Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

[ruffneck81]

i want to figure out a way to get back on the sub without going through hell, thats what it is their for...but my first experience was the worst time of my life...i do not want to do that again. may there is something that you know of.

 

[Oxymorphone]

Well it is a rought couplek days transitioning from a hih opiate dose to suboxone, I think maybe you needed to be at the full 32mg to start. The hell isn't that bad, it's bad going into withdrawal for 24 hours or so before starting it but after that i gets easier. I threw up the first couple days I was on suboxone but after that I was stable and clear and it has been great. It sounds like you had way too much oxy in your system and went into precipated withdrawal, next time stop 48 hours before starting suboxone. They even recommend 72.

I don't know how much 300-400mg of oxy is comparred to IVing bags of good heroin so it's a little difficult to relate (can someone tell me an equivalent of how many bags that would be?)

 

[Oxymorphone]

Basically Oxy , anything above 4mg or even just 4mg is enough to block the effects of other opiates one might intend to use on the same day. At least that is how it works for me ...if you intend to use any other opiates just make sure that you do not exceed the 2mg mark(sometimes even 3-4mg is enough to spoil some other opiate I might decide to use on top of it )... anyways, after 24 hours even if I'd done ,say, 8mg I can already use H and feel it just fine.

Alright, I might wait until early this morning around 6AM or tomorrow when I know I'll be around 2mg. Right now I should have the equivalent of 2-4mg sublingual in my system since it has been roughly 25-30 hours since my last main dose meaning now half is in my system. I should be good later tonight if I wait more and I probably am ow bt I can't be sure.

 

[firesilverlullaby]

Let us know how it works out. From reading a bunch of threads i have come to the conclusion that it just affects everyone differently

 

[Oxymorphone]

I'm just waiting here, it's hard to keep myself occupied while I wait for the right time to take these percs. I wish i could just sleep.

 

[Oxymorphone]

alright just ate 25mg, I'm filtering and IVing the other 10 (and I drank/ate the leftover sludge from the first filtration so no waste). Don't feel anything as of eating the first two 10 mins ago, the other 3 5min, now I'm prepping the other 10 to IV.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Unfortunately I have these damn 5/325s so I'll have to do a CWE, I just hope I don't lost much oxy in the process and whatever I do I can make up for by IVing. That will be tricky though, there will be a lot of water left over after the CWE and not close to concentrated enough to fill a 1CC syringe. Can I heat the solution after until most of the water evaporates?

Or should I just skip the CWE and dissolve all the pills and filter the shit out of it, I think that will take care of the apap just as well and probably be easier. I have 35mg oxy total. I just IVed .5mg bupe about half an hour ago, would waiting until tonight be enough time?

My main confusion is when the right time to dose up is. I know bupe has a half life of 30 hours or so and it will block other opiates while it is bound to the receptors. Now if I wait until I go into withdrawal I will have very few bound leaving open space for any opiate to come in and fill the space- I just think this might not be effective for getting a high since it will be getting rid of withdrawal first before going to the next level. Is there a balance with having a small amount of bupe in your system so you're not in withdrawal while still being able to get close to a full high from other opiates? What re people's experience with this. even though I take 1-3mg per day I still feel like I'm on a lot then again I think maybe what I'm worried about applies to people on doses more like 16-32mg.

Sorry I have a lot of questions, lol.

Without CWEing and micron filtering, you're going to want to use those pills orally. That's just my 2 cents. Wait until the micron filters come in IMO. or just use orally (which might be for the best - a longer duration).

It's just fine to take some oxy on top of 1 to 3mg of bupe per day. It's just not the best thing "for your recovery" - if you plan to stay on bupe for the long haul then have fun. 35mg isn't too much.

 

[Oxymorphone]

Without CWEing and micron filtering, you're going to want to use those pills orally. That's just my 2 cents. Wait until the micron filters come in IMO. or just use orally (which might be for the best - a longer duration).

It's just fine to take some oxy on top of 1 to 3mg of bupe per day. It's just not the best thing "for your recovery" - if you plan to stay on bupe for the long haul then have fun. 35mg isn't too much.

Yeah I did 25mg oral 10 IV. I feel a little but not much. Maybe the oral dose will kick in, I don't know or maybe I have too much bupe in my system and it was wasted. Whatever I 'found' the percs anyway I would just like to feel high again.

As far as recovery it's not the best thing but I will never go back to being an actively using addict, I just want to feel that euphoria once in a while which is why I've been trying to go down on bupe. I feel a little relaxed now, I'm going to hope it works or I'll be dissapointed.

I called up the only dealer I know who used to rip me off and sell crappy stufff back in the day and he was only doing $200+ deals and I want coke but not that much unless it was superb. I got stuff from him once that was like 10% and burned like hell then I got some ok stuff so I'm not sure, it's hit or miss and he said I would be able to sample it first. sorry for getting slightly OT, I wish drugs were legal so I could just buy what I wanted when I wanted and know the quality.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Yeah I did 25mg oral 10 IV. I feel a little but not much. Maybe the oral dose will kick in, I don't know or maybe I have too much bupe in my system and it was wasted. Whatever I 'found' the percs anyway I would just like to feel high again.

