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oral morphine, why so much dislike?

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acid_staind

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i recently came upon some instant release morphine sulfate, and of course as i do with every new drug i try i read up on it as much as i can, to much i think, cause now i know the basics for iv but i'm trying real hard not to go there.

anyway in my quest for info on this drug i found alot of people don't like it due to it's low absorption rate, and the difference in the high compared to oxy or hydro. i've never done oxy but morphine does lack the stimulation that hydrocodone gives. but besides that imo it blows hyrdrocodone away. if you can get past the nausea, which pot helps relieve greatly, the high is just so great. i've never truly nodded until i did morphine. all physically and metal pain washes away and i just wanna nod and smoke cigarettes.

so my question to the people that don't like it i guess is just, why? lol. if you do the conversion right you'll get to where you want to be. me for example, i need 40mgs of hydrocodone, (4 10 mg pills, more$$), most opiate dosage table list hydrocodone 20mgs equal to 35-40mgs of oral morphine. so i took 60mgs of morphine, (4 15mgs pills, less$$), and holy shit did that put me on my ass. i was so sedated my girlfriend started getting scared. i couldn't walk, really talk coherently and was just pretty much in my own world of bliss.

it's just to bad that this was just a temporary thing, which is probably a good thing for me.:p
 
wow never knew that. Is that for real? Why would drug companies manufacture the drug so it would work less efficient for it's intendid ROA?
 
Squigz said:
wow never knew that. Is that for real? Why would drug companies manufacture the drug so it would work less efficient for it's intendid ROA?
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yeah thats for real.. check out the bio availability thread.. im not making this up.. thats why people with high opiate tolerances only iv morphine to get 100% of the drug.
 
oral bioavailabilty is low, but in my personal experiences morphine is considerably cheaper then other painpills. at the end of a year run i was eating 70 15mg IR's at once to get smashed..funny thing was it was still more cost effective then oxy. i liked oral morphine more then oxy myself, it's a good drug you just gotta dose it right
 
Oral BA is ~30 and it has slower onset compared to hydro or oxy, but the high is great for me too.It lasts quite a long time and the high is heavier and noddier than most opiods. Kills all anxiety and most pain for me. Good stuff for chilling.
 
dont got time rite now but i'll provide some links later. oral ba ranges from 30-50% absorption depending on many factors such as age, health, other drugs that are being taken, ect.

sorry man but to repeat that morphine has an absorption rate of only 10% when you obviously don't know is just misinformation.

anyone out there reading this, morphine is a strong fucking opiate and easy to od on. lts a different type of high, take it for what it is. like i said before do the conversion right and you'll be feeling good.

but i get it now. if you have a huge opiate tolerance the massive amount of oral morphine needed puts you at od risk so maybe thats why.

but IR morphine sulfate is iv-able and you can achieve 95-100% absorption and is supposedly just like shooting heroin.

i'm not asking for any sources just a simple yes or no will do. if you live in the united states do you need a prescription to buy fresh needle's?
 
well in a recent thread where people were arguing about morphine vs oxy (i donno if you were around then) they were saying that oral morphine is equal to snorting it and the BA is 10%... so im sorry if i heard misinformation and passed it on thinking it was the truth. no need to call me out on it.

Edit: ill even link you to the thread give me a min to find it.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=466060

my b they are sayins 33% also.. i donno where i heard 10% i know its 10% for insuffflation so maybe thats what i was thinking.. again i apologize for "spreading misinformation".

But i swear i heard somewhere that it was 10% but i've got nothin to back it up its just here say i guess.. but i've heard it somewhere.

Anyway ~33% is still a low BA
 
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Morphine is still a great drug. Even though it sucks eating it,when you do eat enough you are FLOORED for awhile! I have to(and this is just me) eat at least 160mg to get where I want to go.But when I get there I`m staying for awhile. A lot of times I`ll wake up high the next day.Always awesome!
 
ive been taking 9 15mg ERs a once and dont get high off them at all .. but it keeps me from going into withdrawals for 24 hours... i usually like shooting 4 30mg oxycodones at once ..the morphine just confuses me idk how much i should take to feel nice and dont want to over do it ..ive been crushing them and put them in boiling hot water and drinking it ...i dont think it is possible to iv 15mg ERs right?.... and any suggestions on how many i should take to get high?
 
For me plugging the liquid seems to be better than oral administration..not sure about the BA when plugged tho, seems a lot higher.
 
sluggoodies said:
For me plugging the liquid seems to be better than oral administration..not sure about the BA when plugged tho, seems a lot higher.
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Ive thought about that..don't really like that fact that i would be sticking and squirting liquid in my ass...and its not that i think its gay but i just think it would be a little strange ,but if it really would get me higher then im down to try it... i have not tried it because i heard both that it works better and that it don't work any better then orally... not sure what to believe
 
Well for me its night and day. Use slightly smaller dosages to begin with as the BA may be higher. Make sure you dont have too much poo in the old bowels also as im sure that would absorb some of the liquid and diminish the returns. The gay factor will be quickly forgotten when you realize the bennifits.
 
The few times i did oral morphine pills (the 30mg MS Contin purple/dark redish pills with an M in a box) I really enjoyed the high. The high was great although it didn't last all that long. I would say it was right up there with the high of oxycodone. keep in mind though, that I don't think I had too much of a tolerance when I was taking these particular MS contins. I did, however, get a really good high off them. I think like i said, the main issue here is tolerance. If a user has a fairly high tolerance, oral morphine tablets aren't really gonna do a whole heck of a lot for that person. Good luck and happy BL-ing! ;)
 
It has to do with it's poor bioavailability, and its legal status. Since it's illegal, at least for recreational use, prices are exorbitant and it's not easy to obtain. Imagine if it was available otc at the corner store at a reasonable price, people wouldn't have a problem with waste due to its poor oral BA.
 
I've swallowed, snorted and plugged Morphine. I can say with great confidence that if you want to go places on small amounts of morphine: Plug it. The bioavailability is higher and the duration is longer.

However, (for me, anyway), the histamine release is unbearable. Itch, itch, itch all day long. I tried a lot of anti-histamines and found that OTC Zyrtec was by far the best.

But, the real dislike came in the lack of euphoria compared to oxycontin. Sure, I could nod hard on morphine but I didn't get all the good sensations that I would get from oxycodone.
 
Im one of those that don't do morphine oral to.
When i get my hands on an opiate like morphine i want it to give me its 100%.
Much comes from that i am an IV heroin addict so i want that rush and feeling.

On the other side a shot of Morphine IV is so very painfull cause of the histamine release.. it really hurts like nothing else.
So when i can i mix morphine with either oxycodone or heroin in a solution of maybe 40% of Morphine and 60% oxy/heroin and that way it doesn't hurt when the plunger hits the bottom.

Morphine alone is not comparable to heroin, the rush is different and morphine is neither comparable to oxycodone - same there the rush is different and the overall high is
also different, oxy is more of a speedy high while morphine is heavy like heroin.

As for plugging the morphine, i have never tried it but i can imagine it would be the best way to take it if you don't want to IV.
Cause it doesn't need to go through the stages of your liver. And in your bowels it gets picked up much faster.
Oral morphine gotta go through the liver etc.
 
despite it having a lack of a "rush" when taken orally, i really do enjoy it due to the fact that it seems to hang on my receptors for a very long time and keep me feeling ok all day without a re dose.
 
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