Misc Phentermine or Ritalin with GHB or GBL

[maggiegbl]

I was discussing this on another thread. At the moment I am coming off Subutex (near 4 years daily use), and I simply cannot do it without some medical intevention of my own. The meds off the doctor - Valium, Lopermide and Zopiclone provide a marginal help.

But what i need is a lift from the deppression which I am not used to and cannot handle. The doctor can offer no help,

So's to cut a long story short, I found Phentermine gave total releif to the deppression I was feeling (within 20 mins of taking the pills -not like waiting weeks for SSRI's to work).

Granted, I did take 120mg when I think the usual prescribed dose is about 20-40mg.

I get a bit shaky from the Phent and decide to dip into the GHB. - What a feeling. I felt totally happy, total confidence, full of energy - absoluty gone - I was dancing around the room with my tunes on for 4 hours - this was like 10am in the morn.

My partner walked in and couldnt even tell I was hammered. I just said a was excersising to dance. I could totally act normal too, just felt very intoxicated - pupils were dilated like f*ck thogh.

I have had similar effects with Ritalin and GBL before. Its just as good but more shortlived.

Anyone else tried this?

And also, as I am withdrawing from Subutex, will binging on Phent/ghb effect that process or will the withdrawal happen in the background while I carry on enjoying myself?

I do plan to be drug free by New year by the way, Im not looking for any more addictions.!

 

[drewbocop]

Well, you can HOPE to be drug free by the new year, but just remember, you were an addict. You ARE an addict. You very well may be just trading one addiction for another. Your best bet is to get real help, through doctor or therapy, to learn how to adjust to life without any drugs or mind altering substances altogether. Just because you don't appear to be hammered doesn't mean you aren't.

If you aren't using any other opiates or opioids, you aren't prolonging the withdrawal... as far as I know. You can carry this on as long as you want, but I fear once you're out of whatever you're using and you're done withdrawaling off the opioids, you're going to still feel the need to put something in your body. It isn't easy going from tons of shit chemicals to nothing. Trust me, I came off Suboxone over a month ago, have used a couple times since then, and am still struggling to stay completely clean. It is far from easy.

This was a rushed post, but good luck to you.

 

[Eight0Eight]

Yuck.

I couldn't even imagine taking speed while in sub WD.

I mean, the up would be nice - but the comedown will be soul destroying.

I would be happy that you got valium and zopiclone.

 

[Eagleman]

^Eight0Eight said it best. How can you take stimulants while WDing? It makes everything sooo much worse....and how can you cure those negative feelings? With heroin. That was the vicious cycle for me when I was trying to detox. Good luck, and use that zopiclone and diazepam to your advantage.

 

[Jdaddy24]

Yuck.

I couldn't even imagine taking speed while in sub WD.

I mean, the up would be nice - but the comedown will be soul destroying.

I would be happy that you got valium and zopiclone.

I can totally attest to this I got the bright idea that I would take adderall for my sub withdrawals and I would be able to go to work and live life while going through it. WRONG I bought a shitload of generic 30mg addy's from a friend and waited 24 hours after my last dose of sub. I came home from work craving sub and feeling like complete shit. I hear people say it takes 3 days for sub withdrawal to begin but for me it starts like 12 hours after my last dose! But I do have a very very fats metabolism so that may be the culprit. Anyways on with the story. I came home from work sat down at my computer and took 1 30mg xr. An hour later I felt greart :D The depression was lifted the pains in my body just disappeared and I thought to myself, this will be a piece of cake! @YAY:D 2 hours later the pains came back! With extreme and sickining revenge! I fell into a depression so deep I thought of suicide, and I have never been suicidal! My soul was destroyed! My heart was racing and my bp rose from my normal 110/70 to 140/90!!! I had extreme panic and paranoia it was most definately one of the worst experiences I have ever had!

DO NOT USE ADDERRALL OR PHENT OR ANYTHING TO GET OFF SUB!! THE DEPRESSION AFTER COMEDOWN WILL DESTROY YOUR WILL TO LIVE!! U HAVE BEEN WARNED!! Now with that out of the way i did get off sub with a gentle stimulant called modalert! A.K.A PROVAGIL. I loved that stuff it is the most gentle yet satisfying stim I have ever used. It does carry euphoria IDC what any1 says it made me happy as a motherfucking bearded clam!LOL. However there was no harsh nasty depressive comedown like other stims and even though I loved the way it made me feel I never craved it or felt the need to re-dose like I did with addy and the other garbage. I never got addicted to it and i took it every day for 3 months and just stopped cold turkey and never looked back! Oh ya, and I got off sub with very very minimal WD. LOVE IT

I am not advising ne1 to use provagil to get off sub I am just simply sharing my experience. Every1 reacts different to medications so play it safe. I am however advising that u should not use harsh stims to get off sub as remember opioid WD already raises BP in most people. CHEERS

 

[edarrin]

^ I can attest to seriously nasty depression after the stims are done. I've been off Op's for 60 days today. Long story short..........Had PAWS and had to work........doc Rx'd methylphenidate....worked great, lifted that anhedonic amotivational state wonderfully.....until I started to use higher and higher doses....mixed in with some blow here and there. Tried to stop after Friday night. It's Sunday today and I was contemplating some pretty strange shit.


Anyway,it works for PAWS relief if you can handle it as an addict....which is risky to say the least. Can't imagine using it in acute w/d.My .02

 

[lightn!ng]

I advise no one to take phentermine. Look at what it did in combination with Fenfluramine (Fen-phen), valve disease and and even worse than that, pulmonary hypertension. Granted the main culprit here was likely the fenfluramine, but I would still not touch phentermine with a 10 foot pole. If you're going to continue taking phentermine at least look up what PH is please, if you havent already - it may sound benign, but as far as diseases go it's one of the worst. Someone very close to me , a very young woman, keeps flagging postive for PH on echocardiograms and is expected to have it, and its just a heartbreaking situation. She was a stimulant abuser.

But that's just my biased opinion.