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How much experience should one have with Psychedelics before trying Ayahuasca?

Feste said:
All depends on the dose.
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Indeed.

Mushrooms and LSD are both strong psychedelics you'll likely be fine with ayahuasca if you click with the other two; mushrooms being the more penetrating one IMO.

We have a Big&Dandy Ayahuasca thread that you can read up on some doses people have used.

Also the reports at Erowid's Ayahuasca vault for dosing info and good reading material.
 
A better question would be is there really a way to prepare for such an experience? Some people I think would be fine if that was the first thing they did others it wouldnt matter how much theyve done theyd never be prepared. Its just a totally different experience from anything really.

I think if that is where you want to go then theres no reason to be scared just know youre in for something amazing.
 
hendrix62892 said:
very true.
if you can handle the mindfuck from acid you should be fine with Ayahuasca
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Disagree. Ayahuasca has a violently physical component to it, which n turn adds to the trip, in whatever way you accept the physical upset. Iff anything, aya is closer to mushrooms, but (at hghish doses) completely immersive and a lot more spiritual feeling- may be an aesthetic thing though....

That said, the experience is profounder then most other psychedelics I've experienced. YMMV
 
That's one of the things I'm worried about is the purging. One time on mushrooms I got very sick and had to purge and for a good half hour it sent my trip violently spinning in the wrong direction. I had a close friend recommend that I should be experienced with DMT before trying Ayahuasca, would you guys say this is a good idea?
 
CallMeGod. said:
That's one of the things I'm worried about is the purging. One time on mushrooms I got very sick and had to purge and for a good half hour it sent my trip violently spinning in the wrong direction. I had a close friend recommend that I should be experienced with DMT before trying Ayahuasca, would you guys say this is a good idea?
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Smoking DMT would be a good idea; better yet smoke changa (DMT on b. caapi leaves)....but ayahuasca feels quite different to both. Plain aya (only caapi) is quite psychedelic on its own, so add Dmt and kaboom. In truth, ayahuasca and smoked DMT feel very very different; ayahuasca is less mentally vicious, but more physically.

The purging is not great. But it passes, and actually feels very cleansing- though I have never vomited with such intensty as done on ayahuasca. That gets frightening; but- if you know it will happen, its almost desired.

If you have worries about nausea/vomtng/shtting you mght want to try mescaline (from cactii), as the mescaline headspace is generally 'happy', but the physcal component can be rough- at first. Baically, if I take mescaline I know I will vomit, but because the mescalinergic joy and general "lightness" of the experience, it doesn't push things into a negative space.

With most psychedelics one can employ a range of anti-emetics if needed; but with ayahuasca, this is not possble and very dangerous. Once drunk, you are in for the long haul and there is no way out without compromsng your life. Trea cautiously; I'd get a few more mushroom experiences under my belt befoer proceeding onto DMT/aya.

Take care :)
 
I completely agree with Swillow on every thing he wrote. For me the purge is very much a part of the experience.

I drink about a pint of water after taking my ayahuasca to prevent dry heaving. My anxieties, fears, and nausea all build upon each other. I hold the purge as long as I can and than I throw up. I feel as if I am releasing my anxieties and fears with the purge.

After the purge, I feel on top of the world and nothing can cause me negative feelings. It took a while for me to build this ritual to ayahuasca. I never had diarrhea with the purge. Perhaps this is because I use extracted dmt and harmala. Technically that's not ayahuasca but close enough IMO.
 
I agree. If i get nauseous on any psych nowadays i go for the purge, lets the trip start fresh and feels like all the negative energy is gone. I've never done aya but id imagine if dmt lasted longer then purging would allow to complete access to deep, deep bliss
 
Agree with swillow. Mescaline would be a really good plan due to the inherent nausea, if you don't enjoy mescaline because of the nausea I would avoid aya for the moment.
 
If you do have a violent physical reaction how you handle it is critical to the direction of your trip. Ive had some very hard times with physical reactions on numerous substances but I think about it in a fundamentally different way. It doesnt worry me. When I purge I think of energy in my body being cleansed. It is like releasing the negative and letting a positive cycle begin. Life is very cyclical in nature and more often than not to achieve a beautiful renewal we have to endure hardship and suffering. If you can think of this concept while you are feeling this it makes it a lot easier. Nothing that is worth having comes easily. To achieve the state that we desire sometimes it is necessary to endure a little suffering. As long as you can reconcile that it is in fact for a better experience you wont think about it much. Just know that you arent dying and arent going to be seriously damaged. If that were to have happened you would have known immediately.not somewhere down the line.
 
I tried making ayahuasca brew a few times and didnt succeed(as i didnt trip) but i did vomit and man i felt like a million bucks after that.. its like being born or something... absolutely wonderful!
 
Have a good 3 days to do aya, and hope that you are very experienced with psychedelics Aya is a very spiritual trip and can do many different things to you. Like you will most likely purge, and have troubles talking or moving for 6+ hours.

I would read up alot more on aya, and I would suggest smoking dmt or 5-meo-dmt to try the dmt experience first. Also I reccomend trying Syrian rue + mushrooms ;)
 
Ive done countless hours of reading on Aya, and I feel as if I'm prepared pretty well for it. Although the purging worries me a bit, everything I hear and read describes it as cleansing and almost orgasmic so I think I will do alright with that.

I think I may try to get a 1-2 more higher dose LSD trips under my belt, and at least once DMT experience before I attempt to experience Aya.
 
I don't really think LSD is anything like aya, get a few dmt trips under your belt. I just did mushrooms + 5-meo-dmt for NYE, that was an AWESOME experience. If you can handle a the 30 min 5-meo-dmt trip, you could probable handle aya.

I have done as high of 15 hits of LSD in one night, and mixed 2 e pills in there.

Have you watched Natural Born Killers when the Native gives them aya?
 
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