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☮ Social ☮ The PD Cosmic Space-Train: SOCIAL UMPH in Full Spectrum

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swilow said:
Using stimulants for concentration is lke usng opiates for depression, n my humble opnion....:\
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There are probably better ways, but it makes things a little easier.

I really can't see myself doing this every day, and i see the at least small potential for this stuff getting out of hand which is enough to kind of turn me away from it.

I have one more final to study for, english is not hard at all so no amphetamine will be eaten....

The thing that separates concentration and depression is that you don't always need to concentrate, but unless your just kind of reacting to a bad situation by taking opiates instead of taking opiates to fight chronic depression your going to feel shitty all the time. I was depressed enough for about 4 years for my parents to think i needed to talk to an adolescent psychologist. I have been there, you want it to end and it just doesn't happen. Its always there, every waking moment, your life feels so shitty. It makes sense a lot of people turn to drugs because of that.

I am functional enough to go about my daily life and nothing terrible will likely happen, although i did kind total a car due to zoning out for a bit a while back.... I was sober at the time.

It is kind of nice that drugs exist that are not incredibly addicting and not utterly terrible on your health that you can use to increase your attention span for a few hours....
 
I've personally never found any stimulant I've tried (including MDMA, though that is the limit of my empathogen stimulants) to be addictive at all. I used to take amphetamines for my ADD and I became interested in its recreational effects. I abused them for a couple of time a month max, though the late spring, and summer I did get to the point that my tolerance was pushing my doses above 100mg, sometimes up to 160mg at a time. However I never felt like I wasn't in control or could stop, which I eventually did after a few months of abuse. With coke I loved just picking up a gram and just enjoying 2 nights of fun then I would stop and never thinking about coke again.

Stimulants juts don't appeal to me. Opiates on the other hand.... (I avoid problems with opiates by not going out and looking for them).
 
Cloudy said:
I've personally never found any stimulant I've tried (including MDMA, though that is the limit of my empathogen stimulants) to be addictive at all. I used to take amphetamines for my ADD and I became interested in its recreational effects. I abused them for a couple of time a month max, though the late spring, and summer I did get to the point that my tolerance was pushing my doses above 100mg, sometimes up to 160mg at a time. However I never felt like I wasn't in control or could stop, which I eventually did after a few months of abuse. With coke I loved just picking up a gram and just enjoying 2 nights of fun then I would stop and never thinking about coke again.

Stimulants juts don't appeal to me. Opiates on the other hand.... (I avoid problems with opiates by not going out and looking for them).
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This. MDMA got to be a weekend thing but i don't struggle to cut back to what i am doing now, once every month or two....

I haven't done any serious opiates for a while, i am good with knowing my body and brain, and whenever i touch opiates, i get that mild craving that makes it seem like a good idea to do more but i have the forethought to know that the little craving telling you to eat more will only get worse.

Adderal, im not really worried about turning into an addiction. I have done things that felt better than this, and are by all means more addictive without it being a problem. It doesn't have the urge to really want to do it constantly, but in the end that is what kind of gets more doing more of something so i know that i have to kind of watch it with this one.
 
Hehe. think about; using any drug for any psychological ailment is a dead end that only makes it worse.

Whether you have depression (cures being Amps, Opies, Benzos), anxiety (Opies, Benzos), or concentration problems (Amps), it's all just a dead end that makes you feel worse than when you started taking whatever it was that "fixed" it.

We justify it by saying it's only for sporadic use when you need it, but then the tendency is to dip in more frequently when you feel crappy.

I have a lab christmas get-together tomorrow night and I'm thinking of taking 0.25mg of xanax. Eh, it makes me much more socially functional. The thing is I don't want to use it often. The last 2 days have been really shitty. At any given time for the last while I was either on Phenibut, Kava, or Benzos. I think what got me is that even when I was just chilling out at home I would dose up.

From now on I'm only going to use them for social scenarios I know I'll be anxious for.

I'm feeling much better now. Things really came around in the last few hours. :)
 
jamaica0535 said:
I haven't done any serious opiates for a while, i am good with knowing my body and brain, and whenever i touch opiates, i get that mild craving that makes it seem like a good idea to do more but i have the forethought to know that the little craving telling you to eat more will only get worse.
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Same with me. Its why i choose just not to touch them at all these days.:)

Adderal, im not really worried about turning into an addiction. I have done things that felt better than this, and are by all means more addictive without it being a problem. It doesn't have the urge to really want to do it constantly, but in the end that is what kind of gets more doing more of something so i know that i have to kind of watch it with this one
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Perhaps you wont fall victim to it, you know yourself netter then we do. But amphetamines at higher doses have some pretty damn euphoric and reinforcing effects that make them addicting to some.

