit out of them with a knife so they completely change colour.
 
really? you just cut the hulls off with a knife and eliminated the bad side effects? Is the trip similair to classic hallucinogens or something different alltogether. i tried morning glory and i got nothing. a nice placebo buzz. probably didnt do enough though.
 
brettonknight said:
really? you just cut the hulls off with a knife and eliminated the bad side effects? Is the trip similair to classic hallucinogens or something different alltogether. i tried morning glory and i got nothing. a nice placebo buzz. probably didnt do enough though.
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They have the same active ingredient which is LSA.
 
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