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Bluelight and the Aussie Internet Filter – Will it affect us?

I'm becoming optimistic this internet filter will not actually pass. After raising the issue with a bunch of people of varying ages, some even really conservative older people. They all think it's a terrible move to censor the internet to the extent the government plans to.

Remember that, 'Australia Card' they tried to bring out, that would contain all our details and health records among other things if I recall correctly. Which was never implemented due to the majority of Australians hating the idea and not wanting our country turning into Big Brother.

I remain hopeful most Aussies will hate this idea too, I just think most aren't even aware of it yet.
 
MrIbis said:
filenet: it was all for fun... not about to murder anyone lol... dont have the means to do it - as much as i'd - and alot of other people might like to.
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damn it Mribis.....I've just finished reloading some 30-06 cartridges for ya, packed with 47.5 grains of the finest IMR 4350 powder, powering custom made 165grain hollow points - all good for a muzzle velocity of 2650fps! and now you are saying you were kiddin' 8)
 
You think you're being funny, but if anything were to happen to the senator and we had his home address posted on our forum for six hours, I don't think the AFP would find it very funny.

Next person who wants to talk about violence or do something stupid like post a politician's home address on Bluelight can have a warning.
 
puckboy said:
I'm becoming optimistic this internet filter will not actually pass. After raising the issue with a bunch of people of varying ages, some even really conservative older people. They all think it's a terrible move to censor the internet to the extent the government plans to.

Remember that, 'Australia Card' they tried to bring out, that would contain all our details and health records among other things if I recall correctly. Which was never implemented due to the majority of Australians hating the idea and not wanting our country turning into Big Brother.

I remain hopeful most Aussies will hate this idea too, I just think most aren't even aware of it yet.
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Most aussies are totally against internet filtering but it doesn't mean that people won't totally forget about it in 12 months time at the next election when they're worried about interest rates and a few dozen desperate refugees rolling ashore on leaky boats 8)

Krudd is going to use this as a wedge at the next election against the coalition as he knows that Abbotts minority supporter base will be totally for the filter yet the majority of Aussies will be against it. Its pretty much how howard was able to win the last couple of elections on the back of tampa and "aussie values"
 
satricion said:
A DOS attack on political websites is a fucking stupid way of going about addressing this issue.
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Why? I've mentioned it on a few other forums and everyone says the same thing. Although I proposed a DDOS on the actual filter if it is implemented. But why is it 'fucking stupid'?
 
right, just so Im clear here hoptis - a direct assassination threat is ok (in jest or otherwise) but posting a home address is not (even when its freely available to anyone who can use google)?
 
As I mentioned in an earlier post, VOTING COUNTS.

You can read about the Greens comments on the latest news regarding the filter here. In short, the trial showed nothing not already known and we will still have a system which will not achieve its goal of reducing the risk to children online.

Thanks Juvenile, for your post of the article explaining why the anti-censorship campaign seems to be failing. This argument does need to be whittled down to votes - what will be the consequences for the Rudd government if they implement this filter? How will those opposed (us) react? Will it change our vote? Will that have any influence on the Rudd government's second term... or will they sail through the election regardless of what we do..... these are the question we need to consider.

More importantly, we need to have conversations with people outside of the online networks that already agree with us. What do your parents think of it? Do they even know about it? Would it change their vote? etc.
 
I have been talking with people about the filter in real life. Most of my friends are pretty apathetic when it comes to politics so iv been rabeling on about how Labour hates children and wants childen porn, terrorism, freedom and beer tax.

Seems quite effective. Im going to use that kinda template in everything I have to discuss in future.
 
^ You made me laugh

Was talking to a couple of friends the other day and one of them bought up the whole R18+ rating for games thing and how strongly they both felt about it.

I chirped in with a "what about internet filtering" and neither of them seemed to care. They were both against it but didn't think it would affect their life and thus showed real concern whether it goes ahead or not. I was really taken back by this, but I guess it shows the mentality of most people out there. If they aren't going to lose something they use why should it concern them. Just taking the government's line of, "I don't look up child porn thus a filter will not affect me".

Both of them are professionals working in IT/Engineering jobs so I just thought they knew better. They had both also written letters to pollies about the R18+ for games debate.
 
^ The only thing that they might be worried about is losing some speed. Neither of them use drugs so mentioning BL or Pill reports is out of the question.

Maybe I could tell them any site that reviews a game that is RC could be blocked...

Does anyone think they might block torrent websites?
 
The problem we have in Aus is compulsary voting (which in itself is undemocratic).

Due to the fact they FORCE all those apathetic people out there to vote, it ensures the main 2 partys stay in power.

If we lived in a true democracy it would be your right to chose to vote, and then only those with an interest in politics would turn out, making foir a much fairer result
 
You make a good point but I would assume the apathetic people would be disproportionately younger and thus we would all be run by the ideas of those 50+.

I have only just recently at 25yo started to pay attention to politics. For years I wasn't signed up and believed that my uninformed vote wasn't worth it. Even when my partner signed me up so she had some company walking down to the local school to vote I only placed a donkey. But this year things changed and I look forward to placing my vote with whoever I think is will lead us the best.


EDIT: I implore everyone out there to take a note of politics and vote accordingly. I'm not going to take your, "They're all as bad as each other, why vote for any of them" bullshit! :D
 
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I think you would be surprised how many middle aged blue collar people out there just dont give a shite and just vote for whoever has had the most media coverage instaed of actually looking at policies.

I too used to donkey vote (on the basis that compulory voting is undemocratic) but think i will vote properly in the next election.
 
Im 23 and I dont vote. The government sends me a letter every year telling me to enroll.

I would vote if I wasn't forced too, but I don't want to enroll now only to be fined for it when I miss a vote in future.
 
I think being 'forced' to vote is completely democratic. They don't put a gun to your head. They ensure that, unless you are cool with the fine, you turn up to a polling station. Then, what you do there is not their concern. You can vote informally if you want to. At least it means you turn up and make a *choice* to vote, either informally or formally.

static_mind - you are a smart guy. I'm surprise you have rejected the political system completely: your vote is just as valuable as the next one. It's fairly easy to avoid the fine in the future - even if you just vote informally. The more BLers in Australia who vote, the more chance we have of making a difference. If you enrol to vote for 2010 federal election for example, that's one more vote not going Labor's way. If there are 1000's and 1000's of people just like you who are completely against the net filter and vote against Rudd on it, maybe that threat (or action) will actually matter to them. There is likely to be a minor party that better represents your views (there are many, in senate at least!).

Getting people to turn up is more than half the battle in the US. I'm so glad we don't have to focus on that battle as well as the others when campaigning. People should at least try - to at least *consider* who they might want to represent them in politics. It's part of being a citizen, IMHO :)

PS. Merry christmas folks... and stay safe :)
 
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