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what is a good starting phenazepam dosage?
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theotherside
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Try 1mg to start, and if you don't have a milligram scale, don't try it at all. It can turn into a 2 day sleep session before you know what hit you.
monstanoodle
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An average phenazepam dosage is 0.5 mg 2-3 times daily. The maximum daily dosage must not exceed 10 mg.
And I'd definitely +1 on theotherside's remark about getting a mg scale.
There's been plenty of people just dipping their finger into the bag and waking up 4 days later with their house a tip, with injuries, in hospital or arrested.
And I'd definitely +1 on theotherside's remark about getting a mg scale.
There's been plenty of people just dipping their finger into the bag and waking up 4 days later with their house a tip, with injuries, in hospital or arrested.
i will probably buy a mg scale in the future not jus for phenazepam but for other compounds as well. but ive had alot of experience with fentanyl and that beast is measured in micro grams. i also plan to make a mixture of some sort to either make liquid or pills. i have a theroy about making the capsules. say 100mg phenazepam to 99,900mg of say powdered sugar would equal 100,000mg total of the mixture, resulting in a 1000mg capsule containing containing 1mg of phenazepam.(I think thats right i did the math last night and wrote it all down but dont have it in front of me at the momment.) I am still researching other methods. but deffinitly want capsules not liquid. as i stated ive done alot of fentanyl and im perscribed 2 2mg xanax bars and 1.5mg klonapin a day and have takin all in large doses. im not saying this gives me a false sence of security,beleive me ive read some horror stories about phenazepam ODs.
If anyone out there has any "recipies" for making capsules that information would be great.
If anyone out there has any "recipies" for making capsules that information would be great.
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
I would advise not starting with 4mg. Take 1mg and see how it is. If you're fine maybe add 0.5-1mg. It's not good to black out on benzos, so don't make your first dose too high.
thanx Bob, i trust your word you seem to know your shit on here. have you ever heard of making capsules, or pills i guess if you had a press, in this type of manner? originally i thought maybe if they had different densities it may be inaccurate as some may go all the way to the bottom or top. but i figur if i grind down the phenazepam to a fine powder like say powder sugar and mix the combo vigorusly and multiple times the ratio would stay consistant. and its not like im workin with kilos of material itd be just over an ounce of material.
I dont know for sure though still lookin into it.any info you would have or be able to direct me to would be great as i said you seem to know your shit.
thanks all
I dont know for sure though still lookin into it.any info you would have or be able to direct me to would be great as i said you seem to know your shit.
thanks all
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how would you vaporize phenazepam. im guessing just place a very small amount on a piece of tinfoil and "chase the dragon" so to speak???????????
Bob Loblaw
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Thanks man 
Personally I think making capsules/presses is far more trouble than its worth. The easiest way is to dissolve the Phen in either ethanol or Propylene glycol. These both evaporate rather quickly, so you could dissolve it, drop a dose on a plate or something, then use a hair dryer or something and scrape the piles into a cap. (Might want to include filler powder so the evaporated solute is in a larger pile)
Personally I think making capsules/presses is far more trouble than its worth. The easiest way is to dissolve the Phen in either ethanol or Propylene glycol. These both evaporate rather quickly, so you could dissolve it, drop a dose on a plate or something, then use a hair dryer or something and scrape the piles into a cap. (Might want to include filler powder so the evaporated solute is in a larger pile)
^^^^^yea like i said ya know your shit this sounds alot better.what would the conversions be for that then? say if i was trying to get 1mg/1ml ratio. would it be as simple as say 100mgs phenazepam to 100ml of ethanol? what would you suggets as a filler? do you think the filler would need to be dissoved with the phenazepam in the ethanol? or could you just evaporate the ethanol phenazepam solution and then add a filler ( as long as you were making it one capsule at a time?)
Bob Loblaw
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Yeah 100mg in 100mL will work as long as Phenazepam will dissolve 1mg in 1mL of ethanol; I haven't tried. If not, add 100mL more and use 2mL. You could put each drop in a little filler pile. That might be easiest.
once again thank you Bob! that sounds like a great way to do it!
kind of a stupid question but where would one buy ethanol? obviously it be easy to order on the net but i was curious about what kind of stores sell ethanol???
ethanol is the same as alcohol so would a type of booze work in place of the ethanol????
i am guessing you would need to use some vey high proof alcohol, like everclear or bacardi 151?????? what would you suggest is the best to use ? also what would the percentage% of alcohol need to be? again im guessing the higher the better?
so sorry for all the questions, there is just so many different people saying so many different things online, and like i said you seem like a very reliable source for proper information.
thanking you again for your past and future information. I appreciate it all very much!!!!
kind of a stupid question but where would one buy ethanol? obviously it be easy to order on the net but i was curious about what kind of stores sell ethanol???
ethanol is the same as alcohol so would a type of booze work in place of the ethanol????
i am guessing you would need to use some vey high proof alcohol, like everclear or bacardi 151?????? what would you suggest is the best to use ? also what would the percentage% of alcohol need to be? again im guessing the higher the better?
so sorry for all the questions, there is just so many different people saying so many different things online, and like i said you seem like a very reliable source for proper information.
thanking you again for your past and future information. I appreciate it all very much!!!!