As far as recovery it's not the best thing but I will never go back to being an actively using addict, I just want to feel that euphoria once in a while which is why I've been trying to go down on bupe. I feel a little relaxed now, I'm going to hope it works or I'll be dissapointed.

I called up the only dealer I know who used to rip me off and sell crappy stufff back in the day and he was only doing $200+ deals and I want coke but not that much unless it was superb. I got stuff from him once that was like 10% and burned like hell then I got some ok stuff so I'm not sure, it's hit or miss and he said I would be able to sample it first. sorry for getting slightly OT, I wish drugs were legal so I could just buy what I wanted when I wanted and know the quality.

What other drugs have you tried? I don't really like cocaine/crack. There's other drugs to use other than opiates. You already have a benzo tolerance though am I right? If so then most benzos aren't going to be recreational for you.

Do you like psychedelics?

 

[Oxymorphone]

What other drugs have you tried? I don't really like cocaine/crack. There's other drugs to use other than opiates. You already have a benzo tolerance though am I right? If so then most benzos aren't going to be recreational for you.

Do you like psychedelics?

OI I have a benzo tolerance and it sucks, especially since it interferes with ambien which I had a lot of and hear you can trip hard on, I took 110mg in an hour and felt next to nothing. I got a nice buzz from the oxy and it is still going, I had what I call an "opiate nap" for an hour or so and just woke up, I still feel relaxed and good. No noddding but it feels good and I like that passing out feeling where you enjoy your eyes closed in a dreamworld if you're sleeping or not.

I fo like psychedelics I just have no source. I'm thinking about ordering some stuff to extract DMT. I would prefer LSD and some of the other synthetic chemicals though, I just wouldn't know where to begin searching, getting coke is hard enough for me, and you're right I don't like it. It's just something to do that I can get high on and importantly IV. I'm looking into mephedrone too, any other advice or suggestions? Things that won't show up on drug tests or have a short (4 day or less detection period).

 

[Captain.Heroin]

OI I have a benzo tolerance and it sucks, especially since it interferes with ambien which I had a lot of and hear you can trip hard on, I took 110mg in an hour and felt next to nothing. I got a nice buzz from the oxy and it is still going, I had what I call an "opiate nap" for an hour or so and just woke up, I still feel relaxed and good. No noddding but it feels good and I like that passing out feeling where you enjoy your eyes closed in a dreamworld if you're sleeping or not.

I fo like psychedelics I just have no source. I'm thinking about ordering some stuff to extract DMT. I would prefer LSD and some of the other synthetic chemicals though, I just wouldn't know where to begin searching, getting coke is hard enough for me, and you're right I don't like it. It's just something to do that I can get high on and importantly IV. I'm looking into mephedrone too, any other advice or suggestions? Things that won't show up on drug tests or have a short (4 day or less detection period).

I wouldn't suggest mephedrone. If you thought opiates were addictive...then you should read some of the posts on this forum.

Have you tried the 2c-_ series? Do you like salvia?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

*clap clap clap*

I have micron filtered Suboxone! No more preparing hit by hit! I'm going to post pictures and an instructional story to go along. It's just so cool how it works.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Shooting Suboxone

How to micron filter Suboxone (or any other drug) for IV

You can use as much water and as many Suboxone tablets as you'd like, but 24mg/15mL = 1.6mg/mL. This solution will yield 0.16mg for every 10 units.

What you will need (everything other than the Suboxone tablets can be procured from gpzservices.com - though I got my 18G needle tips and rubbing alcohol pads elsewhere):

• Whatman 0.2 micron filter
• Bacteriostatic water vial, 30 mL
• 20 CC luer lock syringe
• 18G needle tip
• 3 Suboxone tablets
• media bottle
• rubbing alcohol pad

What you do:

1. After washing your hands thoroughly, boil the media bottle for at least 10 minutes, and sterilize the rubber top of the bacteriostatic water vial.
2. Attach 18G needle (any gauge will do, the larger the quicker) and draw back 15 CC into the syringe. Pull the bacteriostatic water vial off of the needle. You will have to do this as the plunger of the syringe will be pressurized to return back to 0 CC if you don't hold onto it as you're pulling the vial off of the needle.
3. Pull the syringe plunger out and back load the Suboxone tablets. Replace the plunger, and push the air out of the syringe. Once the air is out of the syringe, you can replace the needle tip with the micron filter.
4. Shake the syringe to dissolve the tablets. Align the micron filter over the mouth of the media bottle, and push the plunger down. The micron filter will fit securely into the mouth of the media bottle (if you use the same equipment I do), but be careful of it getting stuck (have pliers to remove the filter if it gets stuck).
5. Re-cap the media bottle with your sterile solution, and put away the used micron filter, used syringe, and needle tip. Enjoy!

 

[dopiate]

It's so nice not to have to prep each shot isn't it! I feel a lot safer also.

And sorry, what do you mean by media bottle? If you have a fridge you can put the solution in, it wouldn't hurt to refrigerate.

