[MEGA] >>>Strain Discussion v2.0<<<

[DoseYouAll]

What a great spot for me to pick up and BUMP this.

Purple purple purple don't even get me started Solipsis

In northern california you would think that we have a super discriminating bunch of potsmokers. But the truth is that 95% of the market goes on looks and name. Purple weed still sells all day long and gets you cash for pounds at the clubs. Meanwhile I got the best weed I ever grew in my life including pure kush, romulan, chemdog and it's not purple and I am losing my house now because the market is so fucked.

The best buds around right now are Neville's Haze. . . It takes 12 to 15 WEEKS of flowering to grow these out right. And nobody at all this side of amsterdam has heard of Neville's Haze but among growers it is known to be the most trippy and powerful smoke available commercially in seed form. You would think a sativa is all in the head but this one is like a full body energizing massage. Very physical but totally UP and very visual + psychedelic.

I am doing my best to get this weed to the masses because it could literally transform the weed scene when it comes to kush and purple weed which have absolutely no character or trippyness. Those are 100% medicine for dying people and insomniacs. You want to get fucked up, you get some haze.

In short the Haze was created by surfers near santa cruz in the late 60s and early 70s from the best colombian, mexican, thai and indian weed. At that time of $40 ounces it would sell for up to 500 per ounce !! High Times magazine was totally stalking the Haze Brothers for a while because their pot was and still is legendary and blows away everything else!

Pictures of plants rrom the same breeder, "Mr. Nice seeds" one of the most well known and consistent. The ONLY source for reliable and true haze from the most original stock. You guys on the east coast call this the church and piff. I call it medicine for my brain.

 

[clamjuice]

Indeed it is true that people will buy into the colour purple. A friend of mine has kush and purple kush. He says they are pretty much the same, but sells the purple one for more because he can and people ask for it over the other.

As for the area im in the market seems to be saturated with kush and people are just plain getting ripped off with the prices they pay. Dealers and morons who dont know anything hear "kush" and they jack the price up. Im not saying its not good stuff, but i cant say its worth paying 50% more for. Kind of frustrates me, cause all the customers want the kush so there isnt anything else going around.

If whoever is supplying this area took the time to grow some other good strains with care people would see there are a ton of amazing strains out there above and beyond 'kush'.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

It's a similar phenomenon to brand loyalty. People can be very dumb when it comes to marketing ploys.

Would you guys say that strains coming in 1st/2nd place in the High times cannabis cup are likely to be good?These cannabis cups seem quite unscientific. Also, how can the large, reputable seed banks quote the percentage of THC & CBD to such a high degree of accuracy? Do they actually send samples off for GC/MS analysis? Or is it BS? Is the % e.g. 18.9% the % by mass or just the % of total cannabinoids?

 

[riddla420]

Wow ,I am really old school ,as I have not heard of most of these newer strains most of you are referring to. I have not smoked anything for 4 years now ,but I was a Guerrilla farmer for many years !!! I was amongst the earliest buyers of Metal Halide Lights ,and a student of Mel Frank and Ed Rosenthal. My best year was the summer of 1990 on Long Island. I managed to Harvest and Sell over 40 lbs. of Early Pearl .The summer of 1992 would have been better ,if not for tragedy and Thievery !!!! Half of my crop was Mowed by a property owner , and another 2/3 was Robbed. it would have been a 80- 100 Lb crop !!!! I was lucky enough to have a connection to the seed bank in Amsterdam.I do remember the first crops of the Haze that I ever smoked ,around 1995 ,I believe.

 

[riddla420]

I know that the modern Krypto strains of today are much ,more potent than what I used to smoke. I do ,however remeber some amazing ,exotic strains from the 80's that were Mind numbing. We used to get the most Amazing Thai weed for a few years in New York. We called it Chocolate Tasty ! I always Doubted that it could actually be real authentic Thai ,until one day ,I was sifting through a 1/4 lb ,looking for the choicest buds to keep ,when I picked out something that Blew my mind , at first ,I thought it was a bud ,but then I realized it was a crumpled , Green stained ,compressed soft pack of Cigarettes .Upon unfolding and looking closely ,they were called "Liberation Smokes" and it said on the bottom "Product of the Peoples republic of Kampuchia aka(Cambodia) !!!!! I realized that it was true far east exotic bud we had been getting the whole time !!!!!!! and it was $100 a Quarter oz. even back in 84' !!!!!!!