CloudyHazeD
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I just used 99% isopropyl alcohol (lab grade).
Took about 10 minutes of stirring and a slight amount of heat. For heat, I used a coffee maker hot plate.
200mL of IPA and 500mg phenazepam = 2.5mg/mL
Just took my first one mL dose. I hope to be quite relaxed soon.........
Took about 10 minutes of stirring and a slight amount of heat. For heat, I used a coffee maker hot plate.
200mL of IPA and 500mg phenazepam = 2.5mg/mL
Just took my first one mL dose. I hope to be quite relaxed soon.........
Waste_
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CloudyHazeD
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Wow.... I must say, the long half life is nothing to mess with
Talk about a cloudy fucking daze.
Talk about a cloudy fucking daze.
mbrooksbsc
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I took some last night, and man, I'm still feeling dopey today, no drive to do anything, sleepy and I'm not walking straight either! This is come good stuff, have to measure out doses from here on in!
brokenbrain
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Other people in BL, well EADD think that phenazapam is Satan pretty much. Yet the simple fact is if you got 1g powdered xanax and just started sticking little bits here and there in your mouth you would INDEED fuck everything up.
The first point is to make it measurable, so I put mine into 1 litre propylene glycol, costs nearly 3x the price of isopropanol, but its infinitely more safe, virtually non-toxic, especially if you are dosing like 2mg for breakfast, 2mg for dinner, 2mg for supper and 2mg for sleep. Not the best idea, but I was doing it with a 3 day gap between doses and to gauge the length.
I didn't have a problem with this dosing, but since it appears that no one knows the long distance record it seems to hold then dosing like I did is stupid as fuck daily for any length of time....I'd say if I did then 1g would be enough to get me into a situation I could get out of only by going on a reducing dose of another 1g........noticeably I did buy another 1g exactly in case it drew me in deep. I don't find it has. Much better dose 1mg as needed and wait about 15mins to kick in.
Now of course we should not be mixing with opiates and/or alcohol, prob not even MJ! Well during the 4 weeks of testing I mixed in various quantities with all 4. I won't talk of them except to say that going to a works christmas dinner and supping 5 shots gin just prior, then hitting up 2mg phen in the toilet, before taking my seat led to serious time dilation and no doubt people thinking I was weird as fuck. I also fucked up FAR more severely on 2 other later occasions...with maybe 5-7 units alcohol and 2mg phen.
It is not Satan if you mix it into a carrier fluid, and once you have seen what it is capable of doing to yourself in relatively small doses then it is possible to stand back and say "I will not take this or any of the things I have taken the past month for a week and see what happens".....yeah right, I hit the GBL up right next monring....that was a damn sight more to do with the alcohol and heroin though.
My real problem is going to come when I can no longer get GBL as it for me was a restraining, yet social drug...nothing else fits the bill and I am a chronic introvert with severe depression when I am clean, and I KNOW clean......I didn't know drink really until 18, I'd say that living 15-18 suicidal showed me how shit sober life was/could be.
On with the phen testing.
The first point is to make it measurable, so I put mine into 1 litre propylene glycol, costs nearly 3x the price of isopropanol, but its infinitely more safe, virtually non-toxic, especially if you are dosing like 2mg for breakfast, 2mg for dinner, 2mg for supper and 2mg for sleep. Not the best idea, but I was doing it with a 3 day gap between doses and to gauge the length.
I didn't have a problem with this dosing, but since it appears that no one knows the long distance record it seems to hold then dosing like I did is stupid as fuck daily for any length of time....I'd say if I did then 1g would be enough to get me into a situation I could get out of only by going on a reducing dose of another 1g........noticeably I did buy another 1g exactly in case it drew me in deep. I don't find it has. Much better dose 1mg as needed and wait about 15mins to kick in.
Now of course we should not be mixing with opiates and/or alcohol, prob not even MJ! Well during the 4 weeks of testing I mixed in various quantities with all 4. I won't talk of them except to say that going to a works christmas dinner and supping 5 shots gin just prior, then hitting up 2mg phen in the toilet, before taking my seat led to serious time dilation and no doubt people thinking I was weird as fuck. I also fucked up FAR more severely on 2 other later occasions...with maybe 5-7 units alcohol and 2mg phen.
It is not Satan if you mix it into a carrier fluid, and once you have seen what it is capable of doing to yourself in relatively small doses then it is possible to stand back and say "I will not take this or any of the things I have taken the past month for a week and see what happens".....yeah right, I hit the GBL up right next monring....that was a damn sight more to do with the alcohol and heroin though.
My real problem is going to come when I can no longer get GBL as it for me was a restraining, yet social drug...nothing else fits the bill and I am a chronic introvert with severe depression when I am clean, and I KNOW clean......I didn't know drink really until 18, I'd say that living 15-18 suicidal showed me how shit sober life was/could be.
On with the phen testing.
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Q-Trax
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Ok before all the head headed scale police on this great site start giving me shit i have some usful info for people that will end up trying this substance even if they dont have the right equipment.
I do not condone this one bit but here is what i found that was very useful in me not ending up in a 2 day speep.
Get a paperclip and make one end straight for dipping. Score the paperclip at the 2 or 3 ml park for the end of the straight part . Wet the paper clip lightly and dip no more then to mark you mand on it , be sure all sides are coated upto the notch you put in the paper clip. Tap off excess powder and use whats on there as a dose.
I started off taking 1 dose like this and nothing happend st all so 2 hours later a moved up to taking 2 doses like this and still no effect.
Few hours later i was up to 5 dips and i think a minimum dose for this substance.
SO My guesss with this is that dose is around 5 dips per 0.5mg to 1mg.
I know the only way to go with these drugs with super small dose is correct scales but there are bound to people taking no notice of this advise so i at least wanted to make a safer alternative then eyballing doses.
HOPE THIS IS HELPFULL TO SOME AND HOPEFULLY STOPS THIS TYPE OF FUCKUP THAT MAY HAPPEN.
Stay safe bluelighters
I do not condone this one bit but here is what i found that was very useful in me not ending up in a 2 day speep.
Get a paperclip and make one end straight for dipping. Score the paperclip at the 2 or 3 ml park for the end of the straight part . Wet the paper clip lightly and dip no more then to mark you mand on it , be sure all sides are coated upto the notch you put in the paper clip. Tap off excess powder and use whats on there as a dose.
I started off taking 1 dose like this and nothing happend st all so 2 hours later a moved up to taking 2 doses like this and still no effect.
Few hours later i was up to 5 dips and i think a minimum dose for this substance.
SO My guesss with this is that dose is around 5 dips per 0.5mg to 1mg.
I know the only way to go with these drugs with super small dose is correct scales but there are bound to people taking no notice of this advise so i at least wanted to make a safer alternative then eyballing doses.
HOPE THIS IS HELPFULL TO SOME AND HOPEFULLY STOPS THIS TYPE OF FUCKUP THAT MAY HAPPEN.
Stay safe bluelighters
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brokenbrain
Bluelighter
You don't need scales, just prop gly and a vodka bottle to store it all in and some oral syringes to measure out doses, maybe some eppendorf tubes to store your doses in.
If you know that you have 1g and you have 1l of pg then mixing them together = 1mg/ml.Put in the fridge and find your own preference.
Don't take more than 2mg at once and leave 4 hours or more between doses.
The real problem with this drug is not its strength which I would equate to lorazepam, although totally different feeling....its that it last a long time. And no one will tell me how long. I've been give n a telling off over in EADD for doing 2mg every 4 hours a few times a week.I'm sure that if you did something like 4mg every 4 hours for a week straight then you would have REAL memory issues.
Basically its not a great benzo, but its relatively easy to get. If I could get 1g clonazepam I would rather have that as over here in the uk its only prescribed for epilepsy, yet in the us people fucking love it.
If you know that you have 1g and you have 1l of pg then mixing them together = 1mg/ml.Put in the fridge and find your own preference.
Don't take more than 2mg at once and leave 4 hours or more between doses.
The real problem with this drug is not its strength which I would equate to lorazepam, although totally different feeling....its that it last a long time. And no one will tell me how long. I've been give n a telling off over in EADD for doing 2mg every 4 hours a few times a week.I'm sure that if you did something like 4mg every 4 hours for a week straight then you would have REAL memory issues.
Basically its not a great benzo, but its relatively easy to get. If I could get 1g clonazepam I would rather have that as over here in the uk its only prescribed for epilepsy, yet in the us people fucking love it.
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