20mg of adderall xr is a pretty small dose IMO.
50-100mg of adderall IR feels as good if not better than some ecstasy pills. Euphoric, empathogenic, and speedy (i enjoy my ecstasy to have a little kick, pure mdma is a bit too dopey IMO)
 
Delsyd said:
20mg of adderall xr is a pretty small dose IMO.
50-100mg of adderall IR feels as good if not better than some ecstasy pills. Euphoric, empathogenic, and speedy (i enjoy my ecstasy to have a little kick, pure mdma is a bit too dopey IMO)
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Like i said, i really have very little urge to abuse this stuff...

Im not a fan of tweeking, i have eaten a couple too many methbomb pills before and hated it.

This nice little level of functional alertness is a very nice boost to studying.

I have an urge to play around with piracetam, and potentially some other nootropics, and see if they actually help.

My problem with school is generally that i have potential, but i just don't pay attention in class or study as hard as i should. I do enough to get by with what i need and feel no more encouragement to do any more than that. But with an actual medicinal dose of adderal in my body, i feel perfectly ok with sitting down and studying for hours...

I do notice the social aspect of it, im a lot more talkative than normal. Me and a buddy smoked, and we just stood around for 3 hours talking about all sorts of things.

In other news, i guess my job really is considering giving me computer privileges. A login id was made for me today, i get a company email and they might let me have a computer to use and as i get trained in more and more things i get to do more and more things. If i get trained how to maintain everything independently, i hope they decide to give me a raise or at least specifically hire me instead of going through a temp agency.
 
Delsyd said:
Most of my life ive lived in cities (Los Angeles and NYC). And the last few years living in the burbs of NJ ive only been 30 min from NYC.
So i also feel like im a city boy at heart.

But i also love being out in nature.

I think Asheville will be the perfect medium of the two.

Where in NC did you move/live. And what did you think of it?
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In a perfect world I'd have an apartment in a downtown section and a house deep in nature with nothing around it. But I could settle to live in the city and visit nature when it's needed.
I stayed in Greenville and it was nice, good college town so there was always something to do. I'd like to visit again maybe some day, I wouldn't ever consider living there again though.
This time around I'm off to NE PA, I won't be TOO far from home or NYC and Philly so I should be able to manage. :)
 
IME, responsible use of d-amp can be very nootropic actually. You just have to take low, responsible doses; combine with piracetam, choline, vitamins, antioxidants, and an all-around healthy lifestyle. Its a very nice occasional pick-me-up. I don't feel the same way about adderall though, IMO mixed amphetamine salts are much dirtier and more toxic than pure d-amp. Fortunately d-amp is easy as pie to get prescribed now as Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine), which you can convert to d-amp with trypsin. Shire spend a whole bunch of money convincing the medical community that vyvanse is completely non-abusable, which I thank them for. :D
 
That's hilarious Roger. Good tidbit of info to know. :)

I've never had the pleasure of clean d-amp before. I'm sure it's quite pleasant.

Well, I'm going to be doing some experimenting soon with my friend who I'll be moving in with. He enjoys uppers sometimes as do I and I need to party more and get more social. Anyways I'm going to be trying Mephedrone and MDPV soon. He really doesn't like psychedelics but I'm 100% sure it's just the learning curve and bad set&settings he's had in the past. I would never trip in the house I'm moving into. Definitely not a good tripping place.

It should be fine for stimulants and empathogens though.
 
Delsyd said:
^why was living there so bad. Or why wouldnt you consider it again/

Too far from a big a city?
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Pretty much, yeah. Too far from anything really. I'm no country boy that's for sure. And it was just farms and farms and farms out there. It was nice to go driving around really fast or doing blaze cruises without having a single thing to worry about. But the whole taste of the place was very bland to me. It's nice, the weather is great, it's cheap to live and it's laid back. But it's not for me.
Though I'd probably consider living in Asheville.
 
Roger&Me said:
IME, responsible use of d-amp can be very nootropic actually. You just have to take low, responsible doses; combine with piracetam, choline, vitamins, antioxidants, and an all-around healthy lifestyle. Its a very nice occasional pick-me-up. I don't feel the same way about adderall though, IMO mixed amphetamine salts are much dirtier and more toxic than pure d-amp. Fortunately d-amp is easy as pie to get prescribed now as Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine), which you can convert to d-amp with trypsin. Shire spend a whole bunch of money convincing the medical community that vyvanse is completely non-abusable, which I thank them for. :D
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i have also heard an acidic solution can cleave the amino off of it....

but yea, trypsin is findable i guess.... you might have to contact some chemical companies....
 
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