 

[fistful_of_needles]

man , speak of Christmas presents just bumped into a full box of these pink 3mg Roche Broazepams quite by chance, I suspect somebody in here was using them at some point and just forgot them in this drawer ...anyways , ended up taking 12mgs along with my Bupre dose and I feel FAN-TAS-TIC , I've noticed these are way less sedating than Alprazolam ,actually I even feel pretty active on these things ... not much experience with benzos so can anybody draw a comparison between these and others and also is 12 mg Bromazepam alright with 2-4mg Subutex? I've done that and I feel great and I have no benzo tolerance,just take the odd 15 mg midazolam here and there and some Alprazolam (0.5-1mg) ...having found these by chance just made my day , 60 3mg pinkies forgotten in some drawer

 

[fistful_of_needles]

*clap clap clap*

I have micron filtered Suboxone! No more preparing hit by hit! I'm going to post pictures and an instructional story to go along. It's just so cool how it works.

man , you people must have enviable veins ,this last time I quit H and went to take blood samples you wouldn't imagine the nightmare it was for those nurses to get it done ,I even offered to do it for them ffs ...years and years of jacking up speedball left me virtually with no veins in my arms, even after 7 months ,and I thought I would recover ,but nothing , as dry as they were on my last fix months ago ...I hear it's the coke/crack in the speedball that ruins your veins,is this true ? I suspect the citric I used to cook H also played its role in this ...Oh well , great thing in a way since even at my most desperate times I never even considered using my groin or neck(very common practice in here) for such purposes ,and curiously enough,perhaps due to the fact that I've always had shitty veins I do not have that needle fixation I see a lot around here ...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

It's so nice not to have to prep each shot isn't it! I feel a lot safer also.

And sorry, what do you mean by media bottle? If you have a fridge you can put the solution in, it wouldn't hurt to refrigerate.

Yeah I leave my bottle in the fridge. "Media bottle" - a 250ml container I got from gpzservices.com - very nice, a 0.2 micron filter fits snugly inside the media bottle's opening. Seeing as I'm only using 15mL of 250mL at a time (6% of the total volume) as of now and am unlikely to dilute it much further, it's kind of inconveniently huge, but it works well and I like it for what I need it to do.

What do you put your solution into once it's made? A vial? Do you have a pic?

I can't wait to roll out to the exchange - I have 800+ needles ready to go with me too.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

man , speak of Christmas presents just bumped into a full box of these pink 3mg Roche Broazepams quite by chance, I suspect somebody in here was using them at some point and just forgot them in this drawer ...anyways , ended up taking 12mgs along with my Bupre dose and I feel FAN-TAS-TIC , I've noticed these are way less sedating than Alprazolam ,actually I even feel pretty active on these things ... not much experience with benzos so can anybody draw a comparison between these and others and also is 12 mg Bromazepam alright with 2-4mg Subutex? I've done that and I feel great and I have no benzo tolerance,just take the odd 15 mg midazolam here and there and some Alprazolam (0.5-1mg) ...having found these by chance just made my day , 60 3mg pinkies forgotten in some drawer

Nice find man. Bromazepam is a pretty straight forward benzo. I have yet to try it but it's along the lines of one of the "moderate" benzos - not too heavy/intense but also not weak - there are very weak benzos. Bromazepam is often compared to hydroxyzine (what I use for sleep and I love it - just as euphoric as a benzo).

You should be fine using a few with your Subutex for sure. I would prefer the 15mg midazolam by far %)

 

[Mystery Brew]

this isnt important but. anyone else get a faint taste of dope when dosing suboxone? I like it. or im just placeboing my self. which I like also

 

[Captain.Heroin]

man , you people must have enviable veins ,this last time I quit H and went to take blood samples you wouldn't imagine the nightmare it was for those nurses to get it done ,I even offered to do it for them ffs ...years and years of jacking up speedball left me virtually with no veins in my arms, even after 7 months ,and I thought I would recover ,but nothing , as dry as they were on my last fix months ago ...I hear it's the coke/crack in the speedball that ruins your veins,is this true ? I suspect the citric I used to cook H also played its role in this ...Oh well , great thing in a way since even at my most desperate times I never even considered using my groin or neck(very common practice in here) for such purposes ,and curiously enough,perhaps due to the fact that I've always had shitty veins I do not have that needle fixation I see a lot around here ...

hahha yeah Shambles says some men and women go around checking out members of the opposite sex (or whatever gender they dig) whereas he goes around checking out people's veins. Then he used a smiley but I forget which.

I have really good veins because I work out regularly and because I do cardio whenever I can and am feeling in a good mood (which has been in the past and recently). I also typically only use 31G needles, sometimes 30G but preferably not.

this isnt important but. anyone else get a faint taste of dope when dosing suboxone? I like it. or im just placeboing my self. which I like also

I GET IT TOO. I thought I was just psyching myself out, but no I totally do get it. I don't even use the sublingual ROA - I think most people here get that about me by this point...so that made me wonder about why I still get the taste of it. Really faint, nothing like good heroin, but so faint it definitely does make you think about it. *thinking pose*