 

[squidhead]

Yeah, as a toker for 40 yrs, I was always saying that the smoke we bought in the early/mid 70s was the best. Michoacan, Oaxacan, Santa Marta Red Bud, Thai Sticks & VERY rarely, Panama Red.
I thought that these new strains was a bunch of hype. Man, was I WRONG [& I'll be the 1st to admit it]!! Some of the weed grown nowadays only takes me 2 good bong hits & I'm blasted for hours!!
Excellent job on the new types of smoke. Some of my favorites is that Super Silver Haze, the White Widow x Blueberry [WW x BB] & the BR_1947 [Blue Rhino x AK-47]...from a good pal who writes for Skunk Magazine -- Rolan Terroy [or REv].
Took awhile getting used to the prices, but I'm fortunate to know 3 different growers who keep me comped...even though I've got about a QP of different flavors that should take me into my 60s easily!!

 

[Roose]

^^ Super Silver Haze is some delicious stuff.

I'm young so I was never able to smoke some of the old school strains but a question to all you old stoners, do you feel like the quality of weed has gone up or down since the 70s?

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Are the high times C. Cup winners usually superior to most types of weed? Does this competition mean anything?

 

[riddla420]

For me ,honestly ,it is way ,way too strong now.I am not sure if it is the potency ,or my advanced age ,but I cannot tolerate Bud any longer .It makes me super schitzo- paranoid ,the last couple times I even took like 2 tokes . I may have ruined my brain for cannibus with my Opiate addiction. I wish I had never quit ,because ,for me ,it was all downhill from there!!!!

 

[riddla420]

This may bring back memories to some old timers.In 1981 In Boca Raton Florida I can remember a few times when Drug Boats ,full of Cannibus from Columbia ,were chased by the DEA ,and started dumping Bales of weed in the ocean right off the coast .Well ,word got out ,and every stoner in boca ran down to the beaches to get their free weed !!! it was amazing Kids ,adults ,women ,even Old people were in the water ,and picking the weed off the beach !!!!!! people used hats ,shirts ,frisbee's ,anything to hold their free ,salty ,super low grade pot !!!! This happened a few times while I lived in Florida ,and after I moved to long Island in late 81' My best friend Actually found a complete 40 kilo Bail !!! floating. He managed to hide it in the Sea grape bushes ,and get it home without getting busted. It was selling for about $15 an OZ in Fl. so My friend Brought a huge bag to New york ,and we sold it for $40 an Oz up there !!!! He broke the Bail apart ,then spread it out on window screens and rinsed as much salt off it as he could. then sun dried it . It smelled terrible ,and tasted pretty bad ,but it did get you high !!! He stayed with me all summer and we lived off the bud !!!!! selling it and giving lots away and trading it too !!!! He actually Brought 5 lbs with him on the plane ,in his carry on bag with just a few T-shirts and magazines covering it !!!!! .Ahh ,the good ole' days before 9/11 .You could bring almost anything on a plane !!!

 

[squidhead]

^^ Super Silver Haze is some delicious stuff.

I'm young so I was never able to smoke some of the old school strains but a question to all you old stoners, do you feel like the quality of weed has gone up or down since the 70s?

By all means, the weed nowadays is much more potent than the weed of the 70s. I was always a die-hard old-schooler & when I met these growers who comp me, their weed is 2 bong-hits & I'm blasted for hours.
I would definitely have to say that the 'new weed' is more potent, lasts longer & there are much more varieties. Mucho props to all you growers who've taken weed to much higher levels!!

 

[Jibult]

Are the high times C. Cup winners usually superior to most types of weed? Does this competition mean anything?

