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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread

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This thread should be renamed "MDAI Combos". There really is very little talk about MDAI itself here...

And FFS, people who are trying to turn this into MDMA using arcane combos, why don't you just go eat some fucking MDMA? Much easier, tested and true!
 
Jamshyd said:
This thread should be renamed "MDAI Combos". There really is very little talk about MDAI itself here...

And FFS, people who are trying to turn this into MDMA using arcane combos, why don't you just go eat some fucking MDMA? Much easier, tested and true!
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MDAI on its own just sucks imo, it does give awesome oppertunities to try in combination with other chems.
MDAI in combination with fleph, buphedrone and other chemicals are things i really want to try, and yeah it will be differend then MDMA, so i can still take mdma a while after trying several MDAI combo's.;)

Most ppl here are just in for trying some new interesting combo's instead of trying to replicate MDMA.

But maybe sometimes i still would want to replicate MDMA, because the problem is that street pills usually contain mephedrone or MCPP in my area, id rather go for a mdai combo then!
 
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Xtc <3 said:
Right im off out tonight to an all nighter and seeing as I cant get good md and meph terrifies me im considering using MDAI instead.
Now I was leaning towards MDAI + Amphetamine and redosing with amphetamine throughout the night however I also have methylone on hand.
Would a bomb of say 175mg MDAI followed by some speed an hour later get me sufficiently high?
Then would it be cool to drop a 250mg bomb of methylone once that wears off about 4 hours later?
Will the methylone hit me just as hard as it usually would or will the effects be dampened by the MDAI + amps?
Is this a risky combo?
Some quick replies will be greatly appreciated. Cheers :)
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How did this go?

I'm thinking of combining 100mg MDAI with 150mg methylone because I can't get MDMA at the moment.
I have a feeling the combo will be very, very euphoric and MDMA-like methylone will not only provide the dopamine element but also kick the serotonin levels up another notch.

But I'm not sure if the combo could perhaps cause serotonin syndrome. Reports of MDMA-MBDB combos make me think it won't though.
 
discopupils said:
How did this go?

I'm thinking of combining 100mg MDAI with 150mg methylone because I can't get MDMA at the moment.
I have a feeling the combo will be very, very euphoric and MDMA-like methylone will not only provide the dopamine element but also kick the serotonin levels up another notch.

But I'm not sure if the combo could perhaps cause serotonin syndrome. Reports of MDMA-MBDB combos make me think it won't though.
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Should be safe.
 
I would hazard a guess that redosing with methylone would work and would be safe, however I doubt it will hit as hard as it should do, the MDAI will already have had it's way with your serotonin ^^

Sorry if it's already been mentioned here, will read this entire thread at some point, what are peeps thoughts on flipping with MDAI? I.e. mushrooms + MDAI? It sounds on paper like a good idea to me, I think the lack of stimulation would detract from the great intensity leaving you with a much more mellow, but ultimately very, very euphoric trip?
 
A certain amount of stimulation with mushrooms wouldn't necessaily be a bad thing tho
 
True, I know that there isn't anything wrong with hippyflipping as it is (the converse!) but it just sounds like MDAI would provide a fucking awesome combination :)
 
Mdai + speed = Excellent combo for raving, I was very impressed and will likely be doing it again the next event I go to.
However I also ended up eating 250mg of methylone later on in the night which was a decision I regret.
Didn't get any rush or any other noticable effects from the meth it just made my bpm go through the roof (200+) and make me paranoid about over-exerting myself on the dancefloor.
I wouldn't reccomend using methylone with this combo, too sketchy and no apparent synergy. Wish I just topped up with some more speed.
Good luck though it may be a decent combo if taken together without the amphetamines.
 
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I would hazard a guess that redosing with methylone would work and would be safe, however I doubt it will hit as hard as it should do, the MDAI will already have had it's way with your serotonin ^^

Sorry if it's already been mentioned here, will read this entire thread at some point, what are peeps thoughts on flipping with MDAI? I.e. mushrooms + MDAI? It sounds on paper like a good idea to me, I think the lack of stimulation would detract from the great intensity leaving you with a much more mellow, but ultimately very, very euphoric trip?
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not redosing with methylone but an actual combo, dosing both at the same time. :)

There are a few people on this thread who have good things to say about tripping with MDAI added.
 
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And FFS, people who are trying to turn this into MDMA using arcane combos, why don't you just go eat some fucking MDMA?
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1. Some of us have far better access to grey-market research-chemicals than black-market illegal drugs.
2. It would be nice to find something with an action similar to MDMA/MDA that doesn't inhibit tryptophan-hydroxylase or metabolize to alpha-methyl-dopamine. This might account for why taking MDMA tends to induce the worst hangover evar in me, whereas I always feel fine the day after bk-MDMA (well, it could be quantity monoamines released. . .)
3. It's nice to have all this info in one place.

But sure, maybe another thread could be established/ split from this one.

ebola
 
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not redosing with methylone but an actual combo, dosing both at the same time. :)
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why not redose with mdai when the methylone peak starts fading? methylone becomes more and more like a plain stimulant after dosing and i'm sure mdai could help with that.
 
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why not redose with mdai when the methylone peak starts fading? methylone becomes more and more like a plain stimulant after dosing and i'm sure mdai could help with that.
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Imagine the euphoria of peaking on both at the same time though. There would still be enough dopamine floating around in my brain to produce the dancey effect of good ecstasy as well. Can always re-dose with both again later, as methylone's redose is much more stimulant-orientated whereas I've read that MDAI's redose is very effective. Wouldn't redose more than once though :)
 
i'm not sure if the euphoria could be diminished by too much serotonin for the amount of dopamine floating around, but as mdai lasts longer than methylone anyway it's probably still a good idea.
i hope you report back with the results, i'm definitely interested in the combo.
 
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i'm not sure if the euphoria could be diminished by too much serotonin for the amount of dopamine floating around, but as mdai lasts longer than methylone anyway it's probably still a good idea.
i hope you report back with the results, i'm definitely interested in the combo.
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There's a glowing report on TR about an MDMA and MBDB combo though.
And I did once read that methylone and MBDB felt like two "halves" of MDMA that when combined mimicked the effects of MDMA. I'm judging MDAI is similar to, if not actually better than MBDB. It seems to be more euphoric on its own despite having a very similar method of action. I think there are lots of pointers to a methylone and MDAI combo being indiscernable from MDMA.

And I will report back :)
 
^^ I find MBDB to only be worthwhile when mixed with MDMA. I've never done more than around 200 mg of MBDB, so it may be worthwhile in it's own right at higher doses, but from my experience mixing MBDB with MDMA potentiates the MDMA nicely, and isn't very exciting on its own. Never tried MDAI, so carry on!
 
Over my side of the pond there is next to no mdma unfortunately. All thats out here are some obscure 2C combos, methylone , meph etc .

I would much rather know what I am taking than taking a huge risk and having someone tell me its MDMA when its something completely different. I know the Haupt incident last year illustrated that even RC vendors can get it wrong. But if your dealer is getting wrong everytime selling you some RC combo which He or she dont have any idea themselves what it is "Ugh its Excstacy" sorry doesnt cut it with me.

in any case I am not chasing an MDMA buzz as I said time and again on its own this chem is special in combo this chem is special too
 
Is there a general consensus on duration yet? I've been able to find relatively few trip reports, many of which didn't give terribly concise data regarding duration, timeline etc...

Also, does this affect any other neurotransmitters? I'd really like to see the IC(50)'s for this in regards to 5-HT, NE, and DA... If it affects the latter two at all I'm completely unaware of it, and it doesn't seem to from anecdotal evidence, but I'd be curious if there was some, even if minimal, peripheral action on other monamines.
 
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Unlike MDMA, it's hard to tell when MDAI wears off. It's gradual, like cannabinoids.
 
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