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What could someone be using these particular drugs for?

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As you all no doubt read, another celebrity drug-related death was in the news recently. I've never seen a list of prescription drugs quite this spectacular, and I am wondering what the possible effects of combining any or all of these might be.

I think there might be people here at BlueLight who can look at this list and know what it truly represents to a RECREATIONAL drug user, which is something that online legitimate sources of information about each substance of course will not tell you.

So: What is a recreational drug user (almost certainly anorexic or bulimic by the way) doing while in possession of all the following at once?

Topamax
Methylprednisolone
Fluoxetine
Klonopin
Carbamazepine (the user was NOT in fact diabetic)
Ativan
Vicoprofen
Propranolol
Biaxin
Hydrocodone
 
Well, I have no idea who this celebrity is but I doubt that was a regime of drugs used for recreational purposes cos few of them are even remotely recreational. Mostly that just looks like meds used for various physical and mental health problems.

I've been prescribed many of them myself but you sure as hell wouldn't abuse any of them other than maybe Klonopin and Hydrocodone, in my opinion. It's a mighty long ol' script (I'm guessing this celeb is American 8):D;)) but seems like if it's a drug-related death it's down to prescribing so many meds when a fraction of those would be enough to deal with just about any problem this person had. Unless it's just a standard suicide OD as this person seems to have had a fair few issues.

Pure speculation, of course, but nobody is gonna use that lot for kicks, in my opinion.
 
Well the Ativan and the Klonopin would be for benzo fun, and the Vicoprofen and hydrocodone would be for opoid fun. That's about it from that list as for recreation. Another is an antibiotic, so perhaps the person was fighting something off at the time? Rest of that stuff, well some of it could assist a seizure off-label or something, but ya seems rather bizzare.
 
Topamax does I guess help enable people with eating disorders. I had an anorexic friend who used it for bi polar. It made her eating disorder muuuuuuuch worse. It has some nasty side effects that the dr prescribed her klonopin for the ativan could be for the same reason. Not sure here but perhaps the diabetic medication was to get her blood sugars in check since she is depriving herself of nutrition. The hydrocodone I would say said person is getting high on. The rest I have no clue. The only reason I know anything about this is a close friend of mine is anorexic and she got down to 90lbs. Topamax was a big thing that enabled it. If this person is your friend you might want to have a serious talk with them. Good luck. It is very hard to get through to people with eating disorders.
 
I hope this helps explain a bit. This post is copied from the thread about Britt. Murphy in DitM, post #22, thanks Seep.

Regarding the news report in #13: since it doesn't say which scripts were not for her, we assume she was prescribed (not all at once) any combination of:

1) Topiramate
2) Carbamazepine
3) Methylprednisone
4) Clarithromycin
5) Fluoxetine
6) Hydrocodone/Ibuprofen
7) Hydrocodone/________
8) Lorazepam
9) Clonazepam
10) Propranolol

1,2,5,8 and 9 can all apply to mood/anxiety disorders. 1,2,3,6,7 and 10 can be given for migraine. 1,2 and 9 if there's seizure issues. For neuropathies, 1,2,5 and 10.

6, 7, 8 and 9 have recreational dimensions. 1 and 5 can suppress appetite. 3's an odd fit if there's a hx of diabetes. 1 and 2 can augment one another's CNS depression. 5 increases 10's antihypertensive effect.

Someone chugging Vicoprofen and barely eating would maybe have upper GI pain. Hydrocodone's sufficient for SOB. If you've exhausted your supply of Vicoprofen, and you start downing hydro/APAP, with the beta-blocker and the SSRI and the benzos and the anticonvulsants, you have hypoventillation + hypotension + clearance issues (liver and kidney) + bradycardia.
 
is this the female actress that starred in Uptown Girls, and that movie with Ashton Kutcher? she was also the voice of the cousin in King of The hill oh yeah her name is Brittnay Murphey, she died of cardiac arrest and was obviously a bit too skinny, I assumed she died from partying with cocaine and amphetamines too much the night before, but with this list of drugs she may have been doing that and using the benzos and opiates as a speedball effect.
but combining benzo's and Opiates = bliss for a high. and some drugs can increase effects of opiates and benzos when taken with them, I am not sure if any of those other drugs do that as I am not familiar with all of they're possible modes of action but know all of the drugs you mentioned.
 
my girlfriend made me watch uptown girls the day she died, and I must say before the anorexia and i assume she wasn't a huge addict at the time, but damn she was sexy as hell. I'm almost 21 years old, and I have a picture from when I was 17. (when I started severe opiate use and benzo abuse daily never stopping until 6 months ago)

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^ right as I started using drugs, very clean looking no circles underneath my eyes..


and this is recent after 6 months clean of severe abuse but taking prescriptions.

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^
Not only do I have a deviated septum from snorting oxys and I used to even snort endless hydros and percs with all the filler, and adderall on a daily basis for 3+ years, my nose now has a redmark that ever goes away on the upper side, it bends down a little bit due to having not much cartilidge and everyday I will always have dark circles, sometimes even worse than that.

Drug abuse takes a serious toll on your body... while I love my benzo's, my subutex and my adderall I take daily prescribed, i wish I never started and wonder how I would lookright now without all the drug abuse... I still get girls chasing after me, but back then it was EVERY girl chased after me....now I look like a destroyed drug addict who is hanging on for dear life (even though I really am clean from the bad stuff) the effects it did to my face will never change. I used to be a model, and Im sure with make-up I still could model as I have the body for it. I am signed to atlantic records and I am a musician, if you don't recognize me from my face I am not giving out my name for safety purposes but all i can say is, it was the signed at 16 rockstar status gold album huge crowd syndrome that dove me into drugs, before rehab I finished my second cd (which went gold in europe) and I seriously thought I was going to die of an overdose before I saw any response to the album, I thought I'd go out like kurt cobain A rock star dead before he should have been and be remembered for all the great music I created, and at that time I was so fucked up in the head that I actually WANTED THAT. The second to last track is a song of me explaining if I don't take benzos I would get electric shocks and convulse violently along with everything else, it explains how I wish I could stop but Ican't and in the end of the song it says "this will be the last song I ever wrote, and you'll ever hear from me, to you" and ends with "its a sad life that i've lived, but I learned so much to give, to you, through my music... goodbye"

I really thought I was going to die an addict... but I am stable in out patient taking my meds with some minor relapses and working on my third album.. so it didn't turn out the way it could have, but then again i did die in rehab for a few seconds due to a benzo seizure so it very well could have happened.... I am just giving you a celebrity twist on all of this. the fame, money, media pressure, and fans really get to you, and while I always want to be artistic and unique, I feel endless pressure that the only way I can be artist and unique now is through a huge amount of drugs.. (my first two albums I was drugged up worse than all three rehabs said they've ever seen someone dosage wise)... it was a weird stage of my life. I'm working on the third album and finally after 5 months of not being able to even create a riff, or piano part, drum part ANYTHING I've finally been able to be stable and I've been 4 songs for the new CD including the single that Atlantic is already radio-editing for me... so all in all its tough being a celebrity, and then again its tough just being a person with a regular job outside of the fame.... its all so complex.

This makes me really sad.... but atleast I didn't become bulimic or anorexic like Brit. haha! I weight lift as much as possible to keep my spirits up.
 
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I'm guessing that they are using at least a few of them recreationally, particularly the hydrocodone and possibly the ativan (lorazepam) and klonopin (clonazepam) (although it's not at all uncommon for people - even drug users - to use benzos as prescribed, because it's not a particularly recreational class of drugs on it's own, although people with moderate to severe anxiety do consider it's effects to be recreational). Fluoxetine is prozac, an antidepressant, the others are all a bit of a head-scratcher for me, although the beta-blocker could be involved in the death, however i know very little about beta blockers, and I can't be bothered to do any significant search to find out more about it. The Biaxin is definitely not recreational, Carbamazepine is a little confusing to me, I don't know much about it, but it's an anticonvulsant, which means she could be using it to medicate seizures, especially since there was also Topamax involved, another anticonvulsant, and neither have any recreational value whatsoever.

The drugs that are most likely to be involved in the death are:
•Propranolol (beta blocker, and I actually did end up doing a search, and there was a medical case closely matching this one, 27-year-old anorexic female, overdosed on Propranolol)
•Hydrocodone/Vicoprofen (they are both hydrocodone, although vicoprofen contains ibuprofen, and hydrocodone is a fairly common substance to OD on, especially since she was taking two different brands, which suggests either abuse or overprescription)
•Klonopin/Clonazepam (in combination with the hydrocodone and the Ativan, this could have caused severe respiratory depression, resulting in death. mixing CNS depressants is another common OD case)
•Ativan/Lorazepam (same as klonopin, only milder and shorter acting)
 
Hi, do not bump old threads please. Read the BDD guidelines in my signature. Thread closed.
 
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