They're normally at the top of the ladder, yeah... but when it comes to the Cup winners it normally boils down to how well the bud was grown and cured, not the particular strain. At least that's what I think ends up making the most difference in that contest. They've all got access to the same seed banks and suppliers so it's not like someone's over there sitting on a super potent kind of pot (it's possible, but I doubt it). It seems to me like it'd be more of a competition of growing techniques' end results than anything else over in Amsterdam.

So yeah, it means the winners are "gourmet growers" in a sense.

 

[squidhead]

By all means, the weed nowadays is much more potent than the weed of the 70s. I was always a die-hard old-schooler & when I met these growers who comp me, their weed is 2 bong-hits & I'm blasted for hours.
I would definitely have to say that the 'new weed' is more potent, lasts longer & there are much more varieties. Mucho props to all you growers who've taken weed to much higher levels!!

I'd like to clarify a few things....We DID get some killer smoke in the 70s [Michoacan, Colombian, Jamaican, Thai-Sticks, even Acapulco Gold]....but I believe you 'gourmet growers' have taken weed to a new level.
The % of THC in the doobage nowadays has GOT to be higher, as I know it takes me much less weed to get me SO blasted for a lot longer than I used to get.

 

[thujone]

imho, the reason weed nowadays is better is because of meticulous cross-breeding that's been taking place for generations since the money-minded marketeers took over the business from the lazy hippie types that were providing it before weed really got popular.

nice avatar btw, i havent seen a freak bros comic in ages lol

 

[squidhead]

imho, the reason weed nowadays is better is because of meticulous cross-breeding that's been taking place for generations since the money-minded marketeers took over the business from the lazy hippie types that were providing it before weed really got popular.

nice avatar btw, i havent seen a freak bros comic in ages lol

Thank you & basically I believe you captured the entire scene in that answer. I agree & it's a blessing I get comped, as the prices are unreal!!
I never even heard of "an 1/8th" or selling by the "gram"?? Unreal shit !!

 

[Soaring]

I wanted to get the opinions of a few of you guys on what strains I should try out for this upcoming harvest.

I've stuck to the same few strains that I know how to grow quite well, however I am getting tired of these, and from a year of selling clones everyone has these strains.

GDPK, Maui Wowi, Romulan, Sugar Kush, Sensi Star(Hate it), Dragon, Ice, ATF, and Blue Goo.

So feel free to toss out some ideas, and if you have any experience with the plants please share the knowledge :D

Though other (less) purple strains I've come across were quite good so I'm not generalizing to say I don't like it. Blue Widow and Blue Cheese are pretty nice - okay more than nice!!.

Blue Widow is an absolutly amazing strain. Probably my favourite bud that I have ever smoked. Blue Cheese on the other hand is just rank, imo.

 

[kayenta]

^^ Super Silver Haze is some delicious stuff.

I had the pleasure of sampling this the other day - absolutely gorgeous. I seriously can't overstate how good this weed is, probably my all time favourite.

 

[HighonLife]

Red Headed Slut?

So i have been on winter vacation for the last week n a half

i was visiting family up north

while i was on vacation i was asked to help my cousin trim his small personal crop

he had some White Widow x Jack Herer (Well known strains with apparent qualities of each)

and something he said he was told was red headed slut from the person he got the clone from.

However, he even told me that he has tried and tried to find info about any strain of Marijuana known as Red headed slut and said he couldnt find anything on it. Upon a quick google search i was bombarded by drink recipes and also did not find anything

The Slut is better then the WWxJH believe it or not and i am really intigued by this bud/Strain

So my question is does anyone here have any knowledge, experiences or what not with this strain? I have never heard of it. He has never heard of it. So i dunno what the deal is but i definatly like it. Im not so much loking for a strain report merely comfirmation on the possibility of such a strain existing. thanks everyone and sorry if this isnt a really appropriate thread.

 

[Vader]

People make up stupid names for the same old genetics all the time, best not to get too carried away with them.

 

[Roose]

Names mean nothing unless the bud comes from dispensaries