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Bluelight and the Aussie Internet Filter – Will it affect us?

Oh.. okay lol... bahahaaha...

it seems ive just made an absolute fool of myself.

i just got so riled up reading that.

still, conroy is a fucking idiot.
 
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Anger management is not a dirty couple of words. ;)

Rather than worry how it will inconvenience us, in terms of VPN or proxies or whatever, have a think about how this will affect BL a year, or two years after it goes into effect. Existing members might find workarounds to get here, determined new users might also get here, but randoms stumbling in from Google? Forget about it.

After a couple of years of this, without new users, where do you think that will leave the two Aus forums?
 
^Was that a dig at me? rofl..

Seriously though, this guy needs to face dive into a bear trap... How dumb can you be to actually desire this idea? like what is he gaining.

I figured i'd leave my post there coz i actually had a chuckle when i read it back to myself - and i spent so much time furiously writing it, before i saw the article wasn't for real.
 
Anyone know if this ever amounted to anything?

Didgeridie1.jpg

Apparently there was a DOS attack on K Rudds website and it went down for an hour or so. Don't know if they have given up though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)
 
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Yeah I dont think it achieved much, it happened back in september and there wasnt any media coverage that I recall.
 
You should perhaps sticky a separate post linking to this

http://www.dbcde.gov.au/all_funding_programs_and_support/cybersafety_plan/transparency_measures

Get people to start making submissions because this is the LAST chance to have our say, speak up before the christian lobby speaks for us.

http://www.dbcde.gov.au/all_funding_programs_and_support/cybersafety_plan/transparency_measures

Just thought I would repost this^
Not sure who is allowed to make a submission or how seriously members of the public will be taken but it might be worth writing to them. It closes in Feb
 
Iv donated $40 now to EFA and im going to give them $20 every week. We should all help out on bluelight what we can (and keep track of how much members of BL give).

I figure EFA is probably where the money should be going anyway.

How good is the governments SPAM filter? Maybe I should put them on every mailing list on the internet just in case a few of them need Viagra or something. No matter how good their filter is, porn and spam will ALWAYS get through.
 
Here is a link to a political party which opposes censorship: http://www.sexparty.org.au/

I'm not selling membership nor advocating all of their policies but they are far more liberated than the wowsers that we have in power and opposition at the moment.
 
I'm not selling membership nor advocating all of their policies but they are far more....

That's a tricky statement to make in your first post ;)

Thanks for the link djep and welcome to Bluelight.
 
Not sure if its been posted yet but there is a facebook page for a protest happening on the 31st of Jan.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/STOP-...479439?ref=search&sid=1534880367.624684033..1

Besides that supporting EFA, Getup and the greens are the best ways of opposing the filter. I know some people may be a little hesitant of supporting the greens but if they can take away a few extra sets from Labour at the federal election next year they will hold the balance of power and therefore stopping the filter from being introduced not to mention stop draconian anti drug laws from being passed. Groups like the sex party or pirate party are excellent but realistically they don't have much chance of picking up any seats in the upper or lower house.
 
Interesting article on ABC:


Filter opponents: change tactics or fail
Josh Mehlman

Communications Minister Senator Stephen Conroy's announcement last week that the Government would legislate a mandatory service provider-level internet filter has galvanised opposition.

The opponents are a loose coalition of many individuals and a range organisations with vaguely common interests, including IT industry and anti-censorship groups, progressive lobby GetUp!, the Pirate Party and the Australian Sex Party.

These groups have been - and continue to be - ineffective because, unlike those who favour the filter, they don't understand what it takes to achieve political change.

Since the Rudd Government came into power with an internet filtering policy, opponents have tried to sway the Government and the public against the filter using the two standard tech-geek argument techniques: logic and sarcasm.

Network engineer Mark Newton has consistently and thoroughly stripped the Government's arguments down to their logical flaws, for example in this recent article on New Matilda.

Jonathan Crossfield's 'open letter to Senator Stephen Conroy from a concerned parent' is a devastating deployment of finely crafted sarcasm.

However, politicians are completely unaffected by sarcasm, having developed immunity through countless hours of exposure during Question Time.

And some would argue they have a similar resistance to logic, or at least that they view rhetorical argument as a pliable tool to be used on either side of any proposition, regardless of truth or merit.

These arguments have also failed to convince the public because the anti-filter groups have allowed their opponents to set the terms and language of the debate.

Senator Conroy has consistently framed the filter in terms of protecting children from online nasties such as child pornography. The mainstream media has almost without exception taken this line uncritically when reporting on the filter.

Politicians don't get logic or sarcasm; they only understand two very different things: money and votes.
Not just any votes, either. Even if GetUp! achieved its goal of 120,000 petition signatures or hundreds of thousands rallied in the streets, the Government might still not be convinced.

To shift position, a politician needs to see significant blocs of people in specific, relevant electorates who would otherwise have voted for his or her party but now intend to vote for the other guys.

This is where the anti-filter movement is failing.

According to Crikey's Pollytics blog, introducing the internet filter would have almost no electoral consequences for the Government, save the possibility of losing inner-city Sydney and Melbourne seats to the Greens.

But not introducing the filter would upset one of the best organised and most influential political groups in the country.

Liberal MP Alex Hawke, a campaigner for Christian values who opposes the filter, believes the legislation is the result of a backroom deal between Senator Conroy and the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL).

The ACL is a seriously hefty lobby group, and the Government owes it favours. According to its website, the ACL counts among its victories "[turning] the tide on issues such as euthanasia" and "[alerting] parliamentarians on industry plans to introduce R-rated hand held computer games".

The ACL has also "positively influenced the debate on homosexual adoption in the ACT and Tasmania" and lobbied local councils on issues such as "the placement of brothels [and] offensive advertising".

Within Parliament, the ACL tells us there are "large numbers of Christian politicians at all levels of Government who value your prayers and support".

You could count on one hand the number of politicians whose knowledge of technology extends further than using a BlackBerry to Tweet during Question Time.

As a result, it is not enough to demonstrate that a large number of people, even the majority of people, think the filter is a bad idea. Defeating the filter means convincing Labor that it will have electoral consequences worse than pissing off the Christian lobby.

Filter opponents appear to believe Twitter, online petitions, protests and letter-writing campaigns will be enough.

However, 10,000 people blacking out their avatars, retweeting blog posts and furiously agreeing with each other on Twitter merely adds to the cacophony of the echo chamber; it has no effect in the real world.

The closed circle of the Australian Twitterati and their friends in the technology and political media might well believe everyone is against the internet filter since everyone they know is talking about it.

But in the mainstream media, the filter was a lower-order news item on the day it was announced and has since almost disappeared.

This level of self-obsession reached the point where filter opponents spent a day debating whether #nocleanfeed or #openinternet was a more useful hashtag, as if nomenclature were the only thing holding the movement back.

Meanwhile Senator Conroy, the ACL's Jim Wallace and almost every mainstream media outlet were implying they were child pornographers.

I strongly believe the anti-filter lobby can succeed, but it must change tactics. Unless it stops preaching to the choir and starts getting into the serious business of lobbying, it is doomed to failure.


ABC